MS+0 Qualification for EB2

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Some of my below questions might have been already answered in FAQ's or previous posts, but I fail to find answer's to some queries I have. I would appreciate if someone could direct me to similar question answered previously or answer my query directly.

1. If the applicant has MS+0, in ETA 9089 H.4 states Minimum is 'Master's', H.6(experience required) is 'No' and H.7(alternate requirements) is 'No', are these right answer's for qualification for EB2?

2. In section H.11(9089) about Job Duties, how descriptive should it be?

3. What are potential pitfalls during I-140 after approval of EB2? Something's done while applying under EB2 which might affect I-140 approval.

Thank you
stump
 
I am just going to give you advice not to put MS+0. I might be wrong of course, but I did not see a lot MS + 0 approved. By stating MS + 0 you are saying that anybody with MS in the right field will qualify. You will have hundreds of applications (well that depends on the area, at least in Chicago you would be overhelmed about the ad in Chicago Tribune requesting MS+0), and all of the applicants will have to be interviewed. You cannot justify not calling MS applicant to interview.
I really have no clue how somebody would argue that he is the best applicant for MS + 0. This is a shady thing to me. Even if you put alternate experience as BS + 5 , it does not look right. Well I won't argue, I might be wrong and I am not sure how you going to go about PERM. Maybe this is just your only option to qualify for EB2...
Just wanted to express my point of view.
Anyway, good luck!
 
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My Employer is in Hartford CT, and Iam not sure if he was 'overwhelmed' by applications, I will definitely ask him now.

My PERM application specifically states that applicant for the Job should have MS in Computer Science (H.4-B Major field of study: Computer Science or Engineering), so I do not think ANY MS+0 would qualify for this job.

And in H.7 it says 'No' for "Is there an alternate field of study that is acceptable".

You are right merovingian, this is the only option I have to qualify for EB2. Come to think of it, the argument of whether the employer has interviewed the potentional candidates would always arise even if the requirement is MS+2 for example.

So how do Employer's usually prove that applications were recieved and candidates where interviewed for this position?

Another Employee under my Employer who has MS+1 got his PERM approval under EB2, would that help my PERM?

I do not want to apply under EB3, period. So if my PERM is denied would my denial have any affect on my future PERM applications (If I change my employer and file under MS+2)?
 
Well, then it is different. I understand the need for EB2, especially if you from not retrogressed country. 5 months vs 5 years.Heck, I would go for it too no matter what.
I do not think that it will affect future PERM in different category, and if employer will support you all the way, that is a good thing.
Good luck.
 
stump said:
Some of my below questions might have been already answered in FAQ's or previous posts, but I fail to find answer's to some queries I have. I would appreciate if someone could direct me to similar question answered previously or answer my query directly.

1. If the applicant has MS+0, in ETA 9089 H.4 states Minimum is 'Master's', H.6(experience required) is 'No' and H.7(alternate requirements) is 'No', are these right answer's for qualification for EB2?

2. In section H.11(9089) about Job Duties, how descriptive should it be?

3. What are potential pitfalls during I-140 after approval of EB2? Something's done while applying under EB2 which might affect I-140 approval.

Thank you
stump
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Filing as MS+0 is perfectly fine. No risks involved. I know of many people in my compnay certified as MS+0.

1. If the applicant has MS+0, in ETA 9089 H.4 states Minimum is 'Master's', H.6(experience required) is 'No' and H.7(alternate requirements) is 'No', are these right answer's for qualification for EB2?
Yes, these answers are right.
 
EB2 MS+2 Certified

I did filed MS+2 and just got certified within a Day. Thanks for your Help.


mvinays said:

Filing as MS+0 is perfectly fine. No risks involved. I know of many people in my compnay certified as MS+0.

1. If the applicant has MS+0, in ETA 9089 H.4 states Minimum is 'Master's', H.6(experience required) is 'No' and H.7(alternate requirements) is 'No', are these right answer's for qualification for EB2?
Yes, these answers are right.
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shovonbd said:
I did filed MS+2 and just got certified within a Day. Thanks for your Help.
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wow!! certified in a day!!1 amazing!!!

congrats!!! What did your lawyer answer for H-12? did they prepapre business necessity justification letter?
 
Thanks a bunch guys, I feel more confident now.

One question is still left unanswered, how can the Employer prove he recieved/not-recieved applications for the said job?

I know lack of software skill's cannot be given as a reason to reject a potential employee, so if the Employer recieves MS+0 application would that deter my PERM?

What valid reasons Employer can state to DOL for rejecting a MS+0 applicant?
 
stump said:
Thanks a bunch guys, I feel more confident now.

One question is still left unanswered, how can the Employer prove he recieved/not-recieved applications for the said job?

I know lack of software skill's cannot be given as a reason to reject a potential employee, so if the Employer recieves MS+0 application would that deter my PERM?

What valid reasons Employer can state to DOL for rejecting a MS+0 applicant?
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If the MS+0 is not in the required major field of study, the applicant can be lawfully rejected.

Example: If your 9089 requires MS+0 in Comp Sci. and applied candidate has MS+0 in Electrical Engineering, then employer can reject the applicant due to lack of required MS in Comp Sci.
 
my friend's PERM certified in 2 weeks with EB2+0

CS major, software engineering position, 0 yr experience. Less than 3 lines of job duty description (exactly same words as in his ad)
 
jfortune said:
CS major, software engineering position, 0 yr experience. Less than 3 lines of job duty description (exactly same words as in his ad)
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That is the smart way to file. Box H-11 (job duties) must exactly match ad. doesn't matter if it is has only 2 or 3 lines.

I know of people who got PERM denied in this forum and Murthy's forum where the ad text was slightly different from the text in Box H-11. DOL stated in the denial letter that the newspaper ad does not sufficiently apprise US workers of the job duies involved in the position and so the Sunday ads are invalid. This may happen if there are too many sentences in Box H-11 and too few sentecnes in the newspaper ad or vice versa.
 
1 Day Certified H12 YES

Basically My Laywer is kinda lame. I did guide her all the way.

We answered H12 YES. Although I crossed the SVP level, DOL didnt asked for Buss Just Letter.

Thanks for Your message U sent me once regarding the SVP.


mvinays said:
wow!! certified in a day!!1 amazing!!!

congrats!!! What did your lawyer answer for H-12? did they prepapre business necessity justification letter?
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To those certified with MS+0

I would like to ask you lucky guys with MS+0.
How about your answers to the question H.14 (specific skills or other requirements). Did you guys leave the answer blank or fill with something? If you put nothing there, how did you take care of millions of resumes from immigration breakers?
 
I got MS+2 ..Put some Prog Lang Tools Coursework...Make it Uncommon..U dont have to Have those BRO..Just for the Sake of Putiing...Also In ur Exp Letter put those...No One is gonna check that what really U have.



espresso said:
I would like to ask you lucky guys with MS+0.
How about your answers to the question H.14 (specific skills or other requirements). Did you guys leave the answer blank or fill with something? If you put nothing there, how did you take care of millions of resumes from immigration breakers?
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