An e mail thread with mumbai regarding PCC

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My e mail (after they sent me a confusing word document regarding the PCC ) :

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Dear Rashna :

Once again . Thank you for your e mail.

I was not aware of the new police certification requirements for Indian citizens.
It would be great if someone could update the US embassy web site to reflect the new information , since
it still says that NO police certificate is required if you lived in India or the US only.

I have a question. My Pkt 3 reached Mumbai on Nov 19 2001 .
At that time I did not know of this police certification requirement and hence had not
even attempted to make one.
I found out about this thru your last e mail just this morning.

I have applied for the police certificate with the Indian embassy in New York .
They say they might take upto 45 days to get a clearance. I m not sure if I will
get this in time for my interview , although\' I will try my best.( Its really not in my hands) .
How does this affect my interview now? Is the police certificate a complete necessity or
is this an optional document . Both me and my wife have been in the US for 2-3 years now .

I find it rather unfair , that the US embassy chose not to inform me directly about the new
police certification rule. If it was not for my query ( and your e mail ) I would not even have known.
Even the National Visa center in the US does not know of this change. I did call them.
Since I will have my interview in just 5-6 weeks from now , this now puts me under
immense stress.

Can you please confirm that this rule affects me as well , as my papers / case was forwarded
to Mumbai in Nov ( before this rule was created ).
In fact in the OF 169 , I even stated that I have all required documents. At that time the poilce
certificate was unrequited.

I would appreciate if the US embassy in Mumbai could clarify its stand on the police certificate.
All I ask is for the embassy to reasonable . I understand that after the events of Sep 11 security
is a priority. I myself narrowly escaped being caught in the world trade center and so can appreciate
the new security/police clearance rules. But yet , you surely cannot expect people to get this
done in a matter of days , especially when the Indian embassy in New York says it takes 45 days.

If you are not the appropriate person that I should be sending this e mail to , I would
appreciate if you could forward this to the appropriate person.

Once again , Thank you for your swift replies. You have been most helpful.

Kind regds
 
And their reply

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We shall update the website as soon as possible. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

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I got the same word document from the same person...My analysis

Hello,

I had asked some questions that arose because of confusion in text of the word document. The consulate sent me the word document again. Looks like, we need Police Clearance from two places:
1. RPO and
2. also Local Stations, if passport is 6 months or older.

The text of the word document I got from Mumbai [my analysis in brackets]:

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Indian Police clearance certificates for the Immigrant visa interview should be obtained as follows:

1. All Indian IV applicants age 16 and above, residing in India, should obtain police certificates from the local passport office. These are usually more dependable than those obtained at a local level and indicate that the subject had no serious criminal convictions on record at the time of passport issuance. Applicants whose Indian passport was issued within the past six months may present just the passport office police certificate, and need not obtain additional police clearances.

[Shri Ganesh: this is only for people RESIDING IN INDIA and not for CPers]

2. Applicants over age 16 whose passports were issued more than six months previous to visa application must also obtain a police clearance from the district police office serving the applicant\'s place of residence.

[Shri Ganesh: this is only for CPers with passports older than 6 months. but then read that "also", which suggests that item no. 1 AND 2 both are required for CPers. But Item 1 is for people residing in India, which are not CPers. So confusion, confusion,....I guess do your best. Consulates themselves don\'t have a clear picture.]

3. Indian passport holders applying for visas outside India should obtain a statement from their local Embassy or Consulate confirming they have no criminal record.

[Shri Ganesh: this is only for I-485 people who might require PCC in future or some other cases of NIV applications outside India. Take this PCC from Indian consulate as a solace to consulate\'s requirement.]

4. Non-Indian IV applicants residing in India should obtain police certificates from the district police station serving their area of residence.

[Shri Ganesh: this is NOT AT ALL for CPers, the non-confusing portion of this document, hahaha!]

5. Indian police certificates are not available for foreign (non-Indian) applicants applying outside India.

[Shri Ganesh: this is NOT AT ALL for CPers, the non-confusing portion of this document, hahaha! This means a Canadian or a British or somebody else - i.e. Non-Indian cannot request India\'s PCC for their visa applications, even if they stayed in India for 6 months or more after the age of 16.]

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shri ganesh: See my earlier posting in this regard...

skarekat "Finished with Medicals & will get the Local PCC.." 12/28/01 11:49am
 
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