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Joo77

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I found some story on some lawyer's website. Do you guy believe it? If it is real, what a lucky guy! or what a good lawyer! There must be a fast-track on VSC. Most peoples include me have to wait years.

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NEW YORK - VERMONT SERVICE CENTER

National Interest Waiver approved by Vermont Service Center on behalf of a postdoctoral researcher at a research institute. Without RFE. Filed in August 2004. Approved in October 2004.

Field of expertise: biomedical research/cell, molecular and cancer biology

Education: PhD, microbiology


Claimed national interest(s): cancer prevention

Time from initial filing to approval : <2 months

Summary of qualifications:

3 papers in international academic journals including 1 as first author
Conference speaker
6 support letters
 
Joo77 said:
I found some story on some lawyer's website. Do you guy believe it? If it is real, what a lucky guy! or what a good lawyer! There must be a fast-track on VSC. Most peoples include me have to wait years.

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NEW YORK - VERMONT SERVICE CENTER

National Interest Waiver approved by Vermont Service Center on behalf of a postdoctoral researcher at a research institute. Without RFE. Filed in August 2004. Approved in October 2004.

Field of expertise: biomedical research/cell, molecular and cancer biology

Education: PhD, microbiology


Claimed national interest(s): cancer prevention

Time from initial filing to approval : <2 months

Summary of qualifications:

3 papers in international academic journals including 1 as first author
Conference speaker
6 support letters

Hard to believe. May be exceptional. You can ask for reference and confirm by talking to person personally.
 
Joo77 said:
I found some story on some lawyer's website. Do you guy believe it? If it is real, what a lucky guy! or what a good lawyer! There must be a fast-track on VSC. Most peoples include me have to wait years.

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NEW YORK - VERMONT SERVICE CENTER

National Interest Waiver approved by Vermont Service Center on behalf of a postdoctoral researcher at a research institute. Without RFE. Filed in August 2004. Approved in October 2004.

Field of expertise: biomedical research/cell, molecular and cancer biology

Education: PhD, microbiology


Claimed national interest(s): cancer prevention

Time from initial filing to approval : <2 months

Summary of qualifications:

3 papers in international academic journals including 1 as first author
Conference speaker
6 support letters

This looks like the exception rather than the rule. One publication as first author seems kind of weak, unless the article was in "Science". The other thing I think about in procesing times is that you never know who is backing that person up. A family member married a US Citizen a few years ago and had his marriage-based GC approved in 3 weeks. How, you might ask? His wife worked very closely with a certain US Senator's Office (that Senator happens to be running for President) and the immigration liason there made a few phone calls and the deal was done. Exception rather than rule.

Brian
 
Actually, I heard several real cases like that too. It is possible because that person's project(s) actually directly related to the public health, or national security which will are two big reasons to be approved.
 
scicrap said:
Actually, I heard several real cases like that too. It is possible because that person's project(s) actually directly related to the public health, or national security which will are two big reasons to be approved.

So it looks like there is a intial screening when the case is received at Service center. Some are considered as higher priority case - in fast lane, and all others as normal case.
 
Things are different...
I had my NIW case denied: topic medical research (immunochemistry), 37 papers published, most with me as 1st author, one book chapter, many conference presentations (about 30 or so), reviewer in several journals and one book, fellowships, member of several societies, experience of many years research after my Ph.D. from a leading University, etc... had about 9 letters of rec. from several countries, incliding one letter from a Nobel price winner.
Well, it was denied, my lawyer told not much chance in appealing but I still decided to try... appeal was approved.
 
HI Compass,
Could you tell us what are the reasons (as in your denial notice) your case got denial at first place? The universal 3rd prong? Your background looks very strong, even good enough for a EA.
 
I need to find the denial letter, I will try... after approval of my appeal (well.. my lawyer's appeal) I was so happy and I am not sure where is it...
 
Compass,

Your case could have been approved more easily under EB1EA, which appears to me be more straightfoward than NIW once you meet the criteria. In this case, you seem to meet the EB1EA criteria.

You can be an alien of extra-ordinary ability in a field which is not of national interest. You can also be in a field which is of national interest without being an alien of extra-ordinary ability. Therefore, it depends on how you argue your NIW, which is not as straightffoward as EB1EA.
 
I'm surprised to hear compass' story - a letter for a Nobel winner has always been considered a silver bullet. But all the same, there are letters that will get their attention in a jiffy. About a year ago someone here submitted a letter from a two-star army general with his application, NIW or OR I don't remember, and he was approved very quickly.
 
A letter from a two-star army general would suggest that your work is of NI, but not neccessarily of EB1 quality. The reverse may be true for a letter from a Nobel Prize winner which would could prove that you are of EB1 quality.
 
When I wanted to submit my I-140, I of course asked my lawyer what is the best way, and he told me it is employment-based OR and I don't qualify for E1 and NIW is ok but less chance. Since I was under impression that my company may not last long, I decided to go for NIW.
Yes, my info looks good... but... out from many papers most are published in my home country, the journals never read and cited ... I had only 5-6 papers in international journals at that time, with me as 1st author. I did a citation search to respond to my RFE and I thin I found about 70 or so citations, but all to maybe 3 of my papers only, others are not cited at all…
It turned out I had 14 rec. letters (I thought it was less..), but again, my lawyer told they are most from the people I worked with earlier, and this is not valued much…
In my company I was not supposed to publish but I got several patents…but they all were provisional at the time I filed I-140, so again, not of much value..
And I never was a ‘leader of group of people’ and never ‘commanded high salary’…
So it is really important HOW you present your info, whatever it is…

My REF and denial were just saying there is not enough proof that my work is of so much national interest that I need not file a LC-based case..

I am giving some details of my lawyer’s response to the denial below:

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The record contains 14 letters from experts in academia and industry, all attesting to Dr. XXX’s exceptional expertise in her field, explaining the national interest nature of her work, and supporting the waiver of a job offer and approval of the national interest I-140 petition.

The Denial attempts to discount the value of the international research fellowships Dr. XXX received as being merely for collaborative research. While it is certainly true that such research by its nature is collaborative, Dr. XXX was the principal investigator on these projects and the key to their success. In addition, she received the fellowship awards on the basis of an article she published in a top journal in the field concerning her development of a novel chemical assay (See the letter from Professor YYY submitted with the original petition.)

The Denial also discounts Dr. XXXs work as a reviewer judging the work of others for top journals as merely being part of a collaborative process. Peer-reviewed publication is also by nature a collaborative process.

Dr. XXX has served as a reviewer for AAA, one of the top journals in her field. (See letter from Dr. ZZZ submitted with the original petition, and list of journal rankings submitted as Exhibit K with the response to your Request for Evidence.)

Regarding Dr.XXX’s filing of patents, the Denial states that filings resulting from her “co-authorship of a research project,” cannot be accepted as evidence of the originality of her research.

However, Dr. XXX is not a mere co-author of a collaborative research project, but rather the first author and the primary originator of research which served as the basis for her employer’s technology …

The Service also discredits the 14 letters of attestation provided in support of Dr. XXXs petition by high-ranking experts in the field. The reason given is that the writers’ knowledge of the Dr. XXX’s work appears to derive from their collaboration with her on research or with institutions where she has worked, “…rather than the petitioner’s general acclaim.” We submit that a letter attesting to the petitioner’s outstanding ability should not be discounted merely because the writer has collaborated with the petitioner. Two of writers, Professor Y1 and Professor Y2, clearly note that they first came to know of Dr. XXX’s research contributions through her publications or presentations at international conferences.

One of the writers, Nobel Laureate NNN, based his opinion on a presentation Dr. XXX gave concerning her work in MMM….

The Denial further states that the 14 letters of attestation are not evidence sufficient to support a national interest waiver because, if the high opinions expressed are not “widely shared throughout the field, then the petitioner has not achieved widespread acclaim.” We submit that the standard in a national interest waiver case for determining whether the petitioner has had an impact on the field is not “widespread recognition”, but rather the standard elaborated in the leading precedent decision from the Administration Appeals Office (AAO), In the Matter of New York State Dept. of Transportation, I.D. 3633 (Acting Assoc. Comm. for Programs, August 7, 1998). The decision states:

“…the national interest waiver hinges on prospective national benefit…. The inclusion of the term ‘prospective’ is used here to require future contributions by alien rather than to facilitate the entry of an alien with no demonstrable prior achievements, and whose benefit to the national interest would thus be entirely speculative.”

Nowhere does the decision require the establishment of “achievements that are widely shared and recognized throughout the field,” as does the Service in its Denial. We submit that the proper standard is articulated by the AAO in footnote 6 of its decision:

"The alien, however, must have established in some capacity, the ability to serve the national interest to a substantially greater degree than the majority of his colleagues.... The Service here does not seek a quantified threshold of experience or education, but rather a past history of demonstrable achievement with some degree of influence on the field as a whole."

The evidence provided establishes that Dr. XXX meets this standard …
. The record shows that she has made significant original scholarly research contributions in developing breakthrough assay technologies, that she has numerous publications in top journals in the field, that she has been invited to judge of the work of others by top journals, and that she is the primary author on several U.S. patent filings for important new technology. On this basis we submit that she “significantly exceeds the average or mean level of impact” in her field even if the Service doesn’t find that this evidence establishes “widespread acclaim” such as might justifiably be required of a petitioner in an Extraordinary Ability case.

Lastly, the Denial states that Dr. XXX request for a national interest waiver “appears to be primarily based on the general argument, that the country needs this type of work conducted and that the self-petitioner’s work will be successful.” In fact, the petition is based on evidence that Dr. XXX clearly and substantially exceeds the median for researchers in her field and that her work will directly and immediately benefit the U.S. national interest. Certainly the Service should not undermine the integrity of the labor certification process by granting an exemption to every alien who can demonstrate some remote potential benefit to the national interest. However neither should such exemptions be limited only to aliens with “widespread acclaim.”

In times such as these when the threat of chemical or biological attack by terrorist groups is greatly increased, the U.S. does indeed need Dr.XXX’s expertise
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Of course OR is better.. but you need a reliable employer for that!
My company was not stable, and they run out of money couple of months after my denial.... that is why I transfered to a good university where I am now, in order to file another I-140 as OR whem here... but since appeal was approved, I did not need it....
 
Thank you, Compass, for sharing some of your information in this board. It is really helpful since I am preparing the appeal now.
From your case and my own case, I feel the Service centers still use the EA standards to deny NIW. But, At least, there is a slight chance that AAO can correct it.
 
My appeal is due on 11/21.
I like to file another one, not NIW, thinking EA. I heard you cannot file a new case in same category while appealing the old one. Is that true?
I might take months to collect the docs for the new case. Immigration takes us a lot of time, which could be used otherwise in meaningful things.
 
Joo77,
I am not sure if you can file in same category while appeal is pending.. but for sure you can file several I-140's under different categories (maybe only one - or none - with I-485, not to have several I-485's).
I think next I-140 will take much less time, everything is basically same, just change rec.letters (minor changes - replace "NIW" words with "EA" or "OR" words).
When my lawyer offered me to help with a second I-140, he told he would give me 50% fee discount since basically things are very similar...
Good luck to you!
 
AAO also has processing times depending on the case, posted on web, in my case proc.time was 8 months but actually took approx 6 months..
 
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