No Taxation without Representation

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maybe this has been explored before, but do not recollect a thread on this forum.

i do not have to explain what this means, but the question i have is: can this be used in a court of law by the folks who are forever waiting for GC or citizenship to either not pay income tax or use this to get citizenship / voting rights quicker? typically from F1 to citizenship is about 8 - 10 years and a lot of tax$$$).

(The American Revolution and how this country was born)
 
What has tax anything to do with immigration status. Tax is imposed on income, You can avoid paying tax by stop earning money.

Is there a legal argument here... this looks more like a dialog from a hindi movie (Govinda trying to change the world...)

lsamp said:
maybe this has been explored before, but do not recollect a thread on this forum.

i do not have to explain what this means, but the question i have is: can this be used in a court of law by the folks who are forever waiting for GC or citizenship to either not pay income tax or use this to get citizenship / voting rights quicker? typically from F1 to citizenship is about 8 - 10 years and a lot of tax$$$).

(The American Revolution and how this country was born)
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Goodsaint, not exactly. The genesis of the American Revolution can be traced to this - That the American people should not be taxed since they did not find any representation in the government of the day. However, that was then, and this is now. The world has changed a lot, what with globalization and cross-country movement of professionals. You have to pay taxes to enjoy all the amenities that the government provides for you, and not necessarily for voting privileges. Also, it is not the case that the bulk of the taxpayers do not find any representation in government, as was the case then. So this argument will not hold. However, one could argue for considering the start of the citizenship at an earlier date.

Any thoughts??
 
Nice post 485_if_ever.

Goodsaint,

This was the rallying cry of American rebels during the war for independence. The concept here is a historical lesson, it has nothing to do with paying taxes and working or not working. Instead it has to do with using a very visible analogy for our rights. But the key difference as mentioned by 485_if_ever is the fact that that was then, and this is now, the world has changed, and technically you can't be employed if you aren't here legally, and hence you pay no taxes. And the fact that there is a legal system in place for immigrants to achieve representation.

I know the Indian govt. was negotiating with the American govt. to disallow H1 employees from paying social security, etc. and for the money already paid to have it refunded when they leave the country. Don't know if that flew very far.
 
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