Some Questions about DV 2012.. "Native country mean"

[sogoodtobeture]

Hi ..to all
its great when i found that website..
i have a question..hope to find an answer to it

about the place of birth I was born in Saudi Arabia as my parents were working there , but I only hold Egyptian citizenship , so which country I should put in the form
country of birth (Saudi Arabia) or my citizenship country (Egypt).
P.s i dont hold Saudi passport ...
some people said i can apply with both ..sure to find some answers

 

[sonibago]

You must apply using the country of your birth(native country). DV lottery does not consider country of citizenship for eligibility..just country of BIRTH.
Your birth country is eligible to participate.
It does not matter that you do not have a passport from Saudi Arabia, you just NEED your birth certificate showing that you were born there.

 

[sogoodtobeture]

thanks..

You must apply using the country of your birth(native country). DV lottery does not consider country of citizenship for eligibility..just country of BIRTH.
Your birth country is eligible to participate.
It does not matter that you do not have a passport from Saudi Arabia, you just NEED your birth certificate showing that you were born there.

great.. but the i dont even have a Saudi passport i'm Egyptian and so are my two parents it just happens i was born there..and i dont have a birth certificate from Saudi Arabia
however my Egyptian birth certificate says i was born in Saudi Arabia..
its so confusing..
i mean if i win it do i have to conduct the interview with my egyptian passport or what..

 

[sonibago]

It does not matter what citizenship/passport you have, if you win you can use your Egyptian passport. If I were you, I would try and get a Saudi birth certificate though. I'm curious, how did you get an Egyptian birth certificate if you weren't born there?

 

[sogoodtobeture]

It does not matter what citizenship/passport you have, if you win you can use your Egyptian passport. If I were you, I would try and get a Saudi birth certificate though. I'm curious, how did you get an Egyptian birth certificate if you weren't born there?

well my Egyptian birth certificate says that i was born in Saudi Arabia..and my parents is Egyptians .. it just happen i was born in Saudi while they were working there
and Saudi arabai dont issue birth certificate for non Citizen ... and i'm Egyptian only..
thats why its confusing me..

 

[sonibago]

well you just have to use your Egyptian birth certificate if you win, it should be sufficient evidence. Remember though to list saudi arabia as your country of birth, don't make it more complicated than it already is...

 

[sogoodtobeture]

well you just have to use your Egyptian birth certificate if you win, it should be sufficient evidence. Remember though to list saudi arabia as your country of birth, don't make it more complicated than it already is...

so i have to put Saudi Arabia as my eligibility country for the program.. and hope for the best...
well thanks for the input.. most of the people said to me the same.. and they said Egyptian birth certificate says where i born is enough..

 

[judasgaga]

This probably makes me ineligible

BUT I'm pretty sure the DV instructions say that you can claim EITHER your birth country or your Citizenship (OR the country of your spouse's citizenship).

I was born in a country that does not recognize jus soli citizenship ie only giving citizenship to children of citizens.

travel.state.gov/pdf/1318-DV2012Instructions-ENGL.pdf

Natives of a country whose natives qualify:
"In most cases this means the country which you were born"
However there are 2 other ways you may be able to qualify

First, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible but your spouse was born in a country whose natives are eligible, you can claim your spouse's country of both.

Second, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible, but NEITHER of your parents was born there or resided there at the time of your birth, you may claim nativity in one of your parents' country of birth if it is a country whose natives qualify​

 

[noelle]

BUT I'm pretty sure the DV instructions say that you can claim EITHER your birth country or your Citizenship (OR the country of your spouse's citizenship).

I was born in the UK after they abandoned jus soli so they no longer give citizenship/passport unless one of your parents is a citizen.

travel.state.gov/pdf/1318-DV2012Instructions-ENGL.pdf

Natives of a country whose natives qualify:
"In most cases this means the country which you were born"
However there are 2 other ways you may be able to qualify

First, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible but your spouse was born in a country whose natives are eligible, you can claim your spouse's country of both.

Second, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible, but NEITHER of your parents was born there or resided there at the time of your birth, you may claim nativity in one of your parents' country of birth if it is a country whose natives qualify​

I am having a similar problem too. I had put in my citizenship the country which I am holding my current passport as my native country. However, I was born in another country and both countries are eligible for DV quota. I am not sure if my application is still valid as I have already sent in the forms as instructed. However, I found about that criteria only after I have sent in the forms

I have asked KCC and embassy on this but they have yet to get back to me by email.

Best of luck to us!

 

[brainstorm79]

well, there is an exception regarding people who were born in a different country but never actually lived there. if your parents were only workers in that country and never had a legal status there (except working status) you might be eligible to claim your citizenship country.
You should check that with DV lottery web site, they have instructions regarding that and if i were you, i would consult a good immigration lawyer.