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About 96,000 persons, both principal applicants and their spouses and children, will

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How does the selection process work?


The State Department's Kentucky Consular Center will receive all applications submitted electronically. Upon receipt, the KCC will assign the application to one of six geographic regions and assign the applicant an individual number. Within each region, the first applicant randomly selected will be the first person registered, the second applicant selected will be the second person registered, etc. When a case is registered, the applicant will immediately be sent a notification letter that will give visa application instructions. About 90,000 persons, both principal applicants and their spouses and children, will be registered. There is a risk that some applicants will be left out. Indeed, this has been a problem for people drawn late in the selection process. According to the Department of State, all applicants will be informed promptly of their place on the list. Each month visas will be issued, according to registration lottery rank order, to those ready for visa issuance for that month. Once 50,000 visas are issued, the program ends. Registrants for the DV-2008 lottery will have to have their visa in hand by September 30, 2008 at the latest. You must be prepared to act promptly if your name is selected.

How strict are the numbers?

The cut off number listed on the visa bulletin is the true cut off number. There are absolutely no exceptions. If 12,800 is the cut off number for your region, and you received 12800 as the last digits in your lottery number, you are cut off from further processing.





source from a law firm.
http://www.citizenshipimmigration.com/diversity.htm
 
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I retract

It appears almost certain that 8yrsusa is right.
In addition to the link he provided it would be a good idea to take a look at the DV visa instructions for 2001 and 1999. I couldn’t find these in the state department website but they are still maintained in some immigration related websites. Both the instructions for 2001 and 1999 make it clear that the roughly 90,000 to 100,000 people chosen include derivatives too.

Take a look at these links:

Instructions for Dv 2001
Instructions for Dv1999

The Instructions for DV2001 says:

There are a maximum of 55,000 DV visas available for Fiscal Year 2001 but more than that number of individuals will be registered. A total of about 100,000 persons, both principal applicants and their spouses and children, will be registered. Since it is likely that some of the first 50,000 persons who are registered will not pursue their cases to visa issuance, this larger figure should ensure use of all DV-2001 numbers, but it also risks some registrants being left out.
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This means that case numbers do in fact skip to account for derivatives.

So thanks 8yrsusa for correcting my error and also for persisting so much!

This is actually good news because this means that the percentage of lottery winners who “pass” the visa interview is much higher than I had previously thought. So those of us who’ve won the lottery have more reason to be optimistic of being granted a green card.
 
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Finally approved

Hi Mihiranga,
Appreciate Your Understanding. I had a gut feeling that I am correct. I tried to convince our educated friends about my logic.
That's why I was so frustrated and Posted stories about Church and Magellan.
So I am happy that I was able to convince at least you.
Thanks again.
Best regards

8yrsusa
 
finnaly the answer

I am happy that it seems we have the answer to the question which I have posted previously, and have been forced to delite cause the comments went in direction not helpfull to the readers of the forum.
 
I also agree

I have read the discussion which was going on in another thread regarding this topic. Although I did not take part in discussion by I believed that the opinion of 8yrsusa was logical and correct. Now he has provided further proof of his opinion.

This discussion may not increase our chances to get a GC through DV but it certainly increases our knowledge about it. 8yrsusa, thanks for your effort.
 
"About 90,000 persons, both principal applicants and their spouses and children, will be registered."

what does it means?

90,000 principal applicants?
or
90,000 persons including the principal applicants and their derivatives?
 
Dear Mihirnaga & 8yrsusa,

please relief me from my confusion.

suppose my case number is xx100 and I have my wife and 2 children with me. So what will be the next NL case number xx104 or xx101 for the same regeion?
 
Dear Zahid,

If your case number is xx100, then since you have your wife and 2 children as derivatives 3 numbers will be skipped and the next NL case number will be xx104.
 
Tazmania said:
Nobody knows the right answer, there is somewhere another thread with the same discussion.
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That thread has been deleted. The right answer is pretty clear if you look at the DV visa instructions for 2001 and 1999. I am one of the guys who argued stongly that visa numbers cannot skip because of derivatives, but I changed my mind due to the information in this thread.
 
zahid474 said:
Dear Mihirnaga & 8yrsusa,

please relief me from my confusion.

suppose my case number is xx100 and I have my wife and 2 children with me. So what will be the next NL case number xx104 or xx101 for the same regeion?
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next NL be XX104
 
Im From Iran .2008as 67** . I Couldnt Find Any Person To Fill Out The Form I -134 In The Us. The Council Told Me I Must Bring This In The Interview Day .please Help Me. I Also Asked Them If I Could Bring Fund Letter From Iranian Bank But They Told Me ' No '. Just The Form I-134 . Im So Depressed Now.
 
8yrsusa said:
Hi Mihiranga,
Appreciate Your Understanding. I had a gut feeling that I am correct. I tried to convince our educated friends about my logic.
That's why I was so frustrated and Posted stories about Church and Magellan.
So I am happy that I was able to convince at least you.
Thanks again.
Best regards

8yrsusa
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Interesting observations, thanks for pointing that out, the more we know about the DV the better. I was watching the original discussion, I wanted to post but I had no hard evidence to prove you right or wrong, all I could contribute was my opinion which up until now was that derivates were not included, but you have clearly shown that is a flawed opinion.

Now I have a further opinion, do you think its fair to say that the EU applicants probably have less derivatives then say AF applicants?
My logic is that EU CN’s see to correlate quite well with the number of published EU winners. Where as in AF they are a way out. I think that maybe this is because there are many more derivatives included in the AF cases, thus inflating the CN so high? What do people think about this?
 
DV2001 & 1999 instruction

Mihiranga said:
That thread has been deleted. The right answer is pretty clear if you look at the DV visa instructions for 2001 and 1999. I am one of the guys who argued stongly that visa numbers cannot skip because of derivatives, but I changed my mind due to the information in this thread.
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Please give me the link address.
 
jorj93 said:
Many more marriages and childbirth yet to take place before interviews.
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Yes, we have to take into account those derivatives too.
means, more individulas to be added to current 96,000 figure.
 
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