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Will applying for PIO or OCI affect US Security Clearence
- Thread starter dwijak
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Remember the citizenship oath!
I am not sure which security clearance you are talking about. So I am going to assume that you are talking about the US employment, govt contracts etc.
The answer is - it depends on the scope of the job. If you are talking about basic clearance for computer programming etc. then I don't think it will be a big deal. If it sensitive stuff like State Dept, FBI then it will probably delay you a little bit.
I think you are probably not talking about highly sensitive stuff because you would be more informed than to solicit information in these forums. You would be probably talking to a lawyer or wouldn't even care about OCI or PIO.
But they are unlikely to deny you the security status because of OCI or PIO(which at this point are nothing but glorified multiple entry visas. But remember the US oath the you took. Under any circumstances you are to serve only the US.
Now, if you are worried about some stuff you did in India or US that might effect your application for OCI or PIO, you are required to make those declarations in the application honestly only on the OCI application.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_citizenship#Security_clearance
Nred
I am not sure which security clearance you are talking about. So I am going to assume that you are talking about the US employment, govt contracts etc.
The answer is - it depends on the scope of the job. If you are talking about basic clearance for computer programming etc. then I don't think it will be a big deal. If it sensitive stuff like State Dept, FBI then it will probably delay you a little bit.
I think you are probably not talking about highly sensitive stuff because you would be more informed than to solicit information in these forums. You would be probably talking to a lawyer or wouldn't even care about OCI or PIO.
But they are unlikely to deny you the security status because of OCI or PIO(which at this point are nothing but glorified multiple entry visas. But remember the US oath the you took. Under any circumstances you are to serve only the US.
Now, if you are worried about some stuff you did in India or US that might effect your application for OCI or PIO, you are required to make those declarations in the application honestly only on the OCI application.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_citizenship#Security_clearance
Nred
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For what it is worth, US State Department does agree that OCI is not dual citizenship, but something akin to the US Green Card.
From http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES:
Dual Nationality: In 2006, India launched the "Overseas Citizens of India" (OCI) program, which has often been mischaracterized as a dual nationality program, as it does not grant Indian citizenship. Thus, an American who obtains an OCI card is not a citizen of India and remains a citizen of the United States. An OCI card in reality is similar to a U.S. "green card" in that a holder can travel to and from India indefinitely, work in India, study in India, and own property in India (except for certain agricultural and plantation properties). An OCI holder, however, does not receive an Indian passport, cannot vote in Indian elections and is not eligible for Indian government employment. The OCI program is similar to the Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card introduced by the Indian government several years ago, except that PIO holders must still register with Indian immigration authorities, and PIO cards are not issued for an indefinite period. American citizens of Indian descent can apply for PIO or OCI cards at the Indian Embassy in Washington, or at the Indian Consulates in Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Houston. Inside India, American citizens can apply at the nearest FRRO office (please see “Entry/Exit Requirements” section above for more information on the FRRO). For more information on the OCI program, please see http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=551.
From http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES:
Dual Nationality: In 2006, India launched the "Overseas Citizens of India" (OCI) program, which has often been mischaracterized as a dual nationality program, as it does not grant Indian citizenship. Thus, an American who obtains an OCI card is not a citizen of India and remains a citizen of the United States. An OCI card in reality is similar to a U.S. "green card" in that a holder can travel to and from India indefinitely, work in India, study in India, and own property in India (except for certain agricultural and plantation properties). An OCI holder, however, does not receive an Indian passport, cannot vote in Indian elections and is not eligible for Indian government employment. The OCI program is similar to the Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card introduced by the Indian government several years ago, except that PIO holders must still register with Indian immigration authorities, and PIO cards are not issued for an indefinite period. American citizens of Indian descent can apply for PIO or OCI cards at the Indian Embassy in Washington, or at the Indian Consulates in Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Houston. Inside India, American citizens can apply at the nearest FRRO office (please see “Entry/Exit Requirements” section above for more information on the FRRO). For more information on the OCI program, please see http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=551.
Thanks for the replies. I was mainly looking for basic clearance so that I can get consulting jobs with the Federal Government. I live in DC, so many public companies hire only US citizens and say that you should be eligible for a security clearance. I am not really interested in FBI or top secret clearance.
I wholeheartedly pledge my alligence to US. But I have family back home in India that I visit often and don't want to apply for a visa every year. And I don't have any skeletons in the closet (in the US or elsewhere...)
I just found out that they issue a 10 year visitor visa which should more than suffice.
I wholeheartedly pledge my alligence to US. But I have family back home in India that I visit often and don't want to apply for a visa every year. And I don't have any skeletons in the closet (in the US or elsewhere...)
I just found out that they issue a 10 year visitor visa which should more than suffice.
CrossHairs
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Thanks for your post, akgarg. This is a good post to read for clarification.
Post by akgarg:
For what it is worth, US State Department does agree that OCI is not dual citizenship, but something akin to the US Green Card.
From http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES:
Dual Nationality: In 2006, India launched the "Overseas Citizens of India" (OCI) program, which has often been mischaracterized as a dual nationality program, as it does not grant Indian citizenship. Thus, an American who obtains an OCI card is not a citizen of India and remains a citizen of the United States. An OCI card in reality is similar to a U.S. "green card" in that a holder can travel to and from India indefinitely, work in India, study in India, and own property in India (except for certain agricultural and plantation properties). An OCI holder, however, does not receive an Indian passport, cannot vote in Indian elections and is not eligible for Indian government employment. The OCI program is similar to the Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card introduced by the Indian government several years ago, except that PIO holders must still register with Indian immigration authorities, and PIO cards are not issued for an indefinite period. American citizens of Indian descent can apply for PIO or OCI cards at the Indian Embassy in Washington, or at the Indian Consulates in Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Houston. Inside India, American citizens can apply at the nearest FRRO office (please see “Entry/Exit Requirements” section above for more information on the FRRO). For more information on the OCI program, please see http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=551.
Post by akgarg:
For what it is worth, US State Department does agree that OCI is not dual citizenship, but something akin to the US Green Card.
From http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES:
Dual Nationality: In 2006, India launched the "Overseas Citizens of India" (OCI) program, which has often been mischaracterized as a dual nationality program, as it does not grant Indian citizenship. Thus, an American who obtains an OCI card is not a citizen of India and remains a citizen of the United States. An OCI card in reality is similar to a U.S. "green card" in that a holder can travel to and from India indefinitely, work in India, study in India, and own property in India (except for certain agricultural and plantation properties). An OCI holder, however, does not receive an Indian passport, cannot vote in Indian elections and is not eligible for Indian government employment. The OCI program is similar to the Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card introduced by the Indian government several years ago, except that PIO holders must still register with Indian immigration authorities, and PIO cards are not issued for an indefinite period. American citizens of Indian descent can apply for PIO or OCI cards at the Indian Embassy in Washington, or at the Indian Consulates in Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Houston. Inside India, American citizens can apply at the nearest FRRO office (please see “Entry/Exit Requirements” section above for more information on the FRRO). For more information on the OCI program, please see http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=551.
krishnatrk
Registered Users (C)
Top secret security clearence
Does it mean the OIC/PIO will cause delays or rejection to Top secret clearence? Can some one please tell me the process to get the Top secret security clearence. I want to get the clearance first and will try contract JOB in washington area. Any help is greately appreciated.
Does it mean the OIC/PIO will cause delays or rejection to Top secret clearence? Can some one please tell me the process to get the Top secret security clearence. I want to get the clearance first and will try contract JOB in washington area. Any help is greately appreciated.
Does it mean the OIC/PIO will cause delays or rejection to Top secret clearence? Can some one please tell me the process to get the Top secret security clearence. I want to get the clearance first and will try contract JOB in washington area. Any help is greately appreciated.
I don't think this is the right forum to seek advice on getting top secret security clearance.