UN..question regarding October 2007 visa bulletin

Z

zzzz4zzzz

Registered Users (C)
UN, what will be the EB2 PD for this coming OCtober 2006 visa bulletin from USCIS
you have any idean where it will be ?
really scared for what's happening in USCIS man
some people are getting GCs eventhough their PDs are in 2005 and some are waiting for approval whose PDs are in 2001.

mine is EB2 with PD of late 2002 (India), waiting for 140 approval, got ead and ap recently
 
unitednations said:
This has been written about fairly extensively.

Most people who post (99%) of them have done NO ANALYSIS of the law on priority dates, when those labors are getting approved, how many 245i's are still in the pipeline, how spillover works, the per country limites, historical trends in greencard approvals verus the number of people who came on h-1/L-1, ombudsmen report, etc.

Instead everyone just keeps refreshing the visa bulletin because they think it is going to jump ahead four years or think there is some conspiracy by uscis/dos to not approve greencards.

The 2005 approvals are not from india. They are from other countries. USCIS has re-engineered their systems. Anyone who applies for a 485 and priority date is current and they are not stuck in name check is getting their case approved in 4 months of filing their 485. It took USCIS a few years to re-tool their system but it appears to be working the way they want it to work (ie., speed of 485 approvals).
Click to expand...

Thanks UN for your quick and very informative reply,
means for this coming Oct 2007 Visa bulleting, even if they moved EB2 india to Aug 2002, it will take 4 months to get approval if we apply 485 today ??
suppose not stuck in name check
that too from india , lot of people applied GCs , even if Pd is current , if 8000 people from india got 485 approvals, then we have to wait for new fiscal year???
 
Your approval ..

zzzz4zzzz said:
Thanks UN for your quick and very informative reply,
means for this coming Oct 2007 Visa bulleting, even if they moved EB2 india to Aug 2002, it will take 4 months to get approval if we apply 485 today ??
suppose not stuck in name check
that too from india , lot of people applied GCs , even if Pd is current , if 8000 people from india got 485 approvals, then we have to wait for new fiscal year???
Click to expand...

zzzz4zzzz,

Just wait and see what happens. There is a possibility that it will take a while so be ready for a long wait. As much as some people on this forum like to act as if they are the ultimate authority on PDs and claim that their analysis, superior reasoning skills, connections at the top .. blah blah blah ... enables them to predict the future of PD movement .. it is mostly ego-centric crap. No one can tell you how long you have to wait .. that is the blatant truth. I know this is not the answer you want to hear but we are all in a similar situation and all we can do is wait and watch. As I posted in an earlier thread, lets prepare ourselves for the worst case scenario and stop looking for updates from arm-chair quarterbacks on this forum. The PDs will move when the DOS decides to move them .. no one (other than MAYBE DOS/USCIS) can give you an informed update.

regards,

saras
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ofcourse it is working ..

unitednations said:
This has been written about fairly extensively.

Most people who post (99%) of them have done NO ANALYSIS of the law on priority dates, when those labors are getting approved, how many 245i's are still in the pipeline, how spillover works, the per country limites, historical trends in greencard approvals verus the number of people who came on h-1/L-1, ombudsmen report, etc.

Instead everyone just keeps refreshing the visa bulletin because they think it is going to jump ahead four years or think there is some conspiracy by uscis/dos to not approve greencards.

The 2005 approvals are not from india. They are from other countries. USCIS has re-engineered their systems. Anyone who applies for a 485 and priority date is current and they are not stuck in name check is getting their case approved in 4 months of filing their 485. It took USCIS a few years to re-tool their system but it appears to be working the way they want it to work (ie., speed of 485 approvals).
Click to expand...

UN,

The last part of your posting was most interesting, insightful and amusing. Ofcourse the USCIS is approving cases within 4 months now. Did you read the report from the USCIS director that stated that out of the 1.1 million BACKLOGGED cases 1 million are delayed because of circumstances out of the USCIS's control (lack of visas). Of these million about 140,000 were due to applicant delays. Its great engineering on the part of the USCIS. The bottom line is that the system is totally broken and extreme measures are in place to keep it afloat. These measures will stay in place till some relief comes by way of a change in law or some other idiotic policy that will benefit some and screw over others ... all of us can just hope that in the next wave of screw ups we end up on the winning side because this system will always be plagued with screwups no matter what is done.

regards,

saras
 
What stops the retrogressed guys to file EB1? or get a US residency waiver ( there is a comission in congress that does that-Fermi got such a waiver).In these circumstances will have a fast GC. These dates are current no?


All
Charge-ability
Areas
Except
Those
Listed
CHINA-
mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIP-PINES
Employ-ment
-Based

1st C C C C C


Hope it helps.
Abe
 
You should apply ..

abe_cedar said:
What stops the retrogressed guys to file EB1? or get a US residency waiver ( there is a comission in congress that does that-Fermi got such a waiver).In these circumstances will have a fast GC. These dates are current no?


All
Charge-ability
Areas
Except
Those
Listed
CHINA-
mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIP-PINES
Employ-ment
-Based

1st C C C C C


Hope it helps.
Abe
Click to expand...

Abe,

Cheeky ... nice. Unfortunately most people stuck in retrogression are not as brilliant as maybe you are or a few others on this forum. Hopefully you have applied for EB1 and gotten it. Brilliant people like you should not bother about the fate of the lowly EB3s ...

regards,

saras
 
abe_cedar said:
What stops the retrogressed guys to file EB1? or get a US residency waiver ( there is a comission in congress that does that-Fermi got such a waiver).In these circumstances will have a fast GC. These dates are current no?


All
Charge-ability
Areas
Except
Those
Listed
CHINA-
mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIP-PINES
Employ-ment
-Based

1st C C C C C


Hope it helps.
Abe
Click to expand...


A better advise can be "Why don't retrogressed people get GC through marriage? Rather than getting EB1, it can be easier to marry a Fat American spouse, if you are already married, you can give divorce to first spouse and marry the American, once you get citizenship (after few years) you can divorce the American spouse and marry your old spouse again" -- Isn't this a worthy advise????

If you have $$$$$$ to invest in business, you can immigrate that way too.

If you think your above advise helps, people can come with many other advices
 
You are right Saras,

I also read the whole http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetli...rt_2006_II-Pervasive_and_Serious_Problems.pdf report and i came to the conclusion that USCIS is not a whole intact organization with some glitches in it. Actually it is kind of a statue put together by pieces of other statues. After the creation of the Homeland Security (!) department, they broken up the INS in pieces and all the pieces of one INS was absorbed by several agencies. This was done just 4 years back so it will take some time to reorganize their acts. Meanwhile they are facing many difficult and massive tasks from other directions.

They will be less caring of what 0.5 million of potential legal immigrants think of thier acts no matter how good organize we are and how much loud our screams will be. People come on similar forums with their limited knowledge (i am also one of them) and claim to know much more but if you read all these reports you know that you are not dealing with one broken system, it is bunch of broken system put together. So there are lots of cracks and holes and our cases may drop from those cracks without anyone knowing that thing.

I will go in India and have a head bath in Ganga if my green card comes before my remains are shipped there !! I do not have any confidence in USCIS and its policies at least for now. May be in couple of years they will straighten out some problems. I hope that future generation of desi people will get some fruits of the labor we are bearing right now.

So sit tight and do not leave anything to chances !!
 
OK saras, give me that fat American while women, let me try GC !! :)

chanduv23 said:
A better advise can be "Why don't retrogressed people get GC through marriage? Rather than getting EB1, it can be easier to marry a Fat American spouse, if you are already married, you can give divorce to first spouse and marry the American, once you get citizenship (after few years) you can divorce the American spouse and marry your old spouse again" -- Isn't this a worthy advise????

If you have $$$$$$ to invest in business, you can immigrate that way too.

If you think your above advise helps, people can come with many other advices
Click to expand...
 
unitednations said:
Most people who post (99%) of them have done NO ANALYSIS of the law on priority dates, when those labors are getting approved, how many 245i's are still in the pipeline, how spillover works, the per country limites, historical trends in greencard approvals verus the number of people who came on h-1/L-1, ombudsmen report, etc.
Click to expand...
Very limited number of lawyers make this analysis too. However they are discussing retrogression, cut-off dates, strategies and being paid for legal advice.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top