3 years degree EB3, 140 at NSC - please advice

[Sheila R Danzig]

3.5 year degree

If your case is processed in NSC, you will be denied.

3.5 years != 4 years

Did you submit an educational evaluation? SOMEtimes they issue an RFE if no evaluation was sent. Then you can have your 3.5 evaluated as equivalent to a US Bach degree and you will have a good shot at having it accepted.

 

[number30]

If your case is processed in NSC, you will be denied.

3.5 years != 4 years

Do not get confused. it is not about 3.5 = 4. What they say total number of years to attain the Bachelore's degree.

In this case it 10+3+3.5 which is greater the 16 years. If the total number of years of education is sole criteria he is worried about it should not be a problem.

 

[Sheila R Danzig]

16 years or 4 year bachelors equivalency?

Do not get confused. it is not about 3.5 = 4. What they say total number of years to attain the Bachelore's degree.

In this case it 10+3+3.5 which is greater the 16 years. If the total number of years of education is sole criteria he is worried about it should not be a problem.

If this were true (and I am not saying it is or it isn't because everything is at the discretion of the USCIS agent) then 10+2+3+1(pgd) would be OK and we know it is not. I have seen another with 10+2+3+3 get a Denial when the two 3's were combined. It is not about the total # of years - it is about having a single source degree equivalency to a US bachelor's degree, without combining.

 

[number30]

If this were true (and I am not saying it is or it isn't because everything is at the discretion of the USCIS agent) then 10+2+3+1(pgd) would be OK and we know it is not. I have seen another with 10+2+3+3 get a Denial when the two 3's were combined. It is not about the total # of years - it is about having a single source degree equivalency to a US bachelor's degree, without combining.

You are again confused with Indian education system here.

The issue of 10+2+3+1 is related combination of degrees. Here degree is issued at the end 15 years of education

He does not have the combination of degrees. The entrance requirement for graduation is 12 years of education. This 12 years consists of 10 years( usually known as SSC or SSLC) and 2 years known HSC or PUC. But here in his case what he has done is course of 3 years(usually called as Diploma) in lieu of 2 years of HSC. He has admitted tp a four years degree course with 6 months worth of credit obtained from the three years of education. So it is essentially a four year degree which is issued at the end of 16 years of education.

So it should not be problem.

 

[stillwaiiting]

I thought ANY DIPLOMA may it "Computer related" or "Post Graduate Degrees" are NOT considered "SINGLE DEGREE" and are NOT acceptable @ Service Centers.

 

[tpranav]

I thought ANY DIPLOMA may it "Computer related" or "Post Graduate Degrees" are NOT considered "SINGLE DEGREE" and are NOT acceptable @ Service Centers.

I am not equating my 3yrs diploma to "SINGEL DEGREE" but my Bachelor Degree which is 3.5 yrs course that I completed after my Diploma.


Thanks,

-Thiru

 

[Sheila R Danzig]

Diploma vs Degree

I thought ANY DIPLOMA may it "Computer related" or "Post Graduate Degrees" are NOT considered "SINGLE DEGREE" and are NOT acceptable @ Service Centers.

We have had diplomas accepted as equivalent to a US degree, when properly evaluated. The 2 or more year PGD (D=Diploma) is often evaluated to a Master's degree. We have had 3 and 4 year diploma's evaluated and accepted as equivalent to a US bachelor's degree. It is complex but do-able.

In this case it is the 3.5 year degree, not the diploma, that is being used.

 

[number30]

I thought ANY DIPLOMA may it "Computer related" or "Post Graduate Degrees" are NOT considered "SINGLE DEGREE" and are NOT acceptable @ Service Centers.

Again you should not go with number of years in the degree itself. It is total numbers of education required to attain that degree.
As name indicates it is post graduate diploma in which graduation is acquired at the 15th year of education and you are combining anther year to show the 16 years of education, But Degree itself is not issued at the end of 16 years. That makes a combination of degrees to show it for equivalence.


Person in the question has a degree, which is issued at the end of 16 years of education. Most of the trade degrees in India awarded at the end of 16 years of education. Problem is only with non-trade degrees. It is not combination Hence it should be acceptable.

 

[Sheila R Danzig]

# of years?

Again you should not go with number of years in the degree itself. It is total numbers of education required to attain that degree.
As name indicates it is post graduate diploma in which graduation is acquired at the 15th year of education and you are combining anther year to show the 16 years of education, But Degree itself is not issued at the end of 16 years. That makes a combination of degrees to show it for equivalence.


Person in the question has a degree, which is issued at the end of 16 years of education. Most of the trade degrees in India awarded at the end of 16 years of education. Problem is only with non-trade degrees. It is not combination Hence it should be acceptable.

It is not the total number of years that they look at alone. The degree in questions (3.5 years) needs to be evlauated ON ITS OWN (single source degree evaluation for all I-140 cases) as equivalent to a US bachelor's degree. All they need is an evaluaton of the 3.5 year degree which may be simplet than an evaluation of a 3 year degree.

 

[Brittany Spears]

MY 140 appoved at TSC- BSC+GNIIT

HI
My 140 got approved at TSC today after they sent an RFE to send credential evaluation.....MY BSC +GNIIT got evaluated as US Bachelors with dual majors in COmputers and chemistry. My best friend with the same qualification got aprroved too 8 months back,so I was pretty confident mine will get approved too. Now I got my evaluation done from Trustforte which charges merely $80 but since i wanted express ie same day, i paid $200. Also I paid my lawyer $15 to send it by overnite mail and it reached USCIS the next day....All in all my efforts paid offf...
Please dont worry about combintaion degree.. Me and my friend are real live cases where combination degree worked and that too by a evaluation which was so cheap...Thank god I didnt shell a thousand bucks for an expensive evaluation....
And one more suggestion to UN. You have been a great help...IF anyone comes with such query I suggest you tell them about my case which got approved today....
I have been a thorough reader of all the forums and I found it very suspicious to find some posts ...I feel there is a evaluation agency which has a marketting scam here on this fourm and in another fourms..
SO you guys tensed about your evalutaion...beware...of such evaluation agency...Be wise and decide.
brittany

I thought ANY DIPLOMA may it "Computer related" or "Post Graduate Degrees" are NOT considered "SINGLE DEGREE" and are NOT acceptable @ Service Centers.

 

[riz_arsh]

HI
My 140 got approved at TSC today after they sent an RFE to send credential evaluation.....MY BSC +GNIIT got evaluated as US Bachelors with dual majors in COmputers and chemistry. My best friend with the same qualification got aprroved too 8 months back,so I was pretty confident mine will get approved too. Now I got my evaluation done from Trustforte which charges merely $80 but since i wanted express ie same day, i paid $200. Also I paid my lawyer $15 to send it by overnite mail and it reached USCIS the next day....All in all my efforts paid offf...
Please dont worry about combintaion degree.. Me and my friend are real live cases where combination degree worked and that too by a evaluation which was so cheap...Thank god I didnt shell a thousand bucks for an expensive evaluation....
And one more suggestion to UN. You have been a great help...IF anyone comes with such query I suggest you tell them about my case which got approved today....
I have been a thorough reader of all the forums and I found it very suspicious to find some posts ...I feel there is a evaluation agency which has a marketting scam here on this fourm and in another fourms..
SO you guys tensed about your evalutaion...beware...of such evaluation agency...Be wise and decide.
brittany

Please let us know if your I-140 was filed in EB2 or EB3 ?

 

[tammy2]

It is not the total number of years that they look at alone. The degree in questions (3.5 years) needs to be evlauated ON ITS OWN

You are wrong here. It is question of 16 years.
It was always equated 10+3+3 To US Bachelors. NSC has accepted it several times in past without any special evaluations. 10+3+3.5 should be ok.

 

[Brittany Spears]

filed in EB2
BSC +Gniit +5 yrs expericence(after both qualification achieved)

Please let us know if your I-140 was filed in EB2 or EB3 ?

 

[talktome]

Message for Brittany Spears..

Hi,

First congratulations on getting your I-140 approved...

I have few questions and will appreciate if you could provide your inputs on these:

1. What was mentioned in Box 14 & Box 15 of your ETA750A?

I mean on your Labor Certification Application. Was it mentioned Bachelors with 4 years of College Degree or (Bachelors or Equivalent).

2. Did you get your Educational Equivalence done for the academic evaluation or Course-by-Course Evaluation?

I got it done in July 2000. I have done a 3 year Diploma in Electronics Engineering and a 1 year Diploma in Computers (not GNIIT).

My Academic Evaluation came out as "Educational Equivalent in the United States: BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN ELECTRONIC ENGINEERING AND COMPUTER SCIENCE"

Do you think my case will have any issues? My case is still in PBEC.

3. Will NSC view the application differently from TSC?

Thanks

 

[stillwaiiting]

NSC denies pretty much everything and TSC is more lenient and approves. One of my friends had B.Com (15 years) is working in IT and approved in EB2 @ TSC.

Goal is to get Permanent Residency but different policies, rules and regulations.

Bottom line is NSC has its own rules just deny everything so is AAO.

 

[waiting_legally]

WOW, congratulations brittany,

Pls take a momemnt, if you can tell us what was written on part 14 & 15 of your ETA 750. My attorney says, to get TSC/NSC accept combinations of work/education, it must be mentioned on the LC beforehand.

thanks

mine- BSC+GNIIT+5yrs exp- EB3, 140 sent last week to NSC, didnt receive receipt yet.

filed in EB2
BSC +Gniit +5 yrs expericence(after both qualification achieved)

 

[Brittany Spears]

MY ETA had mention qualification:- Bachelors
Majors:- Physics/chemistry/computer science
My lawyer never mentioned anything about combination of degrees etc...I reconfirmed this wiht her ..
premon

WOW, congratulations brittany,

Pls take a momemnt, if you can tell us what was written on part 14 & 15 of your ETA 750. My attorney says, to get TSC/NSC accept combinations of work/education, it must be mentioned on the LC beforehand.

thanks

mine- BSC+GNIIT+5yrs exp- EB3, 140 sent last week to NSC, didnt receive receipt yet.

 

[Brittany Spears]

Hi,

First congratulations on getting your I-140 approved...

I have few questions and will appreciate if you could provide your inputs on these:

1. What was mentioned in Box 14 & Box 15 of your ETA750A?

I mean on your Labor Certification Application. Was it mentioned Bachelors with 4 years of College Degree or (Bachelors or Equivalent).

My answer "Bachelors"

2. Did you get your Educational Equivalence done for the academic evaluation or Course-by-Course Evaluation?

My answer:- I just did the normal evaluation from trustforte which costs 80$ and smae day service costs $250 with overnite mail

I got it done in July 2000. I have done a 3 year Diploma in Electronics Engineering and a 1 year Diploma in Computers (not GNIIT).

My Academic Evaluation came out as "Educational Equivalent in the United States: BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN ELECTRONIC ENGINEERING AND COMPUTER SCIENCE"

Do you think my case will have any issues? My case is still in PBEC.

My anwer:- Frankly speaking ,I dont see any problem in your case....I understand your fear..I just wnet thru the same fear until today...But I would like to let you know..tht there are some fake people on this fourm trying to scare us by mentioning theri I40 got denied so that we shoudl go for an expensive evalutaion....
Its all upto you to decide....


3. Will NSC view the application differently from TSC?
I dont see why they should see your case indiffernetly[/FONT]
Thanks

 

[stillwaiiting]

NSC would have denied it without RFE. That's what they do. TSC does not care.
Many of us are victims of biased officers.

3. Will NSC view the application differently from TSC?

Thanks

 

[Sheila R Danzig]

Nsc / Tsc

NSC would have denied it without RFE. That's what they do. TSC does not care.
Many of us are victims of biased officers.

Please note (I posted this elsehwhere) a week or so ago I was sent a DENIAL from TSC for a combined degree (3 year bach + pgd). No RFE was issued, just a denial.
Something may be changing at TSC.