The Facts about Canadian Immigration

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wantmygcnow

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I have few friends who are Asylees & also H1s with Green card in process...have applied for Canadian immigration. They have become canadian citizens faster than a U.S Citizen.

As an asylee, you can apply for canadian PR but have to travel with your national passport as canada wont issue you a PR visa on a travel document. My friend who is still an asylee, got a PR visa on his national passport..crossed the border, got a landed immigrant status and bought a house in canada to pay taxes etc..came back to U.S ona travel document and then went back to canada for his citizenship after 4 years.

Point is..it can be done. A Permanet Resident only needs to show "ties" to the country..e.g a house, paying taxes and that can be done by the above example.

My.01 cent for smoene who also wants to try out canadian immigration.

Matter of fact, one lawyer I know in D.C Area has said that there is no implications on your Asylee application whatsoever..
 
thanks for the info, wantmygcnow. out of curiousity, while you're applying for PR in canada, do canadian immigration care (or wanna know) if you're a US asylee? or all they care about is the country you're from? i would think that if they know you're an asylee, then they wouldn't request that you use your national passport and issue you their version of our RTD instead. no?
 
The only thing canadian embassy cares for is that you are legal in this country and can work/study legal here. If you show them proof that you worked with a SSN card as outlined in the I-9..they will accept that.

THey will not issue you a canadian travel document..you are an asylee of U.S.A NOT canada.
 
H1's and Asylee

I waited for 3 years for my Asylee interview. As I was desperate without status since I could not travel and my job required it, they sponsored me an H1 visa. Coincidentially at the time I got approved on my asylee status I also got the H1 approved. I decided to apply for RTD but when the receipt note read that I will be receiving the RTD on 600 days, I decided to continue with the H1 process so I went to a third country (not mine) to get it stamp. By the time I was in the third country my RTD arrived to my home (6 months later)in the USA so I asked my roomate to send it to me to the 3d country, where I was stamping my visa and spending some time. When I came into the US, with the H1 since it was easier for me to have it to travel, they hold me for 7 hours on the Miami airport and at the end they cancelled it and let me in with the RTD, telling me that I could not have 2 status, contrary to what my very expensive and prestigious lawer told me. How did your friends do?
Also how long was your friend's proces to get Canadian Citizenship?
 
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I think I know what you did....even though I have heard lots of others doing the same without having problems...Asylees!...H-1 going out of country need an Advance Parole..did you have that? If you follow a diff process, you have to follow a process. If you are an asylee, you know you need a RTD to get back in the country..similary an h-1 knows he needs an advance parole to get back in.....Can u tell us the details? my friend..it took him total 5 years to get his citizinship..he is still not a u.s citizen...maybe his case is in 1 out of 1 million that got away..
 
This is not an uncommon occurance.

Both countries - Canada and US want a Permenant Resident to show ties to their respective countries. So, it can technically be done.

An Permenant Resident cannot leave the USA for more than 6 months - likewise a Canadian Permenant Resident must be in Canada 3 years out of every 5 years to maintain their status.

By buying a house, your friend was pretending to "live" in Canada while in fact he was here in the USA. Though it is not entirely legal, I can see why he would do that. Your friend also got back into the USA without jeopardizing his asylee status. This may have been that he used his national passport to complete the landing process in Canada.

So, to make things short... Yes an Asylee can apply for Canadian Permenant Residency but they would have to 'sneak' back into the USA. They will however have to come up with a method of maintainig "physcial presense" in both countries until they get their citizenship (in one of the countries).

I do want to make a point that if you apply for Canadian PR while an Asylee, you might be forfeiting your USA Ayslum case. As crazy as this may sound, it would be best to apply for Canadian PR after one receives their green card. Depending on your age and background, a typical PR case takes any where from 2 - 4yrs to process in the US. Canadian do extensive background checks in all countries you have lived in from age 18 and up.

I hope this made sense.
 
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It makes perfect sense and I totally agree with you except the " .. must be in Canada 3 years out of every 5 years ..". Actually you MUST physically be in Canada for 2 years out of every 5 years. I guess it was a typo.
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At the good old days, half of the land POEs at Ca-Us border were unguarded at weeknights and Sunday afternoon. "Sneaking" across the border was a like a walk in the park. NOT nooooowww, they are begining sharing immigration database and even have intergrated border enforcement units dispatched. Oh, for those asylees who thought about transiting through Canada to their home countries, be aware that the automated Canada-U.S. API/PNR "Advance Passenger Information and Passenger Name Records" data-sharing program be in place by Spring 2004. Here is a link for more details on it.http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/menu-en.asp?act=v&mid=9&cat=354&did=2465.


If I decided to go to the North, I'd simply walk away and not look back. Yes, technically it still can be done, but the risk is too high.


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LolaLi said:
This is not an uncommon occurance.

Both countries - Canada and US want a Permenant Resident to show ties to their respective countries. So, it can technically be done.

An Permenant Resident cannot leave the USA for more than 6 months - likewise a Canadian Permenant Resident must be in Canada 3 years out of every 5 years to maintain their status.

By buying a house, your friend was pretending to "live" in Canada while in fact he was here in the USA. Though it is not entirely legal, I can see why he would do that. Your friend also got back into the USA without jeopardizing his asylee status. This may have been that he used his national passport to complete the landing process in Canada.

So, to make things short... Yes an Asylee can apply for Canadian Permenant Residency but they would have to 'sneak' back into the USA. They will however have to come up with a method of maintainig "physcial presense" in both countries until they get their citizenship (in one of the countries).

I do want to make a point that if you apply for Canadian PR while an Asylee, you might be forfeiting your USA Ayslum case. As crazy as this may sound, it would be best to apply for Canadian PR after one receives their green card. Depending on your age and background, a typical PR case takes any where from 2 - 4yrs to process in the US. Canadian do extensive background checks in all countries you have lived in from age 18 and up.

I hope this made sense.
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