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Guys,

I received the denial letter from DOL. The reason for denial is stated as "Employer did not respond to the Request for Information within 30 days"

But neither my company nor the attorney did not receive any request from DOL. I don't know where the problem is.

Is there anybody in the same situation?
Do you have any idea of how long appeals take?

Thanks.
 
False Perm Denial

We just received a FALSE PERM denial stating that the "employer when contacted did not authorize the application." The employer NEVER got the required email but did get a phone call and has issued a sworn, signed affidavit detailing that he affirmed and authorized the PERM application and asked the person who called if there was any other information she needed--and she said "No." Initially, when she called the employer, she couldn't remember her own phone number so hung up in the middle of the message. She did call back however. The certifying officer DENIED the PERM application because this woman who called (Chicago office) had put on the application that the employer didn't authorize it. This is totally false information.

We've learned from another source of 14 other denials that are totally false as well. There is a big problem in the Chicago office but no one there seems to want to do anything about it.
 
PERM "Erroneous Rejections" What a Travesty

ILW.com Erroneous Rejections Article:

PERM - Erroneous Rejections "What A Travesty"

By Vivien Dalton

In these uncertain times in the world of "PERM" we would like to share our experiences with other PERM practitioners on a national basis, who may be going through the same experiences as our group of attorney's located here in Las Vegas and Southern California. We refer to applications that were mailed in or, electronically filed. We refer to applications that were "perfectly developed" but were denied based specifically upon, "selections were not made at..." (See denial reasons stated below). We refer to "Erroneous Rejections" Where DOL have denied the application based upon the following:

Denial Reason(s)
A selection was not made for Section A-1, Previously submitted application and the application is incomplete. Therefore, per 656.17(a), this application is denied

Their list goes on…. DOL listed nine (9) selections that they stated were incomplete. We immediately pulled the file to check. How could we have missed nine (9) selections. We have been preparing and filing Labor Certifications 1979. Personally, I pride myself on being very detail oriented. How could this have happened? We analyzed the ETA 9089 Form and found that all nine (9) selections had been completed and appropriately entered!

We immediately began to prepare the "Request for Review". It's pretty simple to do because DOL have the original copy of the Form 9089 FORM. All they have to do is pull the form and have the Certifying Officer, (not the input clerk) take a second look. Obviously the computer cannot read boxes on the 9089 form. The computer reads these spaces as blanks even though selections were properly completed. For sure a computer glitch at DOL's end.

Now! Try explaining why the application was denied to your client's. They cannot believe the system is so flawed. We made a call to DOL to ask approximately how long it takes for them to respond to a "Request for Review". We were told, "We cannot tell you. The system is too new to provide you with that information!" Another detail employer and foreign worker don't want to hear! One thing for sure is that whilst the "Request for Review" is in process, it prevents us all from re-filing another PERM application. Naturally, the employer(s) and the foreign worker(s) are not happy campers!

In total, we have experienced a total of nine (9) "Erroneous Rejections" all based upon "A selection was not made at…" when in fact we have documented proof that all identified selections were completed.

Finally, the latest denial of last week really shook us all up! It read:

Denial Reason:
Per 656.10, a labor certification on behalf of an alien must be filed by an employer. The employer's representative contacted by the ETA and/or the National Processing Center did not authorize this application, therefore the application is denied.

Of course, this is totally incorrect! The employer certainly did authorize the application. Within two days of receiving this "Erroneous Rejection" The employer immediately expressed a "Request for Review" to DOL stating the appropriate rebuttal information.

We have a strong feeling that there are great numbers of PERM practitioners out there who are also totally disappointed and exasperated with these, Erroneous Rejections".

Conclusion:

We would like to compile a number of cases that fit in this category as stated above. We want to approach the Certifying Officer(s) with enough data to alert them of this additional flaw in their system that apparently has not been addressed to-date.

PERM practitioners interested in completing a PERM questionaire are invited to send an email to: vivdalton@aol.com. With your cooperation, we hope to bring this unacceptable situation to the "Powers that Be". Thanks for your participation.

About The Author
Vivian Dalton is a U.S. citizen, originally from Manchester, England. She began her career working as an Immigration paralegal in 1979 in Los Angeles, CA. As the years went by, she found that preparing and filing Labor Certifications and H-1B visas although challenging, were very rewarding. Thus, over the years she has specialized in the two areas that she enjoys the most. Two years ago she relocated to Las Vegas, NV, and she is currently working for a very select group of attorneys located in Southern California as well as Las Vegas.
 
ETA 9089 Denied

I have been with my company since March 2005 in October they agreed to proceed with my Greencard filing but are adimit on doing it internally.

I am in VA (EB3 Electronics Engineering) and Atlanta came back with a denial.
Seem my company on form 9089 Section I-3 (DATE ALIEN SELECTED) being filled out incorrectly. I am in the process of getting the information from my company.

Would the date be the date I begain to work in this job in March 2005? or the date of filing the application?

any help would be greatly appreciated... I have 30 days to respond.
 
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