Top Priority for Immigration reforms when the senate session begins.
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Pure politics ..
All,
Both democrats and republicans are busy playing politics right now. They did not expect such a backlash from the Latino community and are now trying to shift the blame onto the other party. I am not sure what might happen in this climate. Its one thing to release statements for publicity and another to actually do something. Right now everyone is trying to distance themselves from the controversial parts of the bill by releasing all sorts of statements to the media. They are probably waiting for the momentum to die down.
There really is no telling what they will do when they come back from vacation.
I also heard that a lot of Latino organizations are planning the 1st of May as the "No Latino Day". They are urging all Latino workers to stay away from their jobs on the 1st of May. There will be a lot of coverage if this happens.
regards,
saras76
All,
Both democrats and republicans are busy playing politics right now. They did not expect such a backlash from the Latino community and are now trying to shift the blame onto the other party. I am not sure what might happen in this climate. Its one thing to release statements for publicity and another to actually do something. Right now everyone is trying to distance themselves from the controversial parts of the bill by releasing all sorts of statements to the media. They are probably waiting for the momentum to die down.
There really is no telling what they will do when they come back from vacation.
I also heard that a lot of Latino organizations are planning the 1st of May as the "No Latino Day". They are urging all Latino workers to stay away from their jobs on the 1st of May. There will be a lot of coverage if this happens.
regards,
saras76
marlon2006
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If such boycott on May 1st goes thru, I will laugh so hard if everything functions well without Latinos. It may backfire on them big time.
saras76 said:
Not sure if the bill will improve the situation
This is my personel opinion.
I am not sure if the bill that will increase visa numbers and also provide provisions to illegals will be helpful to legals in the near future
The priority dates picture will improve, but then the application wait times will increase and people will have wait more years even after applying 485s and applications will be processed/approved randomly.
Last week, my local office gave an explaination/excuse that they have lots of work load to even look at my old case. Although I am fairly confident, that illegals wont get their GCs on a large scale before current waiting legal applicants. There may be few cases where their GCs will be randomly approved before existing ones.
However, if the USCIS is asked to keep track of even of 1/10th the current total illegal population,by verifying their status till date, criminal checks, and offer EADs to ones that pass the test (of 2 years, 5 years etc), their system will collapse soon, as they dont have enough resources/systems in place to handle so many people.
Just my opinion
This is my personel opinion.
I am not sure if the bill that will increase visa numbers and also provide provisions to illegals will be helpful to legals in the near future
The priority dates picture will improve, but then the application wait times will increase and people will have wait more years even after applying 485s and applications will be processed/approved randomly.
Last week, my local office gave an explaination/excuse that they have lots of work load to even look at my old case. Although I am fairly confident, that illegals wont get their GCs on a large scale before current waiting legal applicants. There may be few cases where their GCs will be randomly approved before existing ones.
However, if the USCIS is asked to keep track of even of 1/10th the current total illegal population,by verifying their status till date, criminal checks, and offer EADs to ones that pass the test (of 2 years, 5 years etc), their system will collapse soon, as they dont have enough resources/systems in place to handle so many people.
Just my opinion
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Arvind_I140
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I disagree
Latinos are an integral part of this economy and it definetely would bring things to a grinding halt if they boycott for a week. A day's boycott may not be that significant though.
marlon2006 said:
Latinos are an integral part of this economy and it definetely would bring things to a grinding halt if they boycott for a week. A day's boycott may not be that significant though.
So if this kind of thinking applies to Latinos... what if all H1-Bs (especially IT guys) suddenly stop working? Would all computer systems crash or something?
I am speaking sarcastically of course.
Seriously, not all Latinos are going to participate in this boycott. They are themselves divided into different factions, and many of them are not too happy to see people who sneak into the country demanding rights.
I am speaking sarcastically of course.
Seriously, not all Latinos are going to participate in this boycott. They are themselves divided into different factions, and many of them are not too happy to see people who sneak into the country demanding rights.
Arvind_I140 said:
The best and most just compromise
In my view the best and most just compromise for this predicament/impasse on immigration in the USA is as follows:
1) Serious border security legislation AND IMPLEMENTATION. With a 2 yr time frame on evaluating its success.
2) Current steps to ease the plight of law abiding LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, both for fairness and to demonstrate (to illegals) that this country rewards hardworking, patient, LAW ABIDING and skilled immigrants.
3) A promise to revisit the possibility of legalisation of the current illegal immigrants in 2 yrs after the above is implemented.
That sort of compromise should sit well with all concerned except for perhaps the most extreme elements on both sides of the debate. Which is perhaps a vindication of its correctness. It is a compromise that regards the value and tradition of Immigration in America. It is also fair minded and something that could sit well with joe public in this election year.
IV can perhaps work on floating this compromise with lawmakers, it may get more support than one may think. It will greatly help our just cause.
In my view the best and most just compromise for this predicament/impasse on immigration in the USA is as follows:
1) Serious border security legislation AND IMPLEMENTATION. With a 2 yr time frame on evaluating its success.
2) Current steps to ease the plight of law abiding LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, both for fairness and to demonstrate (to illegals) that this country rewards hardworking, patient, LAW ABIDING and skilled immigrants.
3) A promise to revisit the possibility of legalisation of the current illegal immigrants in 2 yrs after the above is implemented.
That sort of compromise should sit well with all concerned except for perhaps the most extreme elements on both sides of the debate. Which is perhaps a vindication of its correctness. It is a compromise that regards the value and tradition of Immigration in America. It is also fair minded and something that could sit well with joe public in this election year.
IV can perhaps work on floating this compromise with lawmakers, it may get more support than one may think. It will greatly help our just cause.
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BrainDrain
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How about if all H1-Bs fall sick for 3 days
Lx95 said:I saw it in the news that lot of Latinos lost their jobs for protesting.
Can IT guys dare to boycott their duties to protest?
It can never happen even in our wild dreams.
marlon2006
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I want to see this. It seems they did same boycott attempt in LA and it was a total failure; things worked fine without illegals.
Arvind_I140 said:
Lx95.....i dont thin IT guys boycotting work for 3 days will cause any concern......, afterall we are just around 200k.
but latinos....run restaurents and farms.....and if they boycott for a week it will definitely make a difference...
and the most important why boycott??, why not plan to quit and go somewhere else.....maybe then we may get noticed...
and our employers are not the one responsible for our misery its uscis/dos.......so it wont even make sense..
but latinos....run restaurents and farms.....and if they boycott for a week it will definitely make a difference...
and the most important why boycott??, why not plan to quit and go somewhere else.....maybe then we may get noticed...
and our employers are not the one responsible for our misery its uscis/dos.......so it wont even make sense..
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Lx95 said:I agree techy2468,
200K IT guys will not make any impact.
Does anybody risk their jobs knowing that it will not make any difference?
Quitting and going somewhere depends on individual decisions, I believe
there are very few takers for this.
that answers the question as to why legals are not participating in activities much..........they have everything to lose...
where as illegals have nothing to lose....they just live day to day....
legals cannot stop working....they may lose their job.....and that will bring the whole process to and end......