After GC but before US passort

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Hemang

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I have a unique situation and not sure if this is correct post.
if I am required to travel out of USA, after getting a Certificate of Citizenship but before getting USA passport [~ 4 to 6 weeks] - can I travel on Green Card status? OR as soon as I get Certificate of Citizenship my Green Card goes out of status?
In that in between situation if I am required to go to India on the emergency basis how do I go?
Please Advice.
TIA.
HMM
 
When you take oath, you will be surrendering your GC. I am also curious to know answer to your question.
 
Hemang said:
I have a unique situation and not sure if this is correct post.
if I am required to travel out of USA, after getting a Certificate of Citizenship but before getting USA passport [~ 4 to 6 weeks] - can I travel on Green Card status? OR as soon as I get Certificate of Citizenship my Green Card goes out of status?
In that in between situation if I am required to go to India on the emergency basis how do I go?
Please Advice.
TIA.
HMM
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You have to first explore the option of the same day passport application directly at passport agency
 
You cannot travel without a US passport. If there is an emergency you can request an emergency/same day passport at the nearest passport agency which you can get in 1-2 days. Your green card will be taken from you at the oath ceremony. Your Indian passport (if you are Indian passport holder) also will become automatically invalid for travel once you take the oath.
 
IPL-fan said:
When you take oath, you will be surrendering your GC. I am also curious to know answer to your question.
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He is talkinga botu certificat eof citizenship. So maybe he got citizenship throu parent's naturalization in that case
he got to keep his GC.
 
Hemang said:
I have a unique situation and not sure if this is correct post.
if I am required to travel out of USA, after getting a Certificate of Citizenship but before getting USA passport [~ 4 to 6 weeks] - can I travel on Green Card status? OR as soon as I get Certificate of Citizenship my Green Card goes out of status?
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How did you or will you get citizenship? Through your parents because you are under 18 and they naturalized, or through your own naturalization process?
 
Jackolantern said:
How did you or will you get citizenship? Through your parents because you are under 18 and they naturalized, or through your own naturalization process?
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I wonder if it is a crime for a person who got citizenship thru parent to pretend he does not know he is a citizen and
still use GC and old passport to travel around. Apparently many do that unknowlingly because we often heard many
people of such kind in porcess of whatever immigration/naturliazation process suddenly find out they already became
citizens thru parent some years ago. Before they realiza that they must have using GC all the time
 
Hemang has another thread in which it is clear he's applying for naturalization through N-400. He also mentions about surrendering the GC, so I am not sure where the confusion about citizenship from parents arise. Anyway, as already pointed out, the best you can do is get a same day passport at a passport agency in case you really have an emergency trip. They will take the GC when you naturalize (at the oath ceremony) and you can't travel on your naturalization certificate. Please realize that all US citizens by birth face the same situation. They can't travel on their birth certificates. If they have an emergency and they don't have a passport they'll have to go to a passport agency. Obviously the best thing is letting people know when you are naturalizing so they don't schedule trips around those dates.

My 2 cents.
 
Huracan said:
Hemang has another thread in which it is clear he's applying for naturalization through N-400. He also mentions about surrendering the GC, so I am not sure where the confusion about citizenship from parents arise.
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He didn't mention surrendering the GC in this thread. This thread was started without giving the background information or a link to the other thread, that's why there is confusion here.
 
WBH said:
I wonder if it is a crime for a person who got citizenship thru parent to pretend he does not know he is a citizen and
still use GC and old passport to travel around. Apparently many do that unknowlingly because we often heard many
people of such kind in porcess of whatever immigration/naturliazation process suddenly find out they already became
citizens thru parent some years ago. Before they realiza that they must have using GC all the time
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Technically it is illegal for a US citizen to leave or enter without a passport or other approved document (e.g. Enhance Drivers License), but I doubt they will ever or have ever enforced it against somebody if there is no evidence that indicates they knew about having citizenship.

I think they should make it a routine part of the interview to tell applicants who list children under 18 with an A# on the N-400 that their children may become citizens when they naturalize, and that they are advised to look into applying for a US passport and/or N-600 for them. Or even better, give the oath takers a letter listing which of their children are probably citizens and advising them to investigate their children's citizenship and obtain proof of it. The letter could include a summary of the Child Citizenship Act.
 
Jackolantern said:
Technically it is illegal for a US citizen to leave or enter without a passport or other approved document (e.g. Enhance Drivers License), but I doubt they will ever or have ever enforced it against somebody if there is no evidence that indicates they knew about having citizenship.

I think they should make it a routine part of the interview to tell applicants who list children under 18 with an A# on the N-400 that their children may become citizens when they naturalize, and that they are advised to look into applying for a US passport and/or N-600 for them. Or even better, give the oath takers a letter listing which of their children are probably citizens and advising them to investigate their children's citizenship and obtain proof of it. The letter could include a summary of the Child Citizenship Act.
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I agree it should be routine. My IO reminded me of that, but of course I already knew.
I also pleaded the case with the citizenship ombudsman about producing automatic certificates for children as part of N-400 processing. In that case parents would provide pictures of the child and pay some extra fee. The certificate would be ready when the parent/s naturalize. However, I understand that there are corner cases that would be more difficult to track this way (child absent from US, custody issues).
 
Hemang said:
I have a unique situation and not sure if this is correct post.
if I am required to travel out of USA, after getting a Certificate of Citizenship but before getting USA passport [~ 4 to 6 weeks] - can I travel on Green Card status? OR as soon as I get Certificate of Citizenship my Green Card goes out of status?
In that in between situation if I am required to go to India on the emergency basis how do I go?
Please Advice.
TIA.
HMM
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Everytime someone changes his status from GC to citizenship (not talking about approval papers/certificates because they are only proof of status), then he/she cannot use the papers from the previous status to go out of the country. For emergency cases, one can always walk-in to the nearest passport agency with travel tickets and get a US passport on the same day. The worry is about getting the destination coountry's visa in time to deal with the emergency.
 
Jackolantern said:
He didn't mention surrendering the GC in this thread. This thread was started without giving the background information or a link to the other thread, that's why there is confusion here.
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My bad, but he did mention the green card on the first post, not surrendering, but traveling on the green card :) Anyway, my comment should have been more courteous.
 
Huracan said:
My bad, but he did mention the green card on the first post, not surrendering, but traveling on the green card :)
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Yes we all saw that he mentioned the GC, but his mention of traveling with it after citizenship made us wonder if he was deriving or had derived citizenship from his parents, because if he was taking the oath himself he wouldn't have the GC any more. And he also mentioned "Certificate of Citizenship" instead of "Naturalization Certificate".
 
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