3 year degree

tsnaresh

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Hi All,

are there any I140 approvals with 3 year degree plus 1 year certification course (when labor cert says bachelor degree or equivalent)? I am noticing service centers are not accepting combination of degree for bachelor's equivalency. I see lot of I140 denials on this basis but I would like to know if there are any approvals.

Thanks.
 
I am in the same boat , i have a three year degree and 3 year certificate course. Got a RFE in my case for education evaluation in the month of may answered in june but not got any decision yet waiting for a decision.

will let you know when i have a result.
 
Hi,

Mine is a similar case. I have a 3 years degree, plus 2 years PG diploma. I got an RFE for companies financials(RFE not yet replied to..still waiting for some documents from company side), but not for education. I am keeping my fingers crossed that I will not get a furthor RFE for education.

I talked to my lawyer and he said that if the lawyer takes precautions and specifically mentions in labour that combination of degrees is acceptrable, then a RFE can be avoided.

sertra2002
 
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you r right

sertra2002,

You are right, if the labor cert has that provision. But I noticed even without that provision some cases are approved and some got rejected. The service centers are not inconsistent with decision. I am getting the impression that it all depends on the reviewing officer than any predetermined policy (which is scary).
 
Dealing with a "Bachelor's Degree or Equivalent" Formulation

Dealing with a "Bachelor's Degree or Equivalent" Formulation

One way to reconcile the inconsistency is to require the job to have a baccalaureate degree "or equivalent" on the labor certification. However, if the employer plans to rely on the "or equivalent" formula, he or she should define what is meant by equivalent experience. For instance, in one case, the petitioner, a computer consulting firm, sought to employ the beneficiary as a senior analyst/programmer. The Form ETA-750 indicated that the position required a bachelor's degree in computer science, computer communication systems, or related field, or equivalent experience. The director denied the petition because he determined that the petitioner had not established that the beneficiary had the equivalent of a U.S. baccalaureate degree in the enumerated fields. On appeal, counsel for petitioner submitted documentation to establish that the beneficiary had a combination of education and experience to meet the requirements set forth in ETA-750 prior to the filing date. The AAO dismissed the appeal, finding that the petitioner had not specified what was meant by "equivalent experience," and that the actual minimum requirements could have been clarified or changed before the ETA-750 was certified by the DOL [4].

Many practitioners define "or equivalent" according to the H-1B formulation-3 years of experience is equal to one year of education. However, relying on this formulation and substituting twelve years of experience for a US bachelor's degree may often be rejected by the DOL as being too restrictive as well as exceeding the educational and training requirements for the position [5]. Even if there is a way to justify this, DOL objects to the usage of "or equivalent" as the advertisement is targeted toward US workers and not foreign workers. If the bachelor "or equivalent" degree requirement can be included and defined in the labor certification application, an BCIS Service Center may be more amenable to approving the EB-3 petition. For example, in a petition for an "information engineering consultant," the petitioner, a provider of computer-related professional services, specifically stated in the ETA-750, that it would consider candidates without a B.S. degree in computer science that possess ten years of work experience. The AAO granted the petition, because the requirements on the labor certification included an alternative requirement of experience, which the beneficiary demonstrated [6]. It should be noted, however, that the ten years of experience relied upon as an alternative to a US degree falls short by two years under the "3 to 1" formula.

In the event that the BCIS continues to insist that the employee possess a straight foreign degree equivalent, without the work experience component, it can nevertheless be argued that he or she could qualify as an EB-3 skilled worker instead of a professional. For instance, in one case, the BCIS center director had denied the visa preference petition on grounds that the petitioner had not established that the proffered position required the services of a "member of the professions." On appeal, although the AAU found that the director correctly determined that a baccalaureate degree is not the minimum requirement for entry into the position, it held that the center director should have considered the petition under the "skilled worker" classification [7]. If the petition is ultimately approved, the consistency in the job requirements between the H-1B and permanent residency applications is maintained.
 
Has this ever happened??

I have a 3 year degree (Mathematics) + 1 Yr+ diploma.

My Labor was approved a month ago for Bachelor's + 2 years experience. I just heard from my attorney that the Labor doc did not have the 'or equivalent' mentioned and that I cannot substitute my experience (have about 10 years) for the additional 1 year of education.

I have been reading different threads here about how 3 year + diploma applications are getting RFEs and denials (for education equivalency) even with the 'or equivalent' words mentioned in the Labor.

My question is, did you or any of your friends got the 140 approval with 3 Year + Diploma (evaluated by an agency to be considered U.S. Bachelor's) without the 'or equivalent' mentioned in the Labor doc.

My H1 is valid until 3/2005. If I don't hear postive responses, I am planning to start over with another Labor (as a backup) while I apply for this I140.

I'd really appreciate if anyone can share their experience / information or throw some light into this issue.

Thanks all
 
ginnu,

We are aware of that link but service centers are not accepting that as the letter is not binding on them.

Thanks.
 
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