Back from a home visit

I am pretty sure that half of the asylees in this forum have thought about returning to their home countries as soon they get GC. Com on people, it doesn't matter how good the conditions in your country could be, is the fact that u already crossed the line between disorder and the land of the tirans to the land of the liberty, law and justice.

If asylees think that they can travel to their home countries as soon getting gc because conditions in their countries have changed....u will help more giving back your GC to the CIS and leave that window for somebody else that is really persecuted in his country and it doesn't want to go back again.
Tirans, dictators, corruption and real persecution does not dissapear in 1, 2, 5 years it takes many years to go away, generations. There's no way that a country can improve at the time u get your GC. We have to be realistic here, nothing in life is easy. We can not have the perfect work, the perfect woman, the perfect life, the chance to live even in your own home country at the same with all the ocnfort u always wished. Life is not perfect. We have to do sacrificies and that's one... let go our home countries. If u become later in years a citizen and conditions are better go back and visit your home country but for tourism not like a really need.

Cheers!!!
 
Arizona_Poet said:
I am pretty sure that half of the asylees in this forum have thought about returning to their home countries as soon they get GC. Com on people, it doesn't matter how good the conditions in your country could be, is the fact that u already crossed the line between disorder and the land of the tirans to the land of the liberty, law and justice.

If asylees think that they can travel to their home countries as soon getting gc because conditions in their countries have changed....u will help more giving back your GC to the CIS and leave that window for somebody else that is really persecuted in his country and it doesn't want to go back again.
Tirans, dictators, corruption and real persecution does not dissapear in 1, 2, 5 years it takes many years to go away, generations. There's no way that a country can improve at the time u get your GC. We have to be realistic here, nothing in life is easy. We can not have the perfect work, the perfect woman, the perfect life, the chance to live even in your own home country at the same with all the ocnfort u always wished. Life is not perfect. We have to do sacrificies and that's one... let go our home countries. If u become later in years a citizen and conditions are better go back and visit your home country but for tourism not like a really need.

Cheers!!!
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well said
 
Arizona_Poet said:
I am pretty sure that half of the asylees in this forum have thought about returning to their home countries as soon they get GC. Com on people, it doesn't matter how good the conditions in your country could be, is the fact that u already crossed the line between disorder and the land of the tirans to the land of the liberty, law and justice.

If asylees think that they can travel to their home countries as soon getting gc because conditions in their countries have changed....u will help more giving back your GC to the CIS and leave that window for somebody else that is really persecuted in his country and it doesn't want to go back again.
Tirans, dictators, corruption and real persecution does not dissapear in 1, 2, 5 years it takes many years to go away, generations. There's no way that a country can improve at the time u get your GC. We have to be realistic here, nothing in life is easy. We can not have the perfect work, the perfect woman, the perfect life, the chance to live even in your own home country at the same with all the ocnfort u always wished. Life is not perfect. We have to do sacrificies and that's one... let go our home countries. If u become later in years a citizen and conditions are better go back and visit your home country but for tourism not like a really need.

Cheers!!!
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That's the best response to a "never ending discussion :( " AGREE 100%
 
Arizona_Poet said:
If u become later in years a citizen and conditions are better go back and visit your home country but for tourism not like a really need.

Cheers!!!
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What difference would it make if you are a citizen or not. Are you trying to outsmart them?
 
greencarder said:
What difference would it make if you are a citizen or not. Are you trying to outsmart them?
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Well it makes a big difference where I come from to be a US citizen. The frigging government I escaped from would not even think about messing up with me in the first place had I been a US citizen...
 
greencarder said:
I used my national passport.
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I got a question, you visited your home country after 13 years as you mentioned in your very first post and you used your National Passport, now my question is did you ever renew your NP after you applied for asylum or it is valid for quite long time.
Thanks.
 
samoel said:
Well it makes a big difference where I come from to be a US citizen. The frigging government I escaped from would not even think about messing up with me in the first place had I been a US citizen...
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Actually it would make it more dangerous to you being an American since terrorists will always take Americans as hostages
 
Aniket19 said:
I got a question, you visited your home country after 13 years as you mentioned in your very first post and you used your National Passport, now my question is did you ever renew your NP after you applied for asylum or it is valid for quite long time.
Thanks.
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I renewed it
 
greencarder said:
Actually it would make it more dangerous to you being an American since terrorists will always take Americans as hostages
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I was talking about repressive governments that not necessarily have connections with Islamic terrorist or are in Muslim countries....
 
This does not make any sense to me. You get your green card and you go back to your native country using NP and that makes USCIS thing you lied and cheated. You become a USC and its ok to go? Haven't you heard stories of Narutalized USC's who have been stripped off their citizenships and deported? If they find anything in your citizenship that was fradulant then you can kiss it goodbye.
If you cannot go back to your native country after obtaining GC then in my opinion you can never go back. Being a USC does not make you eligible to visit the country you claimed asylum from.
I can go back to my native country if I want and come back because I no longer feel endangered, my mother applied for asylum after my father was assasinated. My mother had almos died also but it was a miracle that she survived. When she filed for asylum I was her dependent and now after 11 years I am quite grown up, government has changed. Just for the record I wont go back because I dont give a damn about that country. Although I will need to someday because we have some land a bank accounts there. However I won't jeopardize my status until I become a USC; come on guys USCIS know that you will have to eventually go and visit your native country. I personally know of people who have done that after they got their greencards and are now they are USC. I don't know if their cases were fraud but what I know is that me and my family have suffered a great loss. I personally dont know of any asylee who have lost their loved ones, nore that I want to see anyone go through that. No offence to anyone but personally I feel that most of asylees from my native country are fakes.
So what I am trying to say is that if I go back to my native country USCIS cannot say that my mother lied and cheated because our case was legitimate.
I would like to share an interesting story with you. A few years ago I was driving back from Canada while I still was an asylee. I ran into some woman there who looked at my travel doc and goes, I dont think that people from your country shold be eligible to get asylum, that pissed me off so much. Then she tried to pull another one on me by saying that the picture did mot match my face. Although she let me go through without further peoblems but til this day it pisses me off just because some B I T C H sitting at a booth making 30k a year yapps about something that she does not have a clue about. My experience, if you run into a woman who is not white or either a man or a woman who is a naturalized USC then they will try to give you trouble; that pisses me off the most.
 
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copper1 said:
My experience, if you run into a woman who is not white or either a man or a woman who is a naturalized USC then they will try to give you trouble; that pisses me off the most.
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And you want us to take you seriously?
 
greencarder said:
I just came back from a home visit last Thursday and wanted to share with you my experiences. First, I was very hesitant to go back home after the nerve wrecking posts that have been written in this forum. I recall people warning about home visits and making all sorts of claims about INS harsh retributions. I had doubts about these claims since no one talked about their personal experiences regarding this issue. Rather, they said that they know someone or a friend who was bothered by the INS for going back home. They then failed to update us about the fate of their friends. The funny thing is that one person said that his friend will be deported after he applied for citizenship. People can sometimes have fertile imaginations and are good at making stories you know. When I consulted my lawyer he advised me not to listen to "paranoid asylees." His rationale was that the INS can only claim that fraud has been committed in the original political asylum applications. For them to prove such outrageous claim, they have to show evidence of such fraud. The problem is that most asylees get their green cards after long years and many of them do not visit home unless they already receive their green cards. It is a pretty good chance that things got better after these years and that can be a good excuse to refute the fraud claim. Of course, if an asylee visits home before getting a green card it is a totally different story and the claim of fraud can be a stronger one in this case. Anyway, when I cam back home, I went through the citizens/permanent residents line and the officer was very nice to me. He asked me how long I stayed in my home country and I told him I stayed there for 2 months. He then said welcome back. If you want to visit your home country do so provided that it is safe and things have changed. This was my first time in 13 years to go back home and boy did it feel so good. I always yearned to do that but I was worried about my safety. Things really got better recently in my country thanks to President Bush who scared my country's president and forced him to make reforms and I did not want to wait for a second and made the decision to go. Of course, the country is not perfectly safe, but is far better than before. I am actually thinking of going back forever but I have to think deeply about my decision given the fact that I developed a strong bond with the US. So, if you believe that things got better in your country and if you have not visited it for very long years, do so. I have a request for asylees who scare other asylees. I understand that you have to be suspicious of everything in life. After all, you endured years of discrimination and prejudice before coming here. However, be easy on your fellow asylees and do not make outrageous claims unless you can back them up!
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Greencarder:

I believe you visited your home country because circumstances in your country have been changed, as you stated above "visit your home country do so provided that it is safe and things have changed." I don't believe anyone in this forum argued that an asylee can't visit his/her country if circumstances have changed. I would assume you wouldn't have visited your country if the changes you mentioned did not happen. With a GC in hand and fundamantal political changes in one's country, I don't see any reason why an asylee couldn't visit his/her country.
 
Oh, well, this is always the hottest topic....

Give my cousin's case as example.
the situation changed for our country, but.... no one questioned her when she came back, but before GC, she was interviewed for that. she has very good reason DOCUMENTED with even one piece from State Department. She was approved 2 days after interview. But her case was delayed for almost two years with ND 08/99. If you don't mind getting I-485 & N-400 delayed, then....

the capability of tracking aliens is getting impressively better after 9-11, noted by my attorney.
 
dardan said:
I agree, those who lie and cheat to obtain immigration benefits should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It's the law abiding residents that should not suffer from the paranoia caused by the rumors.

Just an example, while I was waiting on line for my BIO, I had a conversation with an asylee from Rwanda. He was telling me that he was afraid to apply for travel document (he has been in the U.S. for 15 years) because he did not want to jeopardize his asylee status. This is the paranoia I am talking about.

Of course, traveling is a personal decision. Again, my opinion is that unless you have skeletons in your closet, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
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That's funny. I know one guy from Rwanda and he told me that his friends asylees travel back home through the neighbor country every summer during vacations.
 
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