Steve Houston

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Hey Steve:

I read some of your terrific past messages about the mandamus cases, and I'd like to thank you for the great research you've done. I may use some of the cases you posted. FYI I am interested in petition for naturalization hearing cases under 1447b and 1421c.

Regarding your case, my humble advice to you is to get a second opinion about your case and the venues open for you. Talk to as many lawyers as possible, and try not to mention to them that you have spoken to another lawyer and this is what they said. Just see what they tell you. Trust me, I feel your pain. To me, if you bring a lawsuit and USCIS denies your application, it is a retaliation. There is a precedent in the ninth circuit regarding this: United States v. Hovsepian, 359 F.3d 1144 (9th Cir. 2004) (en banc). In Hovsepian, the applicant filed for judicial review under 8 U.S.C. § 1447(b) after the legacy INS failed to decide his application within 120 days of the initial examination. While the case was pending at the district court, the legacy INS denied the naturalization application. The district court determined that the legacy INS no longer had jurisdiction over the case, and the court thus disregarded the legacy INS decision and instead proceeded to approve the naturalization application. On appeal by the legacy INS, the Ninth Circuit found that the district court was correct in asserting exclusive jurisdiction.

Remember, 1447b talks about a 120-days period after the initial interview. In your case, the waiting time is over. your attorney may argue that if USCIS denies your case, it was a retaliation because they should've deny it during the interview.

Good luck my friend.
 
Publicus said:
Hey Steve:

I read some of your terrific past messages about the mandamus cases, and I'd like to thank you for the great research you've done. I may use some of the cases you posted. FYI I am interested in petition for naturalization hearing cases under 1447b and 1421c.

Regarding your case, my humble advice to you is to get a second opinion about your case and the venues open for you. Talk to as many lawyers as possible, and try not to mention to them that you have spoken to another lawyer and this is what they said. Just see what they tell you. Trust me, I feel your pain. To me, if you bring a lawsuit and USCIS denies your application, it is a retaliation. There is a precedent in the ninth circuit regarding this: United States v. Hovsepian, 359 F.3d 1144 (9th Cir. 2004) (en banc). In Hovsepian, the applicant filed for judicial review under 8 U.S.C. § 1447(b) after the legacy INS failed to decide his application within 120 days of the initial examination. While the case was pending at the district court, the legacy INS denied the naturalization application. The district court determined that the legacy INS no longer had jurisdiction over the case, and the court thus disregarded the legacy INS decision and instead proceeded to approve the naturalization application. On appeal by the legacy INS, the Ninth Circuit found that the district court was correct in asserting exclusive jurisdiction.

Remember, 1447b talks about a 120-days period after the initial interview. In your case, the waiting time is over. your attorney may argue that if USCIS denies your case, it was a retaliation because they should've deny it during the interview.

Good luck my friend.


Thanks Publicus for your comments. But remember in Hovsepian case, he was an Armenian terrorist who committed terrorisem in his youth in American soil. INS had a strong ground to deny Hovsepian application. Still as you said, the district court overruled INS decision, and the appeal court affirmed the district court decision at it became a precedence.
 
I didn't know he was a terrorist. I came across the case when doing some research about How To file Mandamus, and though Mr. Hovsepian was a criminal, you can use this precedent in case they deny your application for any reason. Observe what happened for Sony55. I believe that if he had filed for a mandamus earlier, USCIS wouldn't have denied his case.

Always be ready for all kind of replies from USCIS.
 
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