AC21 rule

thk

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Hi Friends,

I have a question about using AC21 rule.

My 180 days period will end in Sepember and I am looking forward to switch the job. My current employer is not good enough in any aspect. That is the reason I want to switch the job.

Anyways, what are the things that I have to have in hand to use AC21 rule.

1. Do I need copy of Labor approval?
2. Do I need copy of I-140 approval?

I requested my employer to send me the copies of those two, and they said big NO. I didn't tell that I am looking for other job.

Can any one of you tell me what is the solution, and how to get the copies of my Labor and I-140.

I applied I-485 with apporved I-140 and I have the reciepts of my I-485.

Please advice me my friends.

Thank you very much.

THK
 
I understand that there must some pressing reason not to stay with current employer, but somehow try to adjust because if he revokes your I-140 you are in quite a tough situation

There have been cases where company informed BCIS that employee was no longer working for them and BCIS themselves cancelled i140
 
I-140 Revoked after 180 days ???

Doesn't AC-21 itself clearly suggest that the company can NOT revoke the I-140 after 180 days ?

If so, how come the BCIS did it in the past ?

My God .... there are some idiots in BCIS that don't understand immigration law but work as adjudicators.

But even if that's the case, BCIS normally goes to the attorneys for inquiry instead of to the company itself ; unless the attorney is working for the sponsoring company.
 
Yes

In some of the message boards, persons with the handle-name of anamica, joyin55, longgc etc

had their 1485s denied for that reason

Please search for these to see what has happened to their cases
 
Now don't worry AC21 guys. Just enjoyed after 180 days

http://www.fragomen.com/index2.html

US IMMIGRATION HEADLINES 08/11/2003 - BCIS Issues Memo on I-485 Portability

August 11, 2003 -- In a memorandum dated August 4, 2003, the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services has issued guidance on I-485 portability in the context of concurrent filing and Section 106(c) of the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 200 (AC21).

The memo first summarizes BCIS's interpretation of AC21 § 106(c), stating that if a Form I-140 has been approved and the Form I-485 has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more, the approved I-140 will remain valid even if the foreign national changes jobs or employers, as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupational classification. If the I-485 has been pending for less than 180 days, the approved I-140 does not remain valid with respect to a new offer of employment. The memorandum confirms that the I-140 must be approved for portability to be available.

The memorandum goes on to discuss the effect of revocation or withdrawal of an approved I-140 on a pending I-485. The guidance on this issue is as follows:


According to BCIS, if the employer withdraws the approved Form I-140 on or after the date that the Form I-485 has been pending 180 days, the approved I-140 remains valid under the provisions of Section 106(c) of AC21.
BCIS expects that a foreign national will have submitted evidence that his or her new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupational classification.
If the underlying Form I-140 has been withdrawn and the foreign national has not submitted evidence of a new qualifying offer of employment, the adjudicating officer must issue a Notice of Intent to Deny the pending Form I-485.
If the foreign national timely responds to the Notice with evidence of a qualifying job offer, the BCIS may consider the Form I-140 to remain valid with respect to that offer and regular processing of the I-485 may continue.
If the foreign national timely responds to the Notice but does not establish evidence of a qualifying job offer, the adjudicating officer "may" immediately deny the I-485.
If the foreign national fails to respond or timely respond to the Notice, the adjudicating officer "may" immediately deny the I-485.
If approval of the Form I-140 is revoked or the Form I-140 is withdrawn before the I-485 has been pending for 180 days, the approved I-140 is no longer valid with respect to the new officer of employment and the I-485 may be denied. Prior BCIS guidance indicates that revocations are retroactive to the date that withdrawal was requested by the employer; therefore it is possible that, though a revocation may be effected by BCIS after 180 days have elapsed, it will be deemed to have occurred prior to the 180-day mark if the employer requested withdrawal before that time.

The offer of employment must be in good faith and the employer must have had the intent, at the time the I-140 was approved, to employ the beneficiary upon adjustment. The memo goes on to note that there is no requirement that the beneficiary of the I-140 actually be in employment until permanent residence is authorized and that it is possible for a foreign national to qualify for the provisions of Section 106(c) even if he or she had never been employed by the prior petitioning
 
Thats really good.
reach_honey, I couldn't find it on BCIS website. Any other lawyer saying this?

But there's no clear-cut clarification if it's concurrent fling. I filed concurrently in Jan. 140 was approved 2 month ago (after 4 months), 485 pending for 8 months.

Everywhere it says "If 485 is pending for >180- days, and 140 approved". Does this mean I can move?
 
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KJKOOL

According to the rule i guess you can move, but the sad part of it is you ask any attorney they are not clear about the AC21 rules, so doing it by yourself is like taking a risk

I guess nobody in this forum can give you a fixed reply for that
:D :confused:

Pchandr
 
Thanks

Thanks for all the responses.

But still I need to know what is the leagal way to get the copies of Labor and I-140 approvals for my employer (after 180 days).

Thanks

thk
 
thk,

Mine was AC21 too and got approved couple weeks ago. Since I changed my company during 485, I also switched lawyers (ones affiliated to my new company). I had to submit a form to the old law firm stating that I need all paperwork transferred since I'm changing lawyers. They sent copies of everything on my file to the new laywer and me.

Even after that, since BCIS continued to send them the approval notice/RFE etc, they were promptly forwarded to the new lawyer. They are legally obligated to do so and cannot deny you copies of any paperwork once you've notified them that you're changing lawyers.

This is just my personal experience and may or may not be generalized.

Pardoner
 
Thank you very much Pardoner

I really appriciate your reply. Now my mind is clear and stress free.

Thanks again.
 
What is that form ?

Pardoner,

What is the name or number of the form that you had to send to your old lawer to get all your paper back to the new lawer ?
I am also in the same boat. Might have to change the lawer soon. Mine is a very very old case (RD/ND February 2001). No news about the developments. No help from Lawer or Senators .

Thanks in advance.
mandu.
 
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