N-600 based on Parents Naturalization Cert.

BR2006

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Gurus,
My spouse and I got naturalised 2 weeks ago. We also applied for expedited US passports. Once we receive ours we want to apply for our son's US passport.
I am also thinking of applying for N-600 in parallel. My son is living with us in US.
Questions:
  1. As a proof of his citizenship status is it enough if we enclose just the copies of both our Naturalization certificates along with a copy of his green card?
  2. How long does this N-600 process take?
  3. Is there an interview for the child, and an Oath ceremony just like our N-400 process?
  4. If there is an interview, do we require to take all originals ( I am asking since we will also be applying for my son's passport, originals may be stuck in that process and we may/may not have them with us at the time at of our N-600 interview).
Guys please advise. You all got me this far. And I am thankful to you all.
Regards,
BR2006.
 
I think most of your questions can be answered if you read the N-600 instructions, but off the top of my head (what I seem to remember):
1. Copies are fine, don't send originals with N-600
2. A year or so, it depends on the local office. Go to www.uscis.gov processing times and check your local office for how long N-600 is taking there.
3. It is not really an interview, and there is no oath, it is not like N-400, you just need to bring the child to the USCIS local office so they verify the child exists and is in the country.
4. I am not sure about this one, it will probably say in the form when they ask you to go to the local office which documents to bring with you. As N-600 takes several months you should already have your naturalization certificates back from passport processing.

I would suggest to do the N-600 before the new fees take place at the end of July, you'll save about a couple hundred dollars.
 
We applied for a passport for my daugher immediately after my wife's naturalization ceremony. Then we submitted an N-600. That was in June of 2006 (i.e., just about a year ago). We have not heard anything since.

On this forum, I've seen N-600s get processed in as little as 3 months. I have no idea why ours is taking so long. If you go to the "Processing times" web site (https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp) and pick your "Field Office" (aka "District Office") you should see an estimate of the local N-600 processing times. Since it is the USCIS, the times may or may not be accurate (Dallas claims to be processing August 2006 applications (like they claimed last month and the month before that - several months ago they claimed to be processing October and November 2006 applications)).

My answers to your questions:

  1. Follow the instructions that accompany the form. As far as I know they are complete. In general, you submit copies of everything. Do not submit originals - I don't trust the USCIS.
  2. Who knows? As little as a few months and as long as a year or so.
  3. There is an interview. I believe that it's purpose is to have the USCIS view the child and to view the originals of the documents. Someone recently mentioned on this forum that an oath was taken. I'm assuming it's an "everything I say here is the truth" oath, not an oath of allegiance like at the oath ceremony. The child became a US citizen when all the rules were met (likely when the parent took their oath). The N-600 process is just a verification of the facts.
    [*] As far as I know, yes. I will post our experiences should this process ever end.
 
Additional documentation

The N-600 instructions ask for documents showing the parents' physical presence in the US, such as lease, mortgage, etc.
Isn't that silly if you apply right after naturalization - a process mostly consisting of veryfing your physical presence in the US?
Did you send all those? I have no problem sending info but I thought the minumum should be enough, like leases mortgages since I entered the country.
 
You don't have to apply immediately after naturalization.

We sent copies of the drivers licenses of both my (then 17 year old) daughter and my wife (since I believe you are supposed to prove that the child resides with the parent) as well as a mortgage statement and a report card. We decided a little more information might be useful (this was immediately after we had applied for an expedited passport for my daughter and the state department asked us for more information than was detailed in the instructions (they wanted our marriage certificate)).
 
Thank you.

You don't have to apply immediately after naturalization.

We sent copies of the drivers licenses of both my (then 17 year old) daughter and my wife (since I believe you are supposed to prove that the child resides with the parent) as well as a mortgage statement and a report card. We decided a little more information might be useful (this was immediately after we had applied for an expedited passport for my daughter and the state department asked us for more information than was detailed in the instructions (they wanted our marriage certificate)).
 
Message to Flydog

Question on providing Marriage certificate for passport

a) Did you get a notice in the mail to send that?

b) did they give you a reference number to ensure it landed with the original application?

c) Did you get all your original docs back in order with the passport?

d) which office did you send it to?
 
We had a reason to expedite my daughter's passport (she had been accepted to a government internship that required US Citizenship). So, as soon as my wife took the oath we went to a post office and applied for an expedited passport (the same day as the oath). We live in Dallas, and it was sent to Houston. We were in a hurry (she need proof of US Citizenship about a month later).

After about a week, when her status didn't show up on the state dept site, we called the 800 number. They said it was in process. Two days later it was on the site, but with a note that it needed additional documentation. We phoned the 800 number again and the told us that they wanted a marriage certificate. They told us where to send it, but told us we needed to include the form that they were sending us so it would be properly matched with her application.

A day or two later that form showed up, so we expressed the marriage cert to Houston the same day. Less than a week later the passport and all of the docs (natz cert, marriage cert, etc.) showed up, but from Los Angeles.

She was able to go to her intership.
 
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To Flydog

Thanks for the info

We applied for my son and they did ask us for the marriage certificate at the post office which we didn't have at the time. They did accept the application though and said the passport office could ask for it if required

a) I wanted to know if they specifically told you why they needed the marriage certificate. My wife's last name and mine are same on the birth certificate

b) another thing - I applied for the expedited passport on 6/11. Today is 6/15 and the info is already on the website but the message says it is routine processing?? Is this a standard message they put out there? I am worried as I paid for the expedited version and the website says something else.

c) Is there a way to email them?

Thanks
 
No, they didn't tell us explicitly.

However, the instructions (which seem pretty good) do not include the marriage certificate in the list of required docs. The statute does say the child must be "legitimate", so I assumed that the fact that our last names don't match complicated our application.

Have you tried phoning the 800 number. It's open quite late, I had no problem getting through to them in the last hour they were open (but, this was before the start of the big passport crunch).

If you can figure out how to email an original document...

We sent the marriage certificate by express mail and it arrived the next day.
 
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Sorry I meant is there an email address to use for the passport office

I have tried calling them at the 800 number but they do not take the calls. It is extremely busy
 
I received my citizenship a few days ago and I changed my last name. I have a 15 year old daughter. My questions are:

1.How can I apply for a citizenship certificate for my daughter and what are the fees?
2.Will my daughter automatically receive my new last name? If not what do I have to do to change her last name?
 
If your daughter has a GC and lives with you then she is a citizen (as a result of your citizenship and the "Child Citizenship Act of 2000 (known as the CCA)).

You can apply for a passport for her. That is the easiest way to get proof of her citizenship. The instructions for the passport form are rather clear.

You can also apply for a "citizenship certificate" with an N-600 application. It will give your daughter an "unexpiring" "root document" to prove her citizenship. You need original documents for the passport application, but only copies with the N-600. Even with all the backlog, passport processing (especially expedited passport processing) is reasonably quick (in comparison to the USCIS)). N-600 processing can be very slow (my daughter's application spent a year in limbo before they came back and said "come in for an interview").

Good luck
 
Thanks Flydog!

I still have an unanswered question. Since I changed my last name does my child automatically get my new last name or do we have to go to court and petition for a name change?

Also are there any fees that I need to pay in order for my daughter to receive the certificate?
 
I have no idea about changing names. We are all quite happy with the names we got at birth :)

Yes, an N-600 application currently costs something like $250 or $260. I'm not sure if it's going up at the end of the month. For that, you get about $50 to $100 worth of service spread out over a very long time - USCIS-style (not that I'm bitter or anything).
 
Thanks Flydog!
I liked your answer about changing name :)

N-600 application currently fee is $255. You were right.

A million thanks again
 
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