Philosophical musings...

[Superho]

If I may lift a page from Jerry Seinfeld's book:

Have you ever wondered if CIS has any employees go to immigration discussion boards such as this one and see what problems people encounter and what is being said about CIS?

 

[Suzy977]

If I may lift a page from Jerry Seinfeld's book:

Have you ever wondered if CIS has any employees go to immigration discussion boards such as this one and see what problems people encounter and what is being said about CIS?

Yes (I was wondering) and..I don't think they do that, they can't do their own "homework" what makes you think that they may spend extra time on "extra-curriculum" tasks!?!

With FBI, on the other hand...I'm...fifty-fifty

 

[Superho]

ACtually, I was thinking more along the lines of them monitoring the boards to be able to see what is going on in their department and learning to improve their processes. I didn't mean spying on people. I don't know what spying would get them, but they can certainly learn from here

 

[qili]

ACtually, I was thinking more along the lines of them monitoring the boards to be able to see what is going on in their department and learning to improve their processes.

from my experience with the USCIS, you may be giving them too much credit.

 

[qili]

Hmm, the number of people on boards like this is very small compared to the number of applicants. Most people don't know about these boards.
So, it would be easy to argue that we are not representative. If

I doubt they tought you this in "law" school but a small number of samples can be representative. With the right attributes, one person, for example, can be represntative of a much larger population.

hopefully you don't have to mix those concepts later.

 

[Superho]

Well, I don't think Joe is talking in the statistical sense. Besides, you can't really apply statistics to the types of problems associated on these boards or even amongst people who don't visit here. Everyone's problem is unique, so each person is a population of his/her own. Ergo, n=1 does not really represent a larger population...

I was talking more in the sense of the CIS improving their process, rather than addressing individual cases. It is the appallingly cock-eyed process that causes so many problems for us. Individual issues, such as overstaying a visa or jumping across the border illegally are not something CIS can solve, but timely adjudications, not issuing asinine RFEs, etc, is.

 

[Suzy977]

Anyway, if CIS is reading Publicus's thread they should come to the conclusion that is time to clean their act up or else

One thing is for sure, no longer than back in November 2005 I knew only a guy (dw2005) who sued CIS and got naturalized afterwords, today, four months later there is almost every day another one who start a lawsuit and one who gets the Oath invitation.

I don't know for CIS, but the members here this forum was a big success

...not to mention a lot of incompetent immigration lawyers who lost good business

 

[Superho]

I read somewhere that AILA is encouraging immigration lawyers to sue the pants off CIS in N-400 cases. I guess they feel that enough lawsuits will get Uncle Sam's attention. Ultimately, however, it is we who lose, as it is our tax dollars that Uncle Sam uses to defend himself from us! Talk about living in Bizzaroworld...

 

[Suzy977]

Yeah, I think lawsuits are the only things that gets their attention.
It is amazing how fast they can be all of a sudden when there is a lawsuit...
It is a sad state of affairs that they only provide service (after all, it is in their name...) when they get served with a lawsuit.

On this topic:
I remember clearly back in November asking dw2005: "Are sure your Name Check was cleared by FBI because of your lawsuit, and it's not just a coincidence?"

Since then, I've heard about many, many cases, and I've read a lot about these litigations, and definitely IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE

Now, I'm wondering:

CIS alwasy maintained and defended itself saying that FBI's Name Check is out of their hands...
How comes as soon as they get the Summons, in a matter of weeks, sometimes days, the FBI's Name Clearance is done and the Oath letter is in the mail

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[brb2]

The current bill on immigration reforms by Specter will remove the clause for ability to sue USCIS. Interestingly Bill Frist's version of the bill does not remove this, nor does it have a guest worker program.

Yeah, I think lawsuits are the only things that gets their attention.
It is amazing how fast they can be all of a sudden when there is a lawsuit...
It is a sad state of affairs that they only provide service (after all, it is in their name...) when they get served with a lawsuit.

 

[bashar82]

The current bill on immigration reforms by Specter will remove the clause for ability to sue USCIS. Interestingly Bill Frist's version of the bill does not remove this, nor does it have a guest worker program.

Unfortunately, both bills, Specter's and Frist's, amend 8 USC 1447b just like HR 4437. The wording is almost identical. One will have to wait for 180 days after all examinations and interviews are completed and then the court can only remand the case back to the Secretary of Homeland Security.