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Aakash24

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Hello people! I have gradauted from US college in bachelors and right now in the masters program. I have a total of 2 years work experience in USA and one year outside of USA. Currenty i am working as part time as a teaching assistant in my university.

My questions are:

1) If i apply for AUS immigration under independent skill (SUB 136, i believe since i am not in AUS), then what occupation should i declare when i sent for assesment? I have worked as a Junior Financial Analyst, Financial Manager and right now working as Graduate Teaching Assistant. My degree is in Business Economics and minor in Computer Science and right now i am doing MA in Economics.

2) Exactly what i need to send to the assesment authority and how should i start with everything? for the skill assesment.

3) To get point for English, do i need to sit for IELTS? i have finished my education in Engish in USA. Anything post secondary was in English. However, The HS wasnt.

4) For recent work experience, my work expereinces are in USA and out side of USA, what i need to submit for that? Just the work reference letter? or something else? If my occupation is nominated for 60 points then they need 1 to 1 and a half year work experience. is it required that they all have to be post gradtion experience? or over all?

5) If they dont qualify for me the occupation i will selectfor myself, will they recommend me any other occuption? talking about the assesment authority.

6) Assurance of support, does this need to be from blood related personal? i have relative in Aus, who will sponsor me with letter, but they are not my blood realted. Does it matter? And if i can, do i even have to have it as an SUB 136? If i do, then do i get extra point?

7) if one assesment authority deny one occupation then can one person apply in another profession to see if he or she is eligable?

THANKS ONCE AGAIN!!
 
1) If i apply for AUS immigration under independent skill (SUB 136, i believe since i am not in AUS), then what occupation should i declare when i sent for assesment? I have worked as a Junior Financial Analyst, Financial Manager and right now working as Graduate Teaching Assistant. My degree is in Business Economics and minor in Computer Science and right now i am doing MA in Economics.

For a IT related assesment you need at least 4 years and a degree in IT. I
dont not know what the assesment requirements for finance professionals
is. Look up immi.gov.au for a list of skilled occupations and their asessing
agency.


2) Exactly what i need to send to the assesment authority and how should i start with everything? for the skill assesment.

Look at the assesing agency website.


3) To get point for English, do i need to sit for IELTS? i have finished my education in Engish in USA. Anything post secondary was in English. However, The HS wasnt.

Not if you studied in the USA.

4) For recent work experience, my work expereinces are in USA and out side of USA, what i need to submit for that? Just the work reference letter? or something else? If my occupation is nominated for 60 points then they need 1 to 1 and a half year work experience. is it required that they all have to be post gradtion experience? or over all?

A detailed ref letter. The assesment depends on the agency's policys.

5) If they dont qualify for me the occupation i will selectfor myself, will they recommend me any other occuption? talking about the assesment authority.

I doubt it.

6) Assurance of support, does this need to be from blood related personal? i have relative in Aus, who will sponsor me with letter, but they are not my blood realted. Does it matter? And if i can, do i even have to have it as an SUB 136? If i do, then do i get extra point?

There's a list in the immi website

7) if one assesment authority deny one occupation then can one person apply in another profession to see if he or she is eligable?

Nothing to stop you from doing that.Costs u extra money
 
Part-time work

klein,

Can I use part-time work for Australian Immigration process?

I have 1 year full-time and 5 years part-time work experience as a Systems Analyst (all in one place-on campus, since Jan 2000, I will be here until Dec 2005).

I have BS degree in Management with Information Systems emphasis and I will have a Master's degree in Public Policy this December, both from a university in the US.

Do you think I will be eligible to apply for Aus PR?

Thanks for your time.
 
The ACS pro rates part time experience. So your 5 part time experince would be equal to 2/12 years full time. You might want to wait for another 6 month
s of FT experince to apply.
 
klein said:
The ACS pro rates part time experience. So your 5 part time experince would be equal to 2/12 years full time. You might want to wait for another 6 month
s of FT experince to apply.
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What about my one year full-time work experience already?

Here is my work history, if it makes easier for you to give me a good advice.

Computer Systems Analyst------Jan 27, 2000---Apr 25, 2002 (Part-time Student Employee)
--------------------------------received an undergraduate degree and gone for 2 months
--------------------------------came back after 2 months at the same job as a full-time
Systems Analyst----------------Jul 3, 2002---Sept 1, 2003 (Full-time, but no benefits, full-time in terms of hours worked, that's it)
--------------------------------started master’s degree on Sept 2, 2003
Systems Analyst----------------Sept 2, 2003---Dec 15, 2004 (Part-time Student Employee)
Systems Analysts’ Supervisor----Dec 16, 2004---Dec 16, 2005 (Part-time Student Employee)
--------------------------------will receive master’s degree in Dec 16, 2005

Full-time = 40 hours per week (sometimes little less, sometimes little more (over-time by permission)
Part-time = 20 hours per week or less during school year (Sept-Apr), full-time during summer (May-Aug)
 
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This is what I found in ACS website:

23. How do you assess Part-Time Experience?
Part-time experience will be included on a pro-rata basis if the applicant can demonstrate that they have been employed for a minimum of 20 hours/week.

24. How do you assess Full-Time Experience?
Full-time experience is defined as 38 hours or more per week. Please note that we will not scale experience up based on hours per week.

This is what it says in my work history letter given by my university:

“Per...(university name)…policy, undergraduate are allowed to work up to 20 hrs/wk during fall and winter semesters and up to 40 hrs/wk during spring and summer terms. Graduate students are allowed to work up to 30 hrs/wk during fall and winter semesters, in their field of study. Students are paid biweekly.”

I think the problem lies in between these two clauses: "up to 20 hrs/wk" rule from my university and "a minimum 20 hours/week" rule from ACS. What do you think? (in reality I have never even worked closed to 20 hrs/wk, I worked about 18-19 hrs/wk, but I think I can claim 20 hrs/wk as it is the rule given by my university)
 
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Assuming Part time is 20 Hr/Wk and Full time is 40 Hr/Wk
your prorated full time experince comes to : 25 months = 2yrs 1 month.

you would need 4 years of experince to qualify. You might want to
consult with a immigration agent who might be able to guide you better.

But my lay opinion is that the ACS people are very tightA****ed about experince and they will not approve your application as of right now..trust me .. I have been through that sh**.

Good luck.
 
klein said:
Assuming Part time is 20 Hr/Wk and Full time is 40 Hr/Wk
your prorated full time experince comes to : 25 months = 2yrs 1 month.

you would need 4 years of experince to qualify. You might want to
consult with a immigration agent who might be able to guide you better.

But my lay opinion is that the ACS people are very tightA****ed about experince and they will not approve your application as of right now..trust me .. I have been through that sh**.

Good luck.
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Thank you klein for your time. By the way thank you so much for sending me the format for referece letters. That was very nice of you. I may now use those reference letters for Canadian Immigration.

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I worked full-time (40 hrs/wk) each year during summer (4 months) and part-time (18-19 hrs/wk) during school year (8 months).

I have posted similar message in another forum and this is what Tony wrote:
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Hi Nirakar

The ACS have a policy that part-time work, to be counted, needs to be at least 20 hours per week. DIMIA has legislation that requires paid skilled experience to be a minimum of 20 hours per week. There is no discretion for the DIMIA officer if it is 19 hours per week and 40 hours during holidays to give an average of 25 hours per week. The ACS MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT, recognise this period ASSUMING it was seen as skilled IT experience.

If the ACS do recognise this experience, they will give 50% credit for such part-time work so your best case scenario would be:

17.5 months for 01/00 to 04/02 (based on 8 months part-time and 4 months full-time each year)
14 months for 07/02 to 09/03 - full-time work
will be another 17.75 for current period of 09/03 to 12/05

So you would be right on the (assuming you have a recognised IT degree) required 4 year IT experience.

DIMIA's required 12 month in the last 18 month period, you will not be able to meet, but you will have 4 months full-time experience followed by a 4 month period of non-countable part-time experience in the previous 8 months as at 12/05. If you complete your post-graduate in 12/05 and get back into full-time work, after 8 months yo uwould then have the required 12 months for DIMIA.

I think you need to know asap what, if any of your experience while studying is likely to be counted so consult an experienced ACS skills consultant and see if it is worth applying for an ACS assessment now. Even if it fails, it may list some periods as recognisable and then you will know exactly how much further IT experience you need.

You should never claim to have worked 20 hours if it is the case that you you never actually did you can claim to have worked say an average of 26 or 27 hours per week over a 12 month period. Like I said, this probably will not wash with DIMIA but MIGHT wash with the ACS.

Tony
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According to Tony, I have 4 years of work experience, but he also does not think I have a very good chance.

After listening to both of you, I am not going to bother asking any lawyers. I will rather focus in my application to Canada as they do not have that kind of minimum 20 hours rule per week. I can put together all my part-time hours and divide by 1950 to convert it to full-time equaivalent.

Thank you again for your time and help.
 
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