Tri valley university fraud
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No, You believe is worng. TVU every single day's class are recorded, you can check their website for the samples. TVU 39 Instrucotrs can call that definely BS. There are TVU students groups discussion about all of their class meeting an d hws assignments in google and yahoo group, you may want to join to get approved that you are wrong! TVU's class techolgoy is the very advanced one ...
On trackitt somebody from TVU has openly acknowledged that they are frauds (http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussi...t-opt/page/6):
"Many company can not affrod H1 any more ( for H1 there a certain salary uplit in each state), we actually have several partner companies, ask us to conver their employee into F1 so that they can work for them with the entire company's budget cut." (spelling mistakes from the TVU employee.)
In other words, a TVU employee openly admitted to illegally bypassing the H1 regulations by fraudulently using the F1.
The TVU employee also admitted of colluding with employers to depress the wages of employees.
That confirms that TVU is a fraud.
"Many company can not affrod H1 any more ( for H1 there a certain salary uplit in each state), we actually have several partner companies, ask us to conver their employee into F1 so that they can work for them with the entire company's budget cut." (spelling mistakes from the TVU employee.)
In other words, a TVU employee openly admitted to illegally bypassing the H1 regulations by fraudulently using the F1.
The TVU employee also admitted of colluding with employers to depress the wages of employees.
That confirms that TVU is a fraud.
Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNDcCueQ1I
Completely unprofessional, with obsolete technology to boot...
On Trackitt, somebody posted an email from the CA Comsumer Affairs:
Yet another indication that TVU is violating the laws. They can't legally enroll students anymore, and weren't allowed since Jan. 1.
TVU is very clearly a fraudulent organization.
http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums/h1b/512950847/tri-valley-university-cpt-opt/page/11
Yet another indication that TVU is violating the laws. They can't legally enroll students anymore, and weren't allowed since Jan. 1.
TVU is very clearly a fraudulent organization.
Sameer_jaju
Registered Users (C)
TVU is legal
Who told you they can't enroll students legally? How come students get F1 visa from other countries then? May be they do not have accrediation, it does not mean that they will never have. Why people don't understand that it is in process? Well unless people have proof they can't say it is fraud or not. If it is fraud, how come they can issue I-20 forms then?
Well I don't see any problem unless they have some serious violation of rules. Do you think those who started university , they are dumb fellows and don't know how to run it? lolz.... TVU is not fraud but legal. Admitting to TVU is personal choice.
I don't know why people are so crazy and try to be judgemental about everything....hahahaha
Who told you they can't enroll students legally? How come students get F1 visa from other countries then? May be they do not have accrediation, it does not mean that they will never have. Why people don't understand that it is in process? Well unless people have proof they can't say it is fraud or not. If it is fraud, how come they can issue I-20 forms then?
Well I don't see any problem unless they have some serious violation of rules. Do you think those who started university , they are dumb fellows and don't know how to run it? lolz.... TVU is not fraud but legal. Admitting to TVU is personal choice.
I don't know why people are so crazy and try to be judgemental about everything....hahahaha
The email came from CA Consumer Affairs. That's the law in California. It is about TVU's religious exemption. The law has changed, and until a new application is approved, they are not allowed under California law to accept new students, starting from Jan. 1, 2010.
TVU illegally admits students, and illegally issues I-20s.
Under California law, TVU is NOT allowed to admit students since Jan. 1, 2010.
That is irrelevant. Under California's religious exemption laws, they have to have new APPROVAL to be allowed to admit students.
They are doing this illegally.
And students who get an F1 visa based on the illegal admission and I-20 are going to be in lots and lots of trouble.
They do have a serious violation of the rules. Under California law, TVU is prohibited since Jan. 1, 2010 from admitting students.
They know how to commit fraud.
And yes, fraudsters are by definition dumb.
Like all fraudsters, they only think they are smart and won't get caught. After all, would a foreign student complain?
TVU is NOT allowed to admit students, since TVU does not have religious exemption under California laws. Plain and simple.
And the only person judgmental is you.
TVU is a fraud. And people who sign up with TVU are at very high risk to get deported.
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Concerned4us
Banned
It is foolish for a student to attend a university with the promise that someday it will be accredited. Any degree you receive while it is not accredited will not receive the accreditation retroactively.
Most people who sign up with TVU don't really care about the degree. They go to TVU to get CPT, to work. Since TVU can't admit victims (sorry, students) since Jan. 1, 2010, they can't legally issue I-20s despite still having SEVP approval. So people using a CPT from TVU are in big trouble.
And of course, getting CPT to work in an arbitrary job is illegal to begin with, so I believe that quite a number of people who sign up with TVU are willing participants in the fraud. That of course isn't looked nicely upon by the authorities, either.
So, are you the person who's email to Ms. Su, the owner of TVU, is quoted on Trackitt?
You paid money to these fraudsters, and now you of course try to save face. But it is too late for that.
The answer Ms. Su gave you is a big fat fairy tale.
There is no "consulanty" (her spelling). For example, I am just a private citizen who got offended by TVU advertising an obvious fraud, and who investigated things on his own.
The "rumor" about TVU is true. TVU is a criminal organization. TVU fraudulently issues I-20s.
Sameer_jaju
Registered Users (C)
Well I never emailed to any owner of TVU. I even don't know owner untill now, I just saw information on website about the staff. Well you said TVU fradulently issues I-20 forms.. Well I don't know about that but my question is how come students from different countries are getting visas then. How come American consulate did not investigate it before they gave SEVIS approval. Well I know most of the universities who are behind gas stattion or right next to dollar tree, ppl got I-20 , have CPT and got H1 b too... yea they are approved ( or accrediate) by some accrediation agencies.. and their course is not so developed.. How come .. why u are not after them too.. why don;t you find them too.. just they have higher fees.. lolz
Concerned4us
Banned
I realize this is the primary goal. I hope they get shut down for fraud!
Unfortunately, there are legitimate students who have less than perfect credentials that are also being victimized. This is especially true if they are outside the US and unfamiliar with the US educational system. I hope that we can also educate them as the important things to look for during a search. There are potential institutions for them that will be accredited and actually cost less than these scams.
These scam institutions also take advantage of USC students; I personally know several young people who have spent a lot of money and have degrees that are worthless in the business world. One in particular was advised not to enroll where he did by me and my spouse. It is so sad
SEVP doesn't know that TVU is not allowed to admit students anymore.
Consulates don't give SEVIS approval. And unfortunately, US consulates don't have the man power to do investigate on their own.
They haven't crossed my path. I have other things to do than to find fake universities. That would be a lifetime occupation.
TVU personnel posted here and on other forums, essentially advertising their fraud. As I said, fraudsters are dumb. Fraudsters who advertise their fraud, drawing attention to them, are REALLY dumb. Realizing that TVU is obviously a fraud, I and others started to look closer, and are warning people about them. What differs from other cases is that TVU personnel then started to insult us. Yet another sign of how really stupid they are. The thread at Trackitt about TVU has now attracted quite a lot of attention, so much that people check with the authorities, like the California government's Department of Consumer Affairs, which handles religious exemptions for educational institutes (what TVU used to legally operate, despite lack of accreditation.) And the CA Department of Consumer Affairs has now made clear that TVU is under California law not allowed to admit new students, since Jan. 1, 2010.
I point out other fake universities when people ask about them, e.g., UNVA. But this thread is about TVU. If you want to talk about other fake universities, create a different thread.
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Sameer_jaju
Registered Users (C)
You said, " Realizing that TVU is obviously a fraud, I and others started to look closer, and are warning people about them." On what basis you claim that they are fraud? You are just coming with your own terms. Who needs your social service by the way.. You mentioned, "TVU personnel then started to insult us. Yet another sign of how really stupid they are", now who did you speak with from TVU and how did you confirm they are university personnel? Now you are speaking against TVU, so is that ok for us to assume that your consultancy was rejected or your referral program was rejected by TVU and you are taking revenge for that? Why don't you contact Tri Valley and ask them by yourself to confirm what do they actauuly do?
Well I observed one thing, you have very limited knowledge of CPT ( how is it issued, I read your posts on murthy forums too). I understand using CPT to do some arbitrarily job is abuse like enrolling in non IT major and working for a pure s/w company is cheating, I agree with this part. The one thing you always mention is CPT should be integral part of curriculum, now you does not seem to get this part. I have seen universities ( accrediated , approved and having very very big campus), they allow CPT after taking a look at job description and make sure that job is in same field as of major, nowhere they check if it is integral part of curriculum and neither it is requirement to get CPT. I know many universities who have been operating since long time, they don't always look if CPT is intergal part of curriculum. Once a person gets job opprotunity, CPT is issued after taking a careful look if that is in same field or not. In my case I never had CPT in my life. My friends took the same courses as I did, they were more interested in practical experience where I was more focued on research. Nowhere getting practical experience in other company was requirement for their degree or coursework and neither it was part of their courses or curriculum. On top of that what courses they studied towards degree has nothing to do with practical experience for CPT, but it was in same field.
If USICS is ready to give CPT from first day then why is it trouble for anyone? I agree that CPT can't be used for some random jobs, which is clealry CPT abuse.
You see, your last sentence reveals that you are affiliated with TVU.
I had no need whatsoever to "come up with my own terms".
Point 1: A non-accredited organization is suspicious to begin with.
Point 2: Degrees from a non-accredited organization can NOT be used for an immigration benefit, yet TVU's website claims otherwise. Fraud.
Point 3: A non-accredited university that applies for SEVP has to provide the names of three accredited universities that accept transfers from the non-accredited organization. TVU's degrees aren't accepted by any accredited university. Despite multiple requests, TVU has not given anybody the names of these universities. Ergo, fraud.
Point 4: TVU has had religious exemption in California. The CA laws have changed last year, requiring such organizations to re-apply for religious exemption. Until such application is approved, TVU is not allowed by California law to accept new students, since the law came into effect on Jan. 1, 2010. Yet, TVU officials boast of getting new students all the time. See the large thread on trackitt. The person posting there under the handle "RisingSun" is a TVU official and speaks for TVU there. Ergo, fraud.
Case closed. TVU is a fraudulent organization.
TVU is illegally admitting students, TVU is illegally issuing I-20s to students. That makes TVU a criminal organization.
And due to the FACT that the I-20s are illegal, CPT or OPT is also illegal.
And, btw, that CPT is only for work as part of an established curriculum is in the law. Look it up. 8 CFR 214.2(f).
To all the people who think an organization having SEVIS approval makes it safe:
Think again.
Here is a press release from ICE about a fraudulent organization in Florida that had SEVIS approval:
http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1008/100830miami.htm
And people who signed up with TVU will end up getting deported.
Think again.
Here is a press release from ICE about a fraudulent organization in Florida that had SEVIS approval:
http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1008/100830miami.htm
And in particular, read this:
The same thing will happen with the TVU fraud.
And people who signed up with TVU will end up getting deported.