Benefits of Retrogression for I-485 Applicants (Article from Murthy Site)

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The link: http://murthy.com/news/n_benret.html

Benefits of Retrogression for I-485 Applicants


Many people are feeling doom and gloom over the delays in the I-485 processing due to retrogression for most employment-based categories. This is particularly so for nationals of India and mainland China since the employment-based third preference (EB3), the employment-based second preference (EB2), and the employment-based first preference (EB1) categories are suffering extreme visa backlogs effective as of October 1, 2005. Their frustration is certainly understandable. At The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, we even have heard of people considering the Canadian, Australian, or European migration options rather than waiting for several years to obtain the U.S. green card.

For the benefit of MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers we have decided to analyze the bright side of retrogression in the case of individuals for whom the I-485 (Application to Adjust Status) has already been filed for the principal and the visa numbers have subsequently retrogressed.

"What?" you ask. "Is there a bright side to retrogression? That just seems impossible, if not ludicrous!" Let us at The Law Office of Sheela Murthy help you see the benefits of retrogression!

Specific Benefits for the I-485 Applicant

First, a person who was able to file the I-485 before September 30, 2005 is very lucky since s/he has enjoyed the luxury of filing the I-485 before the dates retrogressed. Thousands of others are far less fortunate and will not even be able to file the I-485, potentially for many years.

The Law Office of Sheela Murthy proudly filed several hundred cases, including I-140s and I-485s for primary beneficiaries and their families. All of this was accomplished within a two-week period and we received a lot of appreciation from many of our clients for such expeditious filings in the short timeframe. Included in these cases were complex and difficult extraordinary ability EB1 petitions and EB2 national interest waiver (NIW) petitions, filed concurrently with the I-485s, for dozens of our researcher and post doctoral clients. This effort was almost unbelievable, even to us!

EAD and AP Extensions Available Each Year

Second, one who has filed the I-485 has the great advantage of being able to obtain the employment authorization documents (EAD) for him/herself and EADs for all dependants with I-485s pending, to allow the dependants to be able to work at any other job/s. The principal applicant, of course, must continue to work for, or show proof of the intention to work for the green card-sponsoring employer. Retrogression does not change eligibility for the benefit of an EAD, available to I-485 applicants. In addition, the individual does not have to wait several months for a consular visa appointment to apply for the H1B or L-1 visa stamp or a dependent visa stamp. S/He may use the Advance Parole to travel abroad and reenter the United States.

Luxury of Additional Time to Find a Spouse

Third, if one is unmarried, the I-485 applicant is given the luxury of more time to choose a spouse. That spouse can enjoy dependent benefits and obtain permanent resident status based on being married prior to approval of the I-485. This is a huge benefit to those who were intending marriage, but need more time for one reason or another. There is an enormous benefit to marrying prior to the approval of the I-485, rather than after. If the marriage takes place after the I-485 is approved, the case becomes a family case and the spouse can be stuck abroad waiting for several years.

AC21 Portability Allowing Change of Employers

Fourth, under the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act (AC21) such an I-485 adjustment applicant is legally allowed to change employers after the I-140 petition has been approved and after the I-485 has been pending for at least 180 days. The new employment must be considered as being within the same or similar category to that mentioned on the LC/I-140 petition. If the USCIS had approved the I-485 within fewer than 180 days, such an adjustment applicant would legally not be able to take advantage of portability to change employers! We expect that many people will be exploring this option to pursue better career opportunities.

H1B Three-Year Extensions Permissible

Fifth, a person with the Labor Certification and the I-140 petition approval enjoys the added benefit of the ability to obtain three-year H1B extensions only as long as there is retrogression. This represents a huge savings each year for the employer and employee. Instead of having to spend thousands of dollars each year on H1B extensions for the principal and H-4s for all dependents, the entire family is allowed to file and obtain three-year H1B and H-4 extensions.

Immigration Laws Change

Sixth, and finally, immigration laws are always subject to change. These laws, and the regulations interpreting and implementing them change regularly. While this is often frustrating, as it makes planning difficult, it can be a good thing when change is needed. Anyone who has worked with or been subject to immigration laws for any length of time knows that there is constant flux. With this, there is always hope for improvement. Retrogression is not an incurable disease. The many possible cures and treatments are within the control of the U.S. Congress. Those who are interested need to make their voices heard and urge their employers and colleagues to do the same.

So, although retrogression may not appear to be perfect for most people on all levels due to expected delays in finally obtaining the approval of the "green card" or permanent status, it is important to consider and appreciate the positive aspects of retrogression. Such a positive outlook helps to maintain a balanced view on life and makes one appreciate certain distinct advantages primarily available to such "lucky" I-485 applicants!

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Not really positive..

Are you surprised that Murthy.com is trying to phrase retro..."positive"????

It's clear that if every eligible immigrant in the future considers only Canada, Australia etc as their first option, due to challenges in US, the immmigrant lawyers here will have a tough time surviving.

Naturally, they would like to show the "positive" side of the current situation....
 
Agreed ..

GCWaitEB12005 said:
Are you surprised that Murthy.com is trying to phrase retro..."positive"????

It's clear that if every eligible immigrant in the future considers only Canada, Australia etc as their first option, due to challenges in US, the immmigrant lawyers here will have a tough time surviving.

Naturally, they would like to show the "positive" side of the current situation....

Although Murthy's posting is pretty good I am hard pressed to convince myself of all these "POSITIVES". I am a very positive person but one should always have ones feet rooted in reality while being optimistic. She does have her personal interest in this as well.

As GCWaitEB12005 has said, she makes a living of us immigrants and sees this retrogression as a bad omen for her own career.

Now that a month has passed since the dreadful news, I have come to the conclusion that none of us can take anything for granted. We will have to keep a close watch on things and if nothing improves for a year or so then it will be time for a lot of us to pack up and head of somewhere else or get our Plan Bs and Cs into full gear. That is the reality of this sad situation. There is only so much of ones youth and selfrespect that can be sacrificed for this GC. Waiting endlessly would be foolish. Atleast thats what I have decided for myself.

regards,

saras76
 
Benefits of Retrogression - to whom ???

Is it bneficial to exploiters ? It is not my enjoyment to wonder around corridors of exploiting employers and attorneys. It is not to my benefit to loose social security over uncertainity. It will end up benefiting few who make more money out of the GC seeker's uncertainity and who can make millions out of our troubles. I amazed to see this kind of sudden positiveness in some people. I do not know how far AC21 gives you freedom but I know certainly that many of my friends are unsure of their GCs and unsure over RFEs. All these issues are grounds of business to attorneys and exploiting employers.

"Wound of an ox is always loved by Crow to lick". What do you say POJ ?

I disliked teh idea of benefit out of retrogression. I would not have filed for my GC by paying dearly to BCIS and to attorneys to revolve in this retrogression if I could smell this. I have seen 'ROOTS' many times but still I am positive myself only to curse myself to waste my time, age and money here.
 
This is crap

Made me puke reading this insulting and disgusting post by murthy.
It seems she wants to divide us into 2 groups - those who filed 485 and those who didnt and foster stupid jealousy between us.
Retrogression is bad bad bad bad bad. Period. Her piece of s**t is almost like trying to reason that murder is good for society. There is ABSO-F***ING-LUTELY NOTHING GOOD ABOUT RETROGRESSION.
 
POJ apki positiveness ki sarahana karat hu.

Lekin kahi aap toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo positive to nahi ho gaye ho?
 
SHUT UP, MURTHY!!!

To delay GC is only positive for your bloody lawyers!!! By sucking money from AP, EAD...

YOU SHUT UP!!! BASTARD!
 
Make no mistake about retrogression - It is bad !!!

It is bad to GC Seekers. And it is bad to economy and american business to keep or loose wavering Technical workers and highly skilled people. I respect Murthy. She is not only smart but highly intelligent attorney and I always liked her for her achievement and success. But this aticale on positiveness of retrogression is amateurish.

Now this is the time for all EB GC Seekers to unite and recognize with wide eyes to see who are amongst in attorneys who really supporting us in our hard strugle with a heart.

And as a large chunk of suffering LEGAL migrants, Empoyment GC seekers, it is absolutely essential to make all know how bad this retrogression is through media, law makers and american business community. One such hard effort I could see is by a group WWW.ISNAMERICA.ORG. Just visit their web site how frustrated and deparate GC Seekers are now.
 
Its like telling somebody in the Hurrican affected areas!!!
"See you don't have to pay the property tax as you do not have the house any more"
 
reminds me the geico ad

GCseeker: Murthy! Murty!!! I have a poblem. See the USCIS
screwed me and Slapped me with the retrogression.
Murty: Oh yeah!! GCSeeker!! I have a good news!!.
GCSeeker: Good news!! No kidding.. Tell me more...
Murthy: I earned buch of money by filing more cases and continue
to earn more as long as you are under retrogresson, by filing
more and more EADs APs for you
 
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Open request for Murthy

Murthy!!
I know you are our well wisher. Why don't you take up our case and use your good offices and contacts, make USCIS to listen to the vows of the GC seekers.
 
Your people are so mean. Let me ask you one thing. Has Murty cause the retrogression? Please answer me, yes or no? Their law office is a business. A business has to make money, from me, you or whoever needs their services. It is shameless to blame Murty as a blood sucker.

When people falls to a black hole, or drfting aimlessly on the sea or desperately fighting for their life, what do your people to tell them??? I can image your people will tell them there is no way you can crawl out this hole, you will be eaten by the sharks or you will be drained to death by your misfortunate life. Sure, this is all could be true, however, there will be always a POSITIVE side, just like Murty said. Grow up, boys.


There is something called "context" when to speak something that would be solacing to the people and something that would be ticking people off.
You would like the good encourajing words... See in the forum and look for postings by some people like saras, POJ.

Murthy did not cause retrogression, neither you nor me. For that matter one can not blame even USCIS, they are just doing their duty. As for me concerned, I already left it to the fate doing whatever best I can do. Do not try to show the bright side out of a grave situation when everyone knows that there is nothing bright here.

Well.. if Murthy could do anything...I have already posted what she can do.
Murthy!!
I know you are our well wisher. Why don't you take up our case and use your good offices and contacts, make USCIS to listen to the vows of the GC seekers.



As regards to the maturity of mind, If anyone needs to grow up, its you and the one you advocate for.
 
We are not mean,just wanted to let you know we have brain to form opinion

As Chakor said ,context is mportant.We all know the fact let us allow to form opinion.We are not blaming Murthy for retro but may not like some one give false hope or tool to see soething positive in retro.We want GC or idea how long it will take? so that we can plan something.One way u are clearing backlog and implementing pERM ,trying to give GC in 6 months and then coming up with cut off date of Jan 98.USCIS will be glad or may be burst into laughter after reading the murthy article that there mess/sh*t is also have some positive thing.It's 100% true that Lawyer make money out of our delayed GC ,USCIS make money by our late GC.It will be definately positive sign for them.We don't blame her but that article was not required,she could have escaped her.
In that article she suggested (not sure requested or suggested) to ask our employer to have their voice heard.why Ms murthy ? why when its positive to employer.Rather she should have added one more paragraph.
"Good for eEmployr " .Now they can suck more blood from us and hence will love more .
For geting solaciam we have POJ :rolleyes: we don't need murthy.

She should raise this issue thru AILA .we are not expecting + or - outcome but atleast given us message that they are on our side.uSCIS meet with AILA not with my PIMP.

Lastly that article hurts because we are grown up and mature.


xg121960 said:
Your people are so mean. Let me ask you one thing. Has Murty cause the retrogression? Please answer me, yes or no? Their law office is a business. A business has to make money, from me, you or whoever needs their services. It is shameless to blame Murty as a blood sucker.

When people falls to a black hole, or drfting aimlessly on the sea or desperately fighting for their life, what do your people to tell them??? I can image your people will tell them there is no way you can crawl out this hole, you will be eaten by the sharks or you will be drained to death by your misfortunate life. Sure, this is all could be true, however, there will be always a POSITIVE side, just like Murty said. Grow up, boys.
 
atleast this is a free advise from Murthy!!

This is like telling people..'if you look at the brighter side of Katrina'!! ..Dear Murthy...there is nothing like a brighter side of a disaster or retrogression!!
 
To xg121960

Hey look man (or woman or transvestite or whatever you are),

murthy didnt create retrogression and neither did she create cancer.

so by your logic she should advocate cancer right ????
 
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Unfortunately, the previous post in this thread was my first. Like someone said earlier, I felt like throwing up too.

Been a lurker for a long time. This article by Murthy just did it for me. What a puke. I really appreciated all the guys posting here esp POJ, Saras and many more(Most of them alreay got their GC's). I think POJ is extremely optimistic and Saras is negative (Sorry for making it look like I am being judgemental). My guess is that reality is somewhere in the middle. Lets just hope for the best.

I will create my signature later. To you give you heads up.

EB2. PD 2004 FEB(I think)
I-485 RD 10/13/2004.
Dependants Name Check completed. Mine's stuck :)
 
I am not negative ...

spulla said:
Unfortunately, the previous post in this thread was my first. Like someone said earlier, I felt like throwing up too.

Been a lurker for a long time. This article by Murthy just did it for me. What a puke. I really appreciated all the guys posting here esp POJ, Saras and many more(Most of them alreay got their GC's). I think POJ is extremely optimistic and Saras is negative (Sorry for making it look like I am being judgemental). My guess is that reality is somewhere in the middle. Lets just hope for the best.

I will create my signature later. To you give you heads up.

EB2. PD 2004 FEB(I think)
I-485 RD 10/13/2004.
Dependants Name Check completed. Mine's stuck :)

spulla,

My postings may seem negative but I like to think of them as realistic. I try to be as positive as I can but I feel that it will be irresponsible of me to post whatever people want to hear rather than what reality is. My mantra is simple .. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.

Brij is right. Lets stop posting in this thread. There is no point. Murthy was trying to make things better because even she realizes that as things stand right now its pretty grim for all of us. Its best to accept that and look for ways to get out of it. There is no point in trying to find positives when that time can be used to think of ways to get us out of this mess.

regards,

saras
 
It took 3 Yrs (after filing I-485) to get my approval..with 3 EAD's and 3 AP's .
Ooooooooph ,its very frustrating to wait for the GC after filing I-485...and I can imagine how frustrating it would be if anyone is not able to file I-485 for number of years just because of "Retrogession".
Obviously as rightly said by other folks here,"Retrogession" will overpwer Employers with explotation and fill the coffers of Law firms with additional fees for Labor f/u's,EAD and AP renewals....and all above this great country (I would say,its still known for getting the brightest people and technology) will loose the best brainos from all over the world seeking GC in US,migrate to other countries.
I think that Retrogession should have their "numbers" reduced to a fairly good level in the next 3-6 months, if not, this country is on the path of loosing a lot of talented people.Unless there are some positive /possible encouraging announcements of reduction numbers for "Retrogession" by USCIS themselves, such "positive" portraying articles gives false hopes to the immigration community.
 
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