my observations, coming back with AP

havasosa

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Hi all;
Last night my family and I came back to US from London, Heathrow, I would like to share my observations with this wonderful community.

We all had three copies of AP (original), first at the heathrow, the guy who I think was the immigration specialist of British airways looked at our documents and told me that he needs to keep a copy of AP (original one) I was not happy and asked why? He said this is the new regulation! I complied

When we arrived in detroit, the first thing I noticed was a massive line, new regulations of finger printing is creating havoc. Most of the passengers were British and hence were using visa waiver form, (green forms), however about 30 percent were not visa waivers and one could tell by their white forms (I94), these people went through fingerprinting which was fairly quick, but not very quick, about 3-4 minute per person.

At last we came to the booth and the officer looked at our AP and asked us to follow him to the back office. We went along and there I also observed another couple which I will tell as a side-story later. Anyhow, the officer was polite and asked my what I do and why did I left US which I told him and looked at our AP and checked on his PC and told me everything is fine and took another copy of our advanced parole (original one), then stamped the last copy of our AP and I94 forms (but did not stamp our passports, he said it is not necessary!?) and told me good luck for my green card! I asked him, could you please check my status of I485 on your computer, he said that they don't have access to the detailed information, all it says is pending I485 and that is good enough for him!!??

Then we went to cutom, that was tough! every baggage has to go through Xray again and rather serious questioning. What do you have? food? meat, etc? The answer to all should be no ofcourse.

Hey guys, DO NOT bring any food, it will be trouble. Then again another officer asked me what do I do here and why did I leave the country, etc. I showed him stamped advanced parol etc. but he said he does not need to see that!!?? Anyhow, eventually he told us "You are all set!", that was good to hear and we left the airport (after about 3 hours after arrival)

Now, the side story, during the whole process I was not worried about my situation at all, there was no reason for me to worry, all our paper works were fine and in order, however what really made me sad and hurt my heart was the way the people treated.
In the back room I saw a couple, clearly grandma and grandpa, the man had white hair (not grey, white) the lady was fragile and had grey hair, they were around 70 years old. I think there were from Lebonan or some middle east countries, I could not read their passport but clearly could read the arabic script on their passports. They both had their green cards! The officer (the good one) was questioning them and another officer (the bad one) was also pointing them their mistakes and was telling them to to be truthful. What was the problem, classic! they were grandma and grandpa that had their green card but left the country last year and told them the truth (they should not!) and the officer was telling them that they can not be out of the country more than 6 months. Anyhow,eventually, the good officer stamped their passport and let them go (although I don't know why, I thought the green card holders will not get a stamp!?) my wife could hear them better, I was busy with my officer and my AP. My wife told me that later the bad officer told the good officer that he should have given a "waiver", I guess that means that cancel their green card! I can not belive that the whole life of some people could be changed so easily, I wanted to tell them, for god's sake just look at their age and color of their hair. Why are you torturing these people?

Anyhow, I was thinking about these old people the whole night. At the custom, I saw them again, all their luggage was opened and 2 or 3 officers were going through their belongings. I was just about to cry! What the hell is going on! My wife dragged me along and we came out.

And guess what, we saw their children and grandchildren all waiting out side. I talked to the son and told them not to worry they are on their way out but please tell them what to tell and what NOT to tell!

He was very worried about them and I comforted him a bit! Then I went to get our car and told my wife and children to wait for me.

By the time I came back, those 2 old granparents have been out, later my wife told me that they managed to come out from the other side of the lounge (how, we don't know) and could not see their children and grandchildren and were just about the leave the airport!

(They were clearly shaken and disturbed). Eventually my wife who was observing everything, told them that your family are on the other side of the lounge and directed them to their beloved and they all hugged and kissed each other. (Happy ending!)

And by this time I came with the car and took my family home. Funny enough, during our short journey, both of us were thinking and talking about those 2 grandparents and guess what, we DO have parents that are the grandparents of our children and we could see that they are going to go through the same torment. Is this the country that we want to live? Did we choose the right place to immigrate to? We keep asking ourselves the same question all the time! Any answer?

Good luck
 
I was almost about to cry when I read it.
I am also asking myself AM I REALLY wanting to do it!!!
 
Thanks for the heads up!

I guess I should expect seeing the same circus in the next 25 hours or so. I will be coming back from my tropical holiday.

I am wondering why the hell I jumped in this freak show in the first place. :D

On a totally unrelated topic. I work in the scientific field, and our company hired a canadian a while ago. He still could not join us, waiting for various background check and security clearances (tech alert, etc). Coming from a "country of intrerest" I guess I can surely expect better first class treatment.
 
Hi;
One piece of advice, don't expand on your work as such. They asked my what do I do (what is the natuer of my job) and I simply replied "computer programmer", that is good enough!

Don't go over too much details (everybody is programming somewhat anyway)

Good luck for your trip back

By the way, they just reduce the alert status to yellow which is kind of good news

Take care
 
Just got in!

I just went back to the US using AP via O'Hare. I was pleasantly surprised that my experience couldn't have been smoother. No fingerprint, no picture, no secondary inspection. The officer only asked me who I am working for, and what I do. The whole thing took less than 2 minutes. I came out of the airport less than 30 min after my plane landed (I believe my plane was the first to enter the international terminal today, so that probably helped).

FYI: I came from a "former special registration country", so I prepared for the worst case scenario, like warned my fiancee who picked me up to be patient if it takes 3-4 hrs after my plane landed for me to complete all formality.

Now that holiday is over, back to reality of waiting for my I-485 approval.

:D :D :D
 
When I came back to the states with my AP in Oct last year, the immigration officer at point of entry took all three of my original form, and stampt one of them, attached I94 with it and returned it to me vs before, they just make a copy of it and had you keep all the original.

Regarding to green card holder. My attorney mailed me the related regulation regarding to green card from BCIS. It stated clearly if you are planning to stay outside US for more than 6 months, you need to contact BCIS prior your departure. It says "... absences of more than one year invalidate the green card as an entry document unless the individual also holds a valid re-entry permit ... A foreign national who has been continuously outside of the United states more than 12 months may still be a U.S. permanent resident, but a special immigrant visa from a U.S. Consul will probably need to be obtained in order to re-enter the United States unless the individual is in possession of a valid re-entry permit ... Filing for a re-entry permit: A re-entry permit, issued by teh Immigration Service, is usually granted for two years and serves as recongnition by the Immigration Service that an individual does not intend to abandon permanent residence despite a prolonged absence outside of the United States. The application must be submitted while the individual is physically in the United States, and must be used for re-entry prior to the expiration of teh document ..."

Please also be aware of that there is a 10 year expiration date on your Green Card. Everybody has to apply for the new card before it expired. Althogh the card will have an expiration date, an individual's status as a permancent resident does not expire at that time, only the card.

Follow the rules, you will be fine. Or maybe you think there are too much rules here, you do have a freedom of choice to leave this country and never come back.
 
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