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GOP Congressman Renews Push for Immigration Curbs
By Mary Curtius
Times Staff Writer

January 27, 2005

WASHINGTON — In a move that could put him at odds with President Bush, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee introduced legislation Wednesday that would effectively deny driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants, tighten requirements for political asylum and complete the border fence between California and Mexico.

Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) said the measures would help secure the nation from attacks like those carried out by Al Qaeda on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. He unveiled his legislation shortly after Bush, at a White House news conference, reaffirmed that immigration reform was one of his legislative priorities this year.

Bush has said that he intends to work for passage of a guest-worker program that would allow millions of undocumented workers to apply for temporary legal status. Sensenbrenner, however, is focusing on law enforcement. He said that Congress may be too busy with the president's other ambitious legislative goals to tackle comprehensive immigration reform this year.

"We have to deal with the immigration issue," Sensenbrenner said at a news conference Wednesday. When this would occur, however, "is difficult for me to answer. If you look at what is on the plate of the Judiciary Committee, we are going to be plenty busy with other priorities, a lot of which are the priorities of the White House."

At the White House, the president said Wednesday it should be possible to recognize that "people are coming to our country to do jobs that Americans won't do," and, at the same time, protect the borders. But, he said, any revision of immigration law should "make sure that we don't disadvantage those who have stood in line for years to become a legal citizen."

"I'm looking forward to working with people of both parties on this issue," Bush said.

The different emphases by the president and the chairman of one of the House's most powerful committees reflect divisions among Republicans about how to fix the nation's immigration system. The White House has taken no public position on Sensenbrenner's legislation, but when he included its provisions in the House's version of the bill overhauling U.S. intelligence last year, Bush urged him to drop them to win the bill's passage by the Senate.

Sensenbrenner indicated Wednesday that his priorities may differ from those of the president, and that Congress may not have time to deal with immigration reform this year.

With an estimated 8 million to 12 million immigrants living in the United States illegally, Republicans are split between those who believe that reform must include a plan to give many of them at least temporary — and perhaps permanent — legal status and those who oppose any legalization and advocate restricting legal immigration.

Some Republicans have said that they did not speak out against the president's guest-worker program before the November elections out of loyalty to him; but they now feel free to oppose a program that their constituents view as amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Sensenbrenner's bill drew immediate criticism from immigrant rights advocates, who said that its provisions were anti-immigrant.

"None of the provisions that are in the bill will make us safer," said Kevin Appleby, director of migration and refugee policy for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Denying licenses to undocumented immigrants will "make our roads less safe," Appleby said, because many will drive without a license or insurance.

Appleby said that tightening asylum criteria by requiring a person to prove that they were persecuted in their home country and allowing immigration judges to reject an application if it was determined that the applicant was not credible "could lead to the rejection of valid claims."

Thousands of such claims — often made by people fleeing political, religious or ethnic persecution — are accepted each year by U.S. immigration officials.

Sensenbrenner's approach "is sort of a shotgun approach … which will hurt a lot of innocent people and not necessarily protect us from the threat of terrorism," Appleby said.

The provisions Sensenbrenner introduced Wednesday passed the House last year as part of the chamber's version of intelligence reform.

The Senate, however, balked at including what Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), author of the Senate intelligence reform bill, said were measures so controversial that they threatened to torpedo the legislation in the Senate. Sensenbrenner refused to back down. At one point, it appeared that his insistence on including the provisions would kill the entire bill.

Ultimately, the White House secured enough support from House Republicans to ensure the bill's passage, even without Sensenbrenner. But the House leadership promised the chairman it would attach the excised provisions to the first piece of legislation this session that both chambers were expected to pass.

Sensenbrenner expects that after the House votes on his legislation, it will be attached to a larger bill that can more easily pass the House and the Senate. That may be the $80 billion in emergency funds the White House intends to ask Congress to authorize next month for war costs in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sensenbrenner said he already had the support of 115 House members for his bill, but its fate in the Senate remained uncertain.
 
That is really bad if it passes. We will have to renew the darn driver's license EVERY YEAR.
 
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No u don't. VA has the "Legal Presence" law where you have to show that you are legally present in the u.s to get a license..FOr asylees it makes no difference..! This law is bad for people who the immigration doesn't know about..illegals
 
wantmygcnow said:
No u don't. VA has the "Legal Presence" law where you have to show that you are legally present in the u.s to get a license..FOr asylees it makes no difference..! This law is bad for people who the immigration doesn't know about..illegals



Well, read the actual bill. As currently written this bill would require asylees and refugees to be issued only one year licenses. It would preempt all state laws on this issue.
 
Gilbert said:
Well, read the actual bill. As currently written this bill would require asylees and refugees to be issued only one year licenses. It would preempt all state laws on this issue.


Can somebody post a link to the actual bill? Thanks
 
Gilbert said:
Well, read the actual bill. As currently written this bill would require asylees and refugees to be issued only one year licenses. It would preempt all state laws on this issue.
Gilbert, we are lucky we got our green cards before this crap started huh. However, this is getting ugly and vicious. The scum republicans won’t rest until they stop immigration to this country. They take the excuse of security to punish every immigrant in this country. The miscreants who attacked us were all international students who were given visas because the majority of them came from oil-rich countries. Most immigrants come from countries that are either extremely poor or extremely dictatorial. What do you do when reasons dies in this country?
 
wantmygcnow said:
No u don't. VA has the "Legal Presence" law where you have to show that you are legally present in the u.s to get a license..FOr asylees it makes no difference..! This law is bad for people who the immigration doesn't know about..illegals

Did you renew your VA license after January 1, 2004? If you did, was it a five year renewal?
 
Hi Everyone.

I got question regarding the driver licences for Asylee to be one year, about if someone ready renew is license a it got 6 years or 10 years it depend to each State.
Thank-you
 
douls said:
Hi Everyone.

I got question regarding the driver licences for Asylee to be one year, about if someone ready renew is license a it got 6 years or 10 years it depend to each State.
Thank-you

If the law is passed, I believe all states will follow it. They can change the 6 or 10 year's license to one year if they want.
 
Jesus!Why???Every year!!!It's horrible...And they are planing to give many of illigals at least temporary — and perhaps permanent — legal status.And just imagine if they do that and still leave asylees backlog.I wouldn't be surprised!
 
Heh..I just realized how stupid the whole thing is. I wonder, how they are going to indicate one's terrorist intent, when testing his driving skills? Probably terrorists drive in different way than others. And what about other immigrants?Only asylees can be terrorists? :confused: Idiots!!!! :mad:
 
It just to keep track of immigrants..the KGB..I mean the DHS wants to control whatever you do...I wouldn't be surprised if they ran every asylee's name through the terrorist watch lists every time u renew your license..
 
wantmygcnow said:
It just to keep track of immigrants..the KGB..I mean the DHS wants to control whatever you do...I wouldn't be surprised if they ran every asylee's name through the terrorist watch lists every time u renew your license..

I still don't get it. It's pretty much the same if they make all of us come every year to a particular place and say: "Hi, guys! That's me again.I am still in this country and I can drive well." How they gonna prevent terrorist attacks by that?And I don't quite understand how they gonna control us by that either. :confused:
 
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Some states been doing this for couple of years. Also is a matter of showing proper docs, last year I went for renewal at the DMV in Florida with my I485 receipt notice and I got DL for a year this year (last week) showed them my I94 on the RTD and I got it for 5 years.
What I read on the article says nothing about one year DL for asylees. I googled around but nothing comes up, can somebody post a link to the bill?
 
some good news guys

Only a last-minute personal intervention by President Bush deleted the onerous drivers licenses restrictions from the 9/11 intelligence reform law that Congress passed last December. The sponsors vowed then to reintroduce the bill this year and they just did that. But after reading the two bills side by side, I noticed a small (but very significant for asylees) change. To the best of my understanding, the current bill would not impact asylees if passed (last year's would have).


This is the current version (section 202(c) of HR 418, REAL ID ACT of 2005):

(2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS-

(A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph.

(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

(i) is a citizen of the United States;

(ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

(iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

(iv) has an approved application for asylum in the United States or has entered into the United States in refugee status;

(v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

(vi) has a pending application for asylum in the United States;

(vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

(viii) has approved deferred action status; or

(ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

(C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS-

(i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person.

(ii) EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only during the period of time of the applicant's authorized stay in the United States or, if there is no definite end to the period of authorized stay, a period of one year.

(iii) DISPLAY OF EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly indicate that it is temporary and shall state the date on which it expires.

(iv) RENEWAL- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph may be renewed only upon presentation of valid documentary evidence that the status by which the applicant qualified for the temporary driver's license or temporary identification card has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

****************************************************

This was from last year's bill (section 3052(c) of the HR 10)

( (2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS-

( (A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph.

( (B) EVIDENCE OF LEGAL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

( (i) is a citizen of the United States;

( (ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

( (iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

( (iv) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

( (v) has a pending or approved application for asylum in the United States;

( (vi) has entered into the United States in refugee status;

( (vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

( (viii) has approved deferred action status; or

( (ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

( (C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS-

( (i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (iv) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person.

( (ii) EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only during the period of time of the applicant's authorized stay in the United States or if there is no definite end to the period of authorized stay a period of one year.

( (iii) DISPLAY OF EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly indicate that it is temporary and shall state the date on which it expires.

( (iv) RENEWAL- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph may be renewed only upon presentation of valid documentary evidence that the status by which the applicant qualified for the temporary driver's license or temporary identification card has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
 
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samoel said:
Some states been doing this for couple of years. Also is a matter of showing proper docs, last year I went for renewal at the DMV in Florida with my I485 receipt notice and I got DL for a year this year (last week) showed them my I94 on the RTD and I got it for 5 years.
What I read on the article says nothing about one year DL for asylees. I googled around but nothing comes up, can somebody post a link to the bill?

Samoel,

Asylees and refugees have always presented special challenges to DMV officials. I was one of the people who lobbied the Florida DMV to change its policy on asylees and refugees. As of May 2003 they have treated asylees as lawful permanet residents. See this link: http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=83808 I was also involved in the successful effort in convince TN officials to to the same thing.

And now apparently people in Congress want to do that too.
 
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Gilbert said:
Samoel,

Asylees and refugees have always presented special challenges to DMV officials. I was one of the people who lobbied the Florida DMV to change its policy on asylees and refugees. As of May 2003 they have treated asylees as lawful permanet residents. See this link: http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=83808 I was also involved in the successful effort in convince TN officials to to the same thing.

And now apparently people in Congress want to do that too.

Thank you for your insight, Gilbert. I actually think the current version of the bill makes a lot of sense and I am inclined to support it.
 
Thank God they changed their mind relative to asylees and refugees.



Gilbert said:
Only a last-minute personal intervention by President Bush deleted the onerous drivers licenses restrictions from the 9/11 intelligence reform law that Congress passed last December. The sponsors vowed then to reintroduce the bill this year and they just did that. But after reading the two bills side by side, I noticed a small (but very significant for asylees) change. To the best of my understanding, the current bill would not impact asylees if passed (last year's would have).


This is the current version (section 202(c) of HR 418, REAL ID ACT of 2005):

(2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS-

(A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph.

(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

(i) is a citizen of the United States;

(ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

(iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

(iv) has an approved application for asylum in the United States or has entered into the United States in refugee status;

(v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

(vi) has a pending application for asylum in the United States;

(vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

(viii) has approved deferred action status; or

(ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

(C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS-

(i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person.

(ii) EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only during the period of time of the applicant's authorized stay in the United States or, if there is no definite end to the period of authorized stay, a period of one year.

(iii) DISPLAY OF EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly indicate that it is temporary and shall state the date on which it expires.

(iv) RENEWAL- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph may be renewed only upon presentation of valid documentary evidence that the status by which the applicant qualified for the temporary driver's license or temporary identification card has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

****************************************************

This was from last year's bill (section 3052(c) of the HR 10)

( (2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS-

( (A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph.

( (B) EVIDENCE OF LEGAL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

( (i) is a citizen of the United States;

( (ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

( (iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

( (iv) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

( (v) has a pending or approved application for asylum in the United States;

( (vi) has entered into the United States in refugee status;

( (vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

( (viii) has approved deferred action status; or

( (ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

( (C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS-

( (i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (iv) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person.

( (ii) EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only during the period of time of the applicant's authorized stay in the United States or if there is no definite end to the period of authorized stay a period of one year.

( (iii) DISPLAY OF EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly indicate that it is temporary and shall state the date on which it expires.

( (iv) RENEWAL- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph may be renewed only upon presentation of valid documentary evidence that the status by which the applicant qualified for the temporary driver's license or temporary identification card has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
 
Gilbert said:
Samoel,

Asylees and refugees have always presented special challenges to DMV officials. I was one of the people who lobbied the Florida DMV to change its policy on asylees and refugees. As of May 2003 they have treated asylees as lawful permanet residents. See this link: http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=83808 I was also involved in the successful effort in convince TN officials to to the same thing.

And now apparently people in Congress want to do that too.

Thank You Gilbert for your efforts and clarification.
 
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