Anyone with a lawsuit against USCIS or thinking about a lawsuit (Merged)

buggin said:
Hi friends,

I've been thinking a lot about the next step I should take in my lawsuit. I was getting very frustrated with the US Atty's office and the judge. The whole reason for my lawsuit was to put an end to my waiting, and now they keep telling me that I need to wait for the judge to sign the dismissal order. I decided to fight with the system and make everybody do their job. So, I decided on Monday to start calling the US Atty, the judge's clerk and do whatever it takes to get things moving.

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! Can you believe it? I couldn't. I went on PACER and checked if the dismissal order had been filed. Well, it wasn't. So, my guess is that the USCIS didn't wait till the dismissal of my case and went ahead and approved my naturalization. Wow!!! I don't know what to say. I guess there are still people doing work there.

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D

CONGRATULATIONS :)

Great job, we're proud of you, Welcome to United States of America as an...AMERICAN CITIZEN
:cool:
 
Uncertain

AL11 said:
Thanks Cutie for your reply,
which # did you use to call the FBI, is the # for the fingerprints in WV or FBI headquarters in DC.
it looks like you are recommending that i go for FP as soon as possible and not wait until the specified date. even though the date is 5 weeks before the deadline?
what I don't understand, why do they need a second FP to process the case?

Hello there,

You're wellcome, Unforturnately I have missplace the # however I have gave to mohamedmohamed ask him, . Also if you search in this thread you'll find it. As i mention I didn't wait and have it done right away and yes I do recommended that, it's your choise though. One thing that different between your and mine was that you have mentioned your appt. was 5 weeks before the deadline versus three days after the deadline for me. If you concern about the date of appointment, I don't know where you are but the center where I have my FP done as long as you have an appointment they really don't care the date. I have my done before the appt. date for several time without trubles.

To why did they want the 2nd FP I really don't know!!!

Best regards,
~C
 
AL11,

I think the # for FBI fingerprint is: 304-625-5590. Have your A # in hand before you call this number. Because you had last FP on FP 3/1/05 which expired in June 2006 (in 15 months), they need your 2nd FP before they can approve your case. Overall, it's a good indicator. I would also suggest you try an earlier FP as long as the ASC doesn't mind it. I think they are going to approve your case soon after your 2nd FP.

bobbyren

P.S. many many congratulations, Buggin.


AL11 said:
Thanks Cutie for your reply,
which # did you use to call the FBI, is the # for the fingerprints in WV or FBI headquarters in DC.
 
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Wow, congratulations!!! I'm so glad for you. I just wish mine will come soon :)

buggin said:
Hi friends,

I've been thinking a lot about the next step I should take in my lawsuit. I was getting very frustrated with the US Atty's office and the judge. The whole reason for my lawsuit was to put an end to my waiting, and now they keep telling me that I need to wait for the judge to sign the dismissal order. I decided to fight with the system and make everybody do their job. So, I decided on Monday to start calling the US Atty, the judge's clerk and do whatever it takes to get things moving.

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! Can you believe it? I couldn't. I went on PACER and checked if the dismissal order had been filed. Well, it wasn't. So, my guess is that the USCIS didn't wait till the dismissal of my case and went ahead and approved my naturalization. Wow!!! I don't know what to say. I guess there are still people doing work there.

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D
 
buggin said:
Hi friends,

I've been thinking a lot about the next step I should take in my lawsuit. I was getting very frustrated with the US Atty's office and the judge. The whole reason for my lawsuit was to put an end to my waiting, and now they keep telling me that I need to wait for the judge to sign the dismissal order. I decided to fight with the system and make everybody do their job. So, I decided on Monday to start calling the US Atty, the judge's clerk and do whatever it takes to get things moving.

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! Can you believe it? I couldn't. I went on PACER and checked if the dismissal order had been filed. Well, it wasn't. So, my guess is that the USCIS didn't wait till the dismissal of my case and went ahead and approved my naturalization. Wow!!! I don't know what to say. I guess there are still people doing work there.

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D

Finaly!!!!
Buggin, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :)
 
Congradulations, Buggin!!!
YOu have done it!
buggin said:
Hi friends,

I've been thinking a lot about the next step I should take in my lawsuit. I was getting very frustrated with the US Atty's office and the judge. The whole reason for my lawsuit was to put an end to my waiting, and now they keep telling me that I need to wait for the judge to sign the dismissal order. I decided to fight with the system and make everybody do their job. So, I decided on Monday to start calling the US Atty, the judge's clerk and do whatever it takes to get things moving.

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! Can you believe it? I couldn't. I went on PACER and checked if the dismissal order had been filed. Well, it wasn't. So, my guess is that the USCIS didn't wait till the dismissal of my case and went ahead and approved my naturalization. Wow!!! I don't know what to say. I guess there are still people doing work there.

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D
 
Thank you cuties and bobbyren

cuties said:
Hello there,

You're wellcome, Unforturnately I have missplace the # however I have gave to mohamedmohamed ask him, . Also if you search in this thread you'll find it. As i mention I didn't wait and have it done right away and yes I do recommended that, it's your choise though. One thing that different between your and mine was that you have mentioned your appt. was 5 weeks before the deadline versus three days after the deadline for me. If you concern about the date of appointment, I don't know where you are but the center where I have my FP done as long as you have an appointment they really don't care the date. I have my done before the appt. date for several time without trubles.

To why did they want the 2nd FP I really don't know!!!

Best regards,


~C



Thanks for your repy, I wil try to make it to USCIS for a 2ed FP soon. and I really hope this is a good sign. I will keep you guys posted
 
Just a reminder

AL11 said:
Thanks for your repy, I wil try to make it to USCIS for a 2ed FP soon. and I really hope this is a good sign. I will keep you guys posted


Hi AL11,

Just a small reminding, you need to go the INS application support center not the USCIS's office to get the FP the address suppose to be on the notice.

You will get your case approve in a very short time, congratulation in advance and enjoy it.

~C
 
Congratulations!

buggin said:
Hi friends,

.....

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! ...

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D
 
Congratulations

buggin said:
Hi friends,

I've been thinking a lot about the next step I should take in my lawsuit. I was getting very frustrated with the US Atty's office and the judge. The whole reason for my lawsuit was to put an end to my waiting, and now they keep telling me that I need to wait for the judge to sign the dismissal order. I decided to fight with the system and make everybody do their job. So, I decided on Monday to start calling the US Atty, the judge's clerk and do whatever it takes to get things moving.

Well, today I got an oath cermony notification from the USCIS in the mail! Can you believe it? I couldn't. I went on PACER and checked if the dismissal order had been filed. Well, it wasn't. So, my guess is that the USCIS didn't wait till the dismissal of my case and went ahead and approved my naturalization. Wow!!! I don't know what to say. I guess there are still people doing work there.

All in all, I am happy. My oath ceremony is scheduled for July 25, 2006. I hope nothing else is going to happen till then.

Thank you, friends, for being there for me. :D


CONGRATULATIONS :)
 
When is it considered teh right time?

Guys,
I am Arab, I am a law abiding person, I have a clean record, I am a professional, but, it really doesn't matter, very very few Arabs got the citizenship without a lawsuit, I knew my citizenship will be put on hold before I even applied. I decided to sue the government, my interview was in April, so, I can sue in August, but, I called several attorneys, ALL of them, not even most, wanted me to wait anytime between 7 months to two years (after teh interview), they say that filing too early agravates the judge, what will happen if the judge got agravated? will he toss me to another planet for example? well, I have been agravated with the INS, and then the CIS for the last ten years I AM ACTING WITHIN THE LAW.
Guys, what do you think? I can't find a lawyer who agrees to file for me early, is it wise to file pro se exactly on the 120th day??? I looked at all your posted cases, nobody has really filed exactly 4 months after the interview, please advice.
 
hayyyoot said:
Guys,
I am Arab, I am a law abiding person, I have a clean record, I am a professional, but, it really doesn't matter, very very few Arabs got the citizenship without a lawsuit, I knew my citizenship will be put on hold before I even applied. I decided to sue the government, my interview was in April, so, I can sue in August, but, I called several attorneys, ALL of them, not even most, wanted me to wait anytime between 7 months to two years (after teh interview), they say that filing too early agravates the judge, what will happen if the judge got agravated? will he toss me to another planet for example? well, I have been agravated with the INS, and then the CIS for the last ten years I AM ACTING WITHIN THE LAW.
Guys, what do you think? I can't find a lawyer who agrees to file for me early, is it wise to file pro se exactly on the 120th day??? I looked at all your posted cases, nobody has really filed exactly 4 months after the interview, please advice.

Most of the "immigration lawyers" never heard of Petition for Hearing under 1447(b)...a few know about Writ of Mandamus.

Probably the ones you spoke with, were thinking on Writ of Mandamus.

Aggravate the Judge :D If the law says 120 days, what for s/he should be aggravated :confused: Those lawyers are idiots, don't bother to talk to them anymore.

Read this thread, and you can sue USCIS after 120 days Pro Se (by yourself, without a lawyer)

P.S. And to answer to your question: not necessarily 120 days, sue them after 125-130 days...5-10 more days won't make a difference for you...after 10 years of waiting.
 
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Name of Server

Hi guys,

I am going to file the certificate of service to the court soon, but have a quick question. In the Form "Return of Service" the clerk sent to me, can I put my name in the "Name of Server" and sign it at "Signature of server", because I mailed the summons+complaint to the defendant? I know according to the rules, I, as a part of this lawsuit, can not be the actual server who delivered the package. I am wondering how you guys filled this Form -- "Return of Service". Or should I just disregard this Form and file the return receipts to the court?

I appreciate if you can give me some answers.

bobbyren
 
hi

hayyyoot said:
Guys,
I am Arab, I am a law abiding person, I have a clean record, I am a professional, but, it really doesn't matter, very very few Arabs got the citizenship without a lawsuit, I knew my citizenship will be put on hold before I even applied. I decided to sue the government, my interview was in April, so, I can sue in August, but, I called several attorneys, ALL of them, not even most, wanted me to wait anytime between 7 months to two years (after teh interview), they say that filing too early agravates the judge, what will happen if the judge got agravated? will he toss me to another planet for example? well, I have been agravated with the INS, and then the CIS for the last ten years I AM ACTING WITHIN THE LAW.
Guys, what do you think? I can't find a lawyer who agrees to file for me early, is it wise to file pro se exactly on the 120th day??? I looked at all your posted cases, nobody has really filed exactly 4 months after the interview, please advice.

Hello Hay,
I am the same as you are, see I did not wait I just took them to court. Do it and let the court show them and teach them the law. you have the right to file your lewisite anytime you want as long as after 120 days. Don’t waist time …. Get the pro see package from your court and start reading it. PM me anytime if you need help ….

Wish you and everyone here the best….
 
when would I get a reply for US attorney?

hi,

I filed and served the Mandamus suit on 05/24 ( the date when the complaints were received by defedents) when will I receive a response for US attorney/USCIS?

If they ask for extension, should I allow it? The trick part is that my wife is out of country now and won't be available for new FP if they ask.

any suggestions? Thank you

Daniel
 
hayyyoot said:
Guys,
I am Arab, I am a law abiding person, I have a clean record, I am a professional, but, it really doesn't matter...

You're right it doesn't matter. I'm Ukrainian and got stack too. They know that we all are clean (except for very few) after search in Universal Index.
After that they select cases for manual check and there's were prejudice comes. I guess the pattern is Gender->Country->Name. In majority family cases husband got stack and wife went through. By statistic man violate the law more often then woman. Country matters if it shares criminal information or not and if it is USA friendly. Name is obvious stopper since if you qualified by first two criteria and have name "Wong" for example with millions of them around the world - oops, Long live to your case!

hayyyoot said:
I called several attorneys...

Don't waste your time with lawyers. They represent only their wallet. I can say it looking to my co-worker's divorce and car accident that my wife had in a past (she was severely hit by hit'n'run driver that got caught day later)

1447b is a Do-It-Yourself project if you want to spare $350 for good purpose.

Good luck!
 
I was browsing WOM filing in Southern District of New York. (In SDNY, you can read cases for free. :D )

Out of the 30 plus cases I looked at, all the cases 6 months old were "dismissed voluntarily". Less-than-6-month cases are not that lucky. Half are dismissed, half are still pending.

There are several cases that the FBI needs USCIS' response before completing the name check, but USCIS failed to respond for almost 2 months despite FBI signaled as "highest priority". USDA asked for extension and now the Judge needs him to appear in court.

Shit like this may happen....
 
Thank you, friends

Thank you all for warm congratulations. :)
I'll let you know about my oath ceremony experience.
And I wish you all good luck with your cases.
 
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