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No middle name in passport because first name was too long.
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Jackolantern
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If it's not on your birth certificate, nor on another legal document showing you added the middle name after birth, you legally don't have a middle name, as far as USCIS is concerned. So you would not include it in the "current legal name" section, but you should include it in the "other names used" section of the N-400.
And if it is displayed on the GC, you would also include it in the question that asks for your name as displayed on the GC.
If you want the middle name on your naturalization certificate, you'll need to request a name change.
And if it is displayed on the GC, you would also include it in the question that asks for your name as displayed on the GC.
If you want the middle name on your naturalization certificate, you'll need to request a name change.
Jackolantern
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Sorry, I've been going back and forth between sections of the forum and thought I was in the citizenship section when writing my above reply.
So regarding your upcoming green card ... have you applied for it yet? Is your 17-letter first name made up of one word, multiple words with a hyphen, or multiple words with space(s) in between? If it's multiple words with spaces, you can simply treat the first word as your first name, and the rest of it as your middle name(s). Fill out the GC application like that and do the same for everything else (driver's license, SSN, etc.) and you'll have no problems.
But if it's one long word, or two words with a hyphen in between, you would have to request an official name change in court to get the shorter first name onto your GC. You would also need a court-ordered name change to add in the middle name, since it's not on your birth certificate or passport.
And you are right that a 17-letter first name would create complications for you when living in the US, where very long names are not popular. Different government agencies and businesses will chop off the name at different places, making you unable to have all your IDs and accounts and registrations with the same first name across the board.
So regarding your upcoming green card ... have you applied for it yet? Is your 17-letter first name made up of one word, multiple words with a hyphen, or multiple words with space(s) in between? If it's multiple words with spaces, you can simply treat the first word as your first name, and the rest of it as your middle name(s). Fill out the GC application like that and do the same for everything else (driver's license, SSN, etc.) and you'll have no problems.
But if it's one long word, or two words with a hyphen in between, you would have to request an official name change in court to get the shorter first name onto your GC. You would also need a court-ordered name change to add in the middle name, since it's not on your birth certificate or passport.
And you are right that a 17-letter first name would create complications for you when living in the US, where very long names are not popular. Different government agencies and businesses will chop off the name at different places, making you unable to have all your IDs and accounts and registrations with the same first name across the board.
I applied for my green card today beccuase I wanted to beat the date the filing fee increase kicks in.The name is a long 17 letter name,no hyphen nothing just a whole string of 17 letters.Would a name change during the green card process affect any changes as to what name will be on the green card itself or do i have to wait till after I get the green card?What do you think will be the positive step forward?
Jackolantern
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A name change during the GC process is likely to cause delays; they would have to do your background check with the new name (in addition to your original name), among other procedures they'll need to do to handle your name change mid-stream. But once they've handled that, at the end of it all the GC will be printed with your new name.
On the other hand, if you wait until after you get the GC to change your name, you would have to file for an updated green card and pay another fee for it.
Note that a name change process via the courts may take a couple of months, and they may refuse to do it when you are neither a permanent resident nor citizen. The processing time, fees, and rules are location-dependent, based on the laws and procedures in each state/county/city; contact your local City Hall for information,
What is your GC application based on? Marriage to a USC?
On the other hand, if you wait until after you get the GC to change your name, you would have to file for an updated green card and pay another fee for it.
Note that a name change process via the courts may take a couple of months, and they may refuse to do it when you are neither a permanent resident nor citizen. The processing time, fees, and rules are location-dependent, based on the laws and procedures in each state/county/city; contact your local City Hall for information,
What is your GC application based on? Marriage to a USC?
Jackolantern
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Each state/county/city has its own rules that decide whether they will do it for people without GC or citizenship. So it may or may not be possible where you are. But I'd expect that nowhere in the US will allow it if you don't have some kind of legal status.From what you said it might be impossible to change my name here in the US.
That's up to you and the rules where you live. You might be forced to wait until you have a GC. If the rules in your location mean you don't have to wait, then it's up to you to decide which scenario you prefer:So should i wait?
1) Name change during GC process: GC is delayed, but GC will have your new name.
2) Name change after GC: GC is not delayed, but GC will not have your new name, then you must file (and pay) for an updated GC.
hi guys , i wish sombody give me some advices please.
On oct 22 2009 arrested by ICE , because after i got married to a citizenship woman i stopped school as i was visa F1, spent 25 days in holding place ,i bonded out. iwent for several courts after ,on june 23 2010 the judge stopped deportation.
on july 29 2010 file i-485.
on nevember 26 2010 gotmy green card ,the probleme is with inccorect last name . for exepmle my last name like( EL ALEX) i got it like this ELALEX means there is no space between L and A
.as i said over 1 year im fighting for my green card ,so do i need to bother myself again over to get my last name change or let like that , actually it spells rights just i need a space between L and A like This for exemple EL ALEX not ELALEX?
please if somebody has any information about like this situation anser me. i heard about i-90 .i have no idea what i need to do
On oct 22 2009 arrested by ICE , because after i got married to a citizenship woman i stopped school as i was visa F1, spent 25 days in holding place ,i bonded out. iwent for several courts after ,on june 23 2010 the judge stopped deportation.
on july 29 2010 file i-485.
on nevember 26 2010 gotmy green card ,the probleme is with inccorect last name . for exepmle my last name like( EL ALEX) i got it like this ELALEX means there is no space between L and A
.as i said over 1 year im fighting for my green card ,so do i need to bother myself again over to get my last name change or let like that , actually it spells rights just i need a space between L and A like This for exemple EL ALEX not ELALEX?
please if somebody has any information about like this situation anser me. i heard about i-90 .i have no idea what i need to do
Jackolantern
Registered Users (C)
When you are on F1 and quit school, notifications are raised in the SEVIS system and that may alert ICE to go after you. You should have stayed in school until at least your I-485 was filed. And updated the school about it when you got the I-485 receipt, so they would take you off of the SEVIS monitoring.On oct 22 2009 arrested by ICE , because after i got married to a citizenship woman i stopped school as i was visa F1, spent 25 days in holding place ,i bonded out.
File form I-90 to get the name on the green card changed. But first you have to figure out if it was your mistake or USCIS mistake. If it is USCIS mistake, you won't have to pay the fee. Do you have a copy of the I-485 application that you or your lawyer filled out?