A backup strategy - Canada is immigrant friendly

Thank you. Good luck.

Hi,
Thanks for sharing that, but I'd rather go to my home country if things don't work out in the US. I lived in Canada already for a year - sluggish economy, no incentives for entrepeneurial individuals. Just my opinion.
 
no way to canada ;-)

Guys no way to canada. marlon ur right, My home country's growth is MUCH better. Also Canada is a POOR paymaster and COLD as hell!!
 
Nozdam, I forgot the cold. I spent time in both the West and East there. Toronto is too cold for me. Vancouver is rainy and depressing for my wife.

No offense to anyone, but in my experience there I noticed that a number of people I talked in Canada were obsessed with the US; people used to criticize the US claiming that I would be likely unwelcome and discriminated in the US in general, especifically in Seattle, WA, etc. I know that well being is subjective, but looking back now, my perception is that many Canadians I talked were jealous and with a strange obsession against the US.

I am just reporting my point of view since this is a forum and what this is about. For those who want to hear only positive things about Canada, go to www.canada.org
 
heard that too

i have heard that too Marlon. Canadians are in general jealous of the US, coz ppl here make more money etc. But the MOST imp factor is COLD. Wayyyy too cold for me (and i actually LIKE cold).
 
my friend is in canada since 3 years, waiting for his citizenship so that he can come to usa on TN visa....and get back into his original profession which is IT, instead of the semi IT-clerical work he is having to do now....

guys....one can go anywhere in the world...provided there are enough jobs.....(plenty jobs means, good economy, means secure environment, means decent life ...etc..)
 
I talked to my friend yesterday. He was born in Canada, he lives in Vancouver, BC and he is an IT professional. He is struggling to get jobs there. He tells me is applying for jobs like crazy in the US, but since he already spent one year on TN visa alrady and H1B sponsors are kind of getting scarce, he is having difficulties to come to the US.

I would follow the same motion:I'd rather go to my home country and spend time with relatives than going to face cold without career rewards in Canada. I can't stand the politics slow pace and socialist rethorics there. The bureocracy in Canada drives me nuts.

Usually young, professional and ambitious people don't benefit a lot from countries like Canada. Perhaps UK would be a better option.
 
Help

Thanks for starting this thread. I have some doubt. Appreciate if some one answer, even it is little personal.

I have applied Canada PR as a backup to US, when my LC was pending at DOL. Luckily my LC was approved, just before they ship the LC to BEC and I could file I-140(EB2-India) & 485. My 140 was approved and 485 is pending due to retrogression.

On Canada side, my application was recently approved and they are asking US$1700, to land in Canada. Canada is my secondary or last option, if US GC fails for some reason.

What is your advise?. Should I drop Canada effort?. My concern is spending $1700, if it is not required. I am not in IT job.
 
I would like to share my views about Canada. I lived in Canada for 8 years (in greater Toronto area) and now a Canadian citizen. My feeling is that visible minority professionals experience some discrimination in the professional fields in Canada. However, living standard in Canada is same as in USA. In my opinion the health care system is better in Canada than in USA. I am waiting for an EB1 green card with approved I-140 and India retrogression (born in India). However, I may go back to Canada if my I-485 is not approved till middle of 2006.

TN1 - 03/2003
H1B – 03/2005
I140 (EB1) applied 04/15/2005
I140 approved 06/15/2005
I485 RD 05/27/2005
Biometrics 07/01/2007
FP RD 07/12/2005
LUD 07/14/2005
 
EB104152005 said:
I would like to share my views about Canada. I lived in Canada for 8 years (in greater Toronto area) and now a Canadian citizen. My feeling is that visible minority professionals experience some discrimination in the professional fields in Canada. However, living standard in Canada is same as in USA. In my opinion the health care system is better in Canada than in USA. I am waiting for an EB1 green card with approved I-140 and India retrogression (born in India). However, I may go back to Canada if my I-485 is not approved till middle of 2006.

TN1 - 03/2003
H1B – 03/2005
I140 (EB1) applied 04/15/2005
I140 approved 06/15/2005
I485 RD 05/27/2005
Biometrics 07/01/2005
FP RD 07/12/2005
LUD 07/14/2005
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Money makes the mare go!

Guys there is a considerable difference in pay standards of Canada and the US. That is the main reason why ppl prefer working in the US and not in Canada. US is the best mix of money fun and safe enviroment.

My thought is:
Canada has the safety but no money and not much fun (6 months Cold as hell)
Australia: Has safety and fun but not much money.
UK: Fun safe and some money, but discrimination against minorities and too expensive, cancels out the money aspect.
Gulf: Has money but not too much safety and has some fun.
Home countries: (mine atleast) Money and fun, just a touch too hot :)

That is my opinion atleast
 
To me racial discrimination exists in Canada in professional field. I think that if I get green card then my professional developments would be better in USA. However, it is becoming too much stressful in getting the green card. So I think that I will have to make a compromise between the stress and an easier life with some discrimination.
 
can_card if your PD is after jan 2003 (means it can take 2-3 years more, but since your 485 is in, you are almost employer independent), you may have to weigh the option of what you want to do in worst situations.....go back to home country or go to canada....to buy some time.

If i were you, i think i would have invested this money, for a backup just in case....

but the other question is how often one is supposed to visit canada to maintain immigrations status?
 
After getting the Canadian PR, you cannot leave Canada for more than 180 days. I learned that crossing the borders coming from the US doesn't cut it. Many times I drove to Canada and the Canadian immigration officer asked where I lived. When I started explaining the situation and that I was working "temporarily" in the US and I had plans to come back to Canada soon, the immigration officer never bought that and warned me I would lose my Canadian PR doing this border crossing thing.

Then I gave up from going to Canada since it is a hassle listening to lectures every single freaking time I cross the borders.



techy2468 said:
can_card if your PD is after jan 2003 (means it can take 2-3 years more, but since your 485 is in, you are almost employer independent), you may have to weigh the option of what you want to do in worst situations.....go back to home country or go to canada....to buy some time.

If i were you, i think i would have invested this money, for a backup just in case....

but the other question is how often one is supposed to visit canada to maintain immigrations status?
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It should be a no brainer not to go to Canada.

1. The salaries there are much lower.
2. Taxes are higher.
3. Opportunities are scarce.
4. Weather is harsh.

I am living in the UK for the last two years for that PR.I had studied and worked in America before this,I absolutely loved it in the US.Had to move back to India due to my family situation then... my total stay there being for 5 years.

Problems in the UK:
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1. Very bad weather (you have to see it to believe it).
2. Very expensive to keep a car( that means carrying groceries...I had one even as a student in the US...esp miss my new accord that I had in the US).
The govt here actually discouranges you to keep a car.
3. Lower salaries
4. Very high taxes.
5. Very congested country.

6. Unless you get a job in the big banks the salaries are much lower.Also companies dont work on cutting edge technologies nor are they innovating...they are just old shops with IT depts.... lower salaries mean
that you need to take a cut from your lifestyle. As an example a litre of petrol (not a gallon) is £1. A meal at McDonalds is £5 ....average IT salary in UK for 3-5 yrs is 35-40k...which is 2200 after tax.....and a cheap 1 bed apartment is £600+£100 council tax....

7. Savings here are 50-70% of US savings.

8. Lack of growth in the companies (they dont have the go-get-it attitude of the Americans). That also means that your IT skills will get out dated soon.


But the good points
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1. You get PR after 4 years of working here.
2. You get UK citizenship after 1 year of PR.
3. Higher job security than in America, where your job is dependant on Interest rates.
4. A lot of resemblence with India.Govt offices are like those in India....(This can be good or bad depending on what you think)

Overall.... once you live in US...its a drag to live in UK...

Now I am thinking, that we are taking such a cut from our lifestyle that we could enjoy in India .....if its really worth it....and on top of that, these lousy winters.... :confused:
 
Techy2468,
If your last question is to me, I am now a Canadian citizen and so I can be out of Canada for any length of time and can go back there at any time. In the old PR rule, to keep the PR status one could not be out of Canada for more than six months and then had to live in Canada for at least for six month. I think that rule has changed now.
 
Toronto?

Anyone here from Toronto?

Just wanted to know the job scene in this city. Online searches do not show as many leads!

Also, why is Canada not as encouraging for entrepreneurs?

Thanks,

S.
 
Thanks for your post and good luck in the UK ! After reading this information, just confirmed my perceptions that the UK is not for me.

sgaurav45 said:
It should be a no brainer not to go to Canada.

1. The salaries there are much lower.
2. Taxes are higher.
3. Opportunities are scarce.
4. Weather is harsh.

I am living in the UK for the last two years for that PR.I had studied and worked in America before this,I absolutely loved it in the US.Had to move back to India due to my family situation then... my total stay there being for 5 years.

Problems in the UK:
-------------------
1. Very bad weather (you have to see it to believe it).
2. Very expensive to keep a car( that means carrying groceries...I had one even as a student in the US...esp miss my new accord that I had in the US).
The govt here actually discouranges you to keep a car.
3. Lower salaries
4. Very high taxes.
5. Very congested country.

6. Unless you get a job in the big banks the salaries are much lower.Also companies dont work on cutting edge technologies nor are they innovating...they are just old shops with IT depts.... lower salaries mean
that you need to take a cut from your lifestyle. As an example a litre of petrol (not a gallon) is £1. A meal at McDonalds is £5 ....average IT salary in UK for 3-5 yrs is 35-40k...which is 2200 after tax.....and a cheap 1 bed apartment is £600+£100 council tax....

7. Savings here are 50-70% of US savings.

8. Lack of growth in the companies (they dont have the go-get-it attitude of the Americans). That also means that your IT skills will get out dated soon.


But the good points
---------------------
1. You get PR after 4 years of working here.
2. You get UK citizenship after 1 year of PR.
3. Higher job security than in America, where your job is dependant on Interest rates.
4. A lot of resemblence with India.Govt offices are like those in India....(This can be good or bad depending on what you think)

Overall.... once you live in US...its a drag to live in UK...

Now I am thinking, that we are taking such a cut from our lifestyle that we could enjoy in India .....if its really worth it....and on top of that, these lousy winters.... :confused:
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Marlon,

I am an canadian PR and i think u dont have to live in canada for 2 yrs in 5 yrs, where is the 180 days specified, can u please provide the link here.

ciao
-p
 
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