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wallst_wizz

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http://www.thefrontierpost.com.pk/main2.asp#392


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US, Jews & Hindus nexuses dangerous...

New Delhi (NNI): Indo-Israel nexus has got a boost as India is acquiring anti-ballistic missile defence capability from Israel. Israel has reportedly asked New Delhi to invest $100 million in the development of Arrow II weapon system. While South Block is tightlipped over the Israeli proposal, according to a report published in an Indian paper on Sunday, the security establishment in New Delhi sees this as “a tremendous opportunity to secure its defence against the threat of short- and medium-range nuclear capable missiles in the neighbourhood.” The Arrow II weapon system is built around the Green Pine Radar System, which is capable of simultaneous tracking of tactical ballistic missiles from a range of over 300 kilometers. The system is designed to intercept as many as 14 incoming missiles at the height of 58 km, at nine times the speed of sound. The first test of Arrow II’s ability to launch multiple targets was conducted last month. Defence sources told Indian Express that the Tel Aviv’s proposal to involve India in the ongoing development of the Arrow II programme was officially conveyed after the missile test. It is understood that the Israelis also conveyed that Turkey had already invested $100 million in the anti-missile project. However, Indian involvement in the project is not easy as the system is jointly being run by Israel and the US. The US has already put some $ 628 million into the billion-dollar anti-ballistic missile programme. So any Indian involvement in the Israeli programme will need a go-ahead from Washington, writes the paper. Given the strong non-proliferation lobby in the US, the State department is none too keen on India acquiring the anti-ballistic missile capability. But Pentagon has a different view on the subject as it recognizes India’s long-standing commitment to non-proliferation and the need for New Delhi to beef up its defensive capability. Top Pentagon officials have reportedly said that Indian acquisition of the Arrow system is not in violation of the missile technology control regime as the weapon is purely for defensive purposes. The Israeli proposal comes at a time when the Indian Navy is doing ship trials of the recently acquired Barak anti-missile system from Tel Aviv. The first of the eight Barak anti-missile systems arrived in India last October and have been installed on guided missile frigate INS Ganga. The western fleet of Indian Navy is trying to integrate the Barak system with the indigenous radars on board the ship. The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) acquired a Green Pine Radar system in 2001 from Israel for building up indigenous anti-missile defence capability. The DRDO has amibitious plans to integrate the 25-km range Akash missile and phased array Rajendra radar, both in the development stage, with the Green Pine and the Arrow interceptors. The tedious process may get speeded up if India gets involved in the Israeli project.
 
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Thanks for the article wallst_wizz but what is your point ? India is going to spend $100M more in buying arms from another country for what ? For an arms race against an impoverished and politically isolated neighbor who hardly has any industries any more ?
Who are we building this for ? Defence from Chinese missiles or Pakistan's ? No missile defence system can protect India from the overwhelming number of Chinese missiles in case of an attack. On the other hand Pakistan's tactic had always been covert war, plus there is already a more than credible deterrence against Pakistan's war machine right now - the money should go into infrastructure projects in J&K.
Israel is just trying to break into a multi-billion dollar arms-trade market. By-the-way India is already one of the biggest importers of arms in the world. The nexus is not relegious as the writer insinuates - it is purely economic. Jews have no love lost for Hindus, however, Israel can sell a ton of junk to India for good money.

Bottomline - AirForceOne will not understand this article.
 
Good response Waytoolong

Like your response, I agree with most of your views. But remember, India should be able to sell not just buying like China, Israel, UK, FRANCE and USA. Unfortunately missile defence systems are not accurate enough. But India should continue arms race so that its spoiled brother one day gets Bankrupt or belly up. Some how Air force not responded.
 
I didn't want to respond to this as I don't see there is anything for me to respond. This is in India's favor, so good for India and therfore no need for me to respond.

Israeli's are the smartest and bravest people of all or else how could they would have survived ? No fucki??? way.

Can you imagine Indians in their shoe, we would have been wiped out long time ago. Instead Israel fight and fight back very hard. Israel survived because of their superior brain. Whole black gold islamic world hates Israel which is tiny nation and yet it survives. Amazing what people with balls can do.
 
Beg to differ with both of you :
wallst_wizz : India's non-aligned position and it's role as a non-proliferator is hugely respected in the world community and is the stongest case for admittance as a perm member of the security council (even though India has not signed the NPT). Selling arms is against our fundamental beliefs and policies - remember the founding father is still Mohandas Gandhi , not Bal Thackeray.
Like it or not - a economically underdeveloped arms dealer will be equated to North Korea, not with US or Uk.
Pakistan has been backed into a corner with its dealings with the Taliban, cross-border terrorism and proliferation of nuclear technology. A little more effort in the diplomatic front will ensure complete political victory for India. Arms race at this point will make matters worse for India and better for Pakistan - they will get an excuse to justify their behavior.
AirforceOne : I went to a school that had Palestinian students where I made a few friends, and I know a lot more about how the Palestinians are treated in the West Bank than you do. Israel's existence is due to a combination of guts and lots of support from Uncle Sam. Yes, Israel has a right to exist - but not at the expense of the Palestinians. The land of the Palestine was shared by both Palestinians and jews since biblical times. Hope they find a peaceful settlement soon. India's neutrality in this respect and it's moral support for the Palestinian cause and at the same time recognition of the state of Israel is the right thing to do. There is good reason for that - the Bal Thackeray's of the world do not shape India's foreign policy - very well qualified IFS and IAS officers do. And it has been so far so good. Trying to saffronize our foreign policy will be a much bigger disaster than the saffron domestic policy. Do remember - we import most of our oil. If RSS-VHP gets involved in our foreign policy - you can kiss riding a auto in Delhi goodbye.
 
I agree India's foreign policy has been so far so good. We import lot of oil. SO what ? So does USA, much more than India does. Just because we import oil doesn't mean we should not take care of things that needed to be taken care.

According to your strategy we should wait until the time is perfect, that time will never come, just like you can never time the stock market, we need to learn to do multiple things at a time.

USA supplies arms/WMD to every one at the same time it decides who is proliferator of arms and weapons of mass destruction.

It is the only country who have used Nuclear weapon in the history of mankind , yet it gets to decide who should have one and who shouldn't.

It supports Isreal even when all Muslims countries are againsts it and it has billions of dollars of trade with Arab countries.

According to you US should not do anything which will make Arab world unhappy. Right ? With that space they would have never become superpower.

We should be able to this and we should be able to do that.
 
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