Will this fly

[black_logs]

Guys I have this weird idea. Say if there is 1 rejection in 100 Labors by DOL. FOr 350,000 applications we can assume 3500 rejections. Do you guys think we can convey the Lawmakers that for these 3500 Cases, DOL has been holding 350,000 people hostages for 5-6 years now. It's DOL's fault that they didn't seek enough appropriations in time, why should we pay for this. Shouldn't we ask the lawmakers to waive our LC's. They are talking about giving amnesty to 11 million illegal, how about if they give relief to these 1/2 million people by waiving off the LC's, atleast they are legals and there employers need them tells they are valuable to the country.

 

[Days_go_by]

very difficult

makes sense for us.
But this is like amnesty to legal immigrants.
The basic need for LC is for employer to prove that there is no US citizen to do this job. If they waive our LCs then all the anti-immigrant communities will bombard their leaders that u are letting foreigners free entry.
we have to realize that we do make more money than average americans and many of them are very jealous of us. They would fight it very hard. This is fire, unfortunately. If senators are not willing to consider increasing the quota, forget about this. that is not even amnesty.

And they always have the excuse, hey, wait for another 2 years and all labors would be processed. Or go to PERM. For us, 2 years is very long time, but for them it doesn't matter, they say, u have almost all benfits on H1, if u don't like leave the country.
Friends, we have to realize that none of these politicians, and even employers, is going to do anything for us, till we remain silent. For those of u from India, remember waht Chanakya said, if u want to get something done form someone there are 4 ways,
1) to convince the other person to do it for u. Will DOL ever listen?
2) to bribe/pay and get the work done. Not an option for us, unless u want to do labor subst.
3) to punish or threathen to punish the other person, Lawsuit, media awareness are all along these lines.
4) to exploit difference between two people, not going to work in our situation.

Sorry, for the rant, u make the choice,
Don't expect someone else to fight for u, don't expect someone else to think about ur wellfare. We deserve to be treated better.

 

[sbdol]

Guys I have this weird idea. Say if there is 1 rejection in 100 Labors by DOL. FOr 350,000 applications we can assume 3500 rejections. Do you guys think we can convey the Lawmakers that for these 3500 Cases, DOL has been holding 350,000 people hostages for 5-6 years now. It's DOL's fault that they didn't seek enough appropriations in time, why should we pay for this. Shouldn't we ask the lawmakers to waive our LC's. They are talking about giving amnesty to 11 million illegal, how about if they give relief to these 1/2 million people by waiving off the LC's, atleast they are legals and there employers need them tells they are valuable to the country.

The whole LC process makes no sense to me, at least in case of H1.
The employer asks DOL to allow hiring a foreigner because there are no local candidates available. By letting the employer bringing the alien DOL acknowledges that there is a need for that.

Why does the employer need to go though the DOL again, proving the same thing?

I call this an absolute useless bureaucracy that has the only purpose to justify the existence of foreign certification division of DOL.

By eliminating the LC and leaving only LCA for H1-B the green card process would not change. There still would be 3 stages LCA, I-140 and I485.

 

[black_logs]

But if we start asking for this, wouldn't this highlight the issue, and put the ball in the lawmakers court to do something, as of now we tell them they are slow, the lawmakers tells 'well we know that, you'll get there, hangon'. Now what we are saying 'Enough!!! you do something for us!!!!!'

 

[Sandeep_N]

Guys I have this weird idea. Say if there is 1 rejection in 100 Labors by DOL. FOr 350,000 applications we can assume 3500 rejections. Do you guys think we can convey the Lawmakers that for these 3500 Cases, DOL has been holding 350,000 people hostages for 5-6 years now. It's DOL's fault that they didn't seek enough appropriations in time, why should we pay for this. Shouldn't we ask the lawmakers to waive our LC's. They are talking about giving amnesty to 11 million illegal, how about if they give relief to these 1/2 million people by waiving off the LC's, atleast they are legals and there employers need them tells they are valuable to the country.

If anyone thinks things are moving in DOL Land, read this

The Program Assessment Rating Tool (PART) was developed to assess and improve program performance so that the Federal government can achieve better results. A PART review helps identify a program’s strengths and weaknesses to inform funding and management decisions aimed at making the program more effective. This is what the DOL reviewshows. It is very informative as we come to know that they themselves are admitting serious flaws


Page 211
Is the program design free of major flaws that would limit the program's effectiveness or efficiency?
Answer: NO
Summary
The DOL admits that these are the problems:
- "current process is paper- intensive, duplicative in places, and inefficient"
- "vulnerability to fraud and abuse"
- The whole process is meaningless because "it could be years between the recruitment efforts described in an application to DOL and the time a labor certification issues or the alien adjusts to permanent resident status"
-"the certification itself lacks critical safeguards"

Page 213
Does the program have baselines and ambitious targets for its annual measures?
Answer: NO
"Program goals lack specific, ambitious annual targets. For example, the published backlog reduction targets would not result in elimination of the backlog in two years, as the program currently plans. And the goal to reduce processing time to six months for 90% of applications (currently 32 months) may not be either sufficiently tailored or ambitious for the new automated review process, if processing rates hold true to plan."
Summary
The DOL says that they have promised somethings but it is not doable !!!

Page 213
Are Budget requests explicitly tied to accomplishment of the annual and long- term performance goals, and are the resource needs presented in a complete and transparent manner in the program's budget?
Answer: NO
Like the rest of DOL, ETA does not have an integrated accounting and performance management system to identify the full cost of achieving this program's performance goals and support day- to- day operations.
Summary
The DOL says that they have no idea of how much it will cost. So how are they planning to go ahead and get the resources to clear off all the cases in the BECS?

Page 218
Do independent evaluations of sufficient scope and quality indicate that the program is effective and achieving results?
Answer: SMALL EXTENT
Ongoing stakeholder concerns and findings from program evaluations or OIG audits conducted in years past raise serious questions about the design,management, and accountability of the current program.
Summary
There are a lot of audits saying that there is something seriously wrong

Page 219
"The goal of eliminating the backlog by the end of FY 2006 is a result of an external evaluation conducted in 2002. Lengthy processing times are a majorconcern for program stakeholders. Though the goal is ambitious, there is a disconnect with the published targets, which cover only the state- level backlog of 270,000 cases (not the additional cases pending at the federal level) and would not accomplish the goal within two years."
Summary
Though they have stated that their goal is 2006 there is no way that is going to be true

And inspite of all this the program rates "ADEQUATE" ?

 

[bhatt]

7 years of tax returns shall allow to get the GC.

Guys I have this weird idea. Say if there is 1 rejection in 100 Labors by DOL. FOr 350,000 applications we can assume 3500 rejections. Do you guys think we can convey the Lawmakers that for these 3500 Cases, DOL has been holding 350,000 people hostages for 5-6 years now. It's DOL's fault that they didn't seek enough appropriations in time, why should we pay for this. Shouldn't we ask the lawmakers to waive our LC's. They are talking about giving amnesty to 11 million illegal, how about if they give relief to these 1/2 million people by waiving off the LC's, atleast they are legals and there employers need them tells they are valuable to the country.

Why can't we propose this rule to the lawmakers
7 years of legal status and tax returns shall allow an alien directly apply for green card.
Advantage :
1. As these people are already tested for the work pool No need of LC
2. It can be done as a PILOT project for immigration reform by limiting it for currently who have passed the 7 the year limit
3. USCIS may charge $5000 from each applicant.
4. It will be helpful for who are below the 7the year limit as there will be separate visa pool for the new category
5. It won't cripple USCIS as it won't require 140 files and eliminate the 8the year and beyond extension.
6. It will be good for corporate america, as the corporate need not do anything for the GC process for this category.
7. It will greately reduce the Backlog in BECs
8. There won't be any extra expense related to this. But there will be lot of money saving from this with respect to the goverment
9. This rule is SIMPLE and followed in different countries for decades. In England if you work there for more than 4 years you can
straight away apply for GC

All the people will be benefited from this rule except
The Blood sucking contracting companies.

 

[VKM0622]

7 years of legal status and tax returns shall allow an alien directly apply for GC

Yes, this is good suggestion, so once u have crossed say 6 years and have been tax paying they should get some benifit.
We should forward this to Senator Arlen spectator, he is holding comprehensive immigration reform hearing. U should fax/email me your idea to him, anyway he is senator from PA.

Why can't we propose this rule to the lawmakers
7 years of legal status and tax returns shall allow an alien directly apply for green card.
Advantage :
1. As these people are already tested for the work pool No need of LC
2. It can be done as a PILOT project for immigration reform by limiting it for currently who have passed the 7 the year limit
3. It will be helpful for who are below the 7the year limit as there will be separate visa pool for the new category
4. It won't cripple USICS as it won't require 140 files and eliminate the 8the year and beyond extension.
5. It will be good for corporate america, as the corporate need not do anything for the GC process for this category.
6. It will greately reduce the Backlog in BECs
7. There won't be any extra expense related to this. But there will be lot of money saving from this with respect to the goverment

If any body can come up with more advantages and can convice the law makers in this time of immigration reform, they can start this as Pilot project without much issues. Some of the countries are giving the GC by submitting 3year/4 years of income tax returns like England.

All the people will be benefited from this rule except
The Blook sucking contracting companies.