Middle name

B

baikal3

Registered Users (C)
Hi,

I have a question regarding filling out N-400. In several places there it asks for the "full middle name". I don't actually have one, being from Russia. I do have a patronimic but I have never used it as a middle name in the U.S.

However, when I applied for a GC, INS decided to assign me a middle name or at least a middle initial on their own. Someone there saw a patronimic in my Russian passport, which is given there only in Russian and is not even transliterated. They (INS) transliterated the first letter of this patronimoc and put it as my middle initial on my I-485 and on my green card itself. Moreover, when later on I applied for a reentry permit, someone at USCIS transliterated my entire patronimic and they put that as my middle name in the reentry permit.


So I am not sure now what to put in the "full middle name" box in N-400. My inclanation is to leave it blank but I don't know if that might cause any problems.

I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
 
baikal3 said:
Hi,

I have a question regarding filling out N-400. In several places there it asks for the "full middle name". I don't actually have one, being from Russia. I do have a patronimic but I have never used it as a middle name in the U.S.

However, when I applied for a GC, INS decided to assign me a middle name or at least a middle initial on their own. Someone there saw a patronimic in my Russian passport, which is given there only in Russian and is not even transliterated. They (INS) transliterated the first letter of this patronimoc and put it as my middle initial on my I-485 and on my green card itself. Moreover, when later on I applied for a reentry permit, someone at USCIS transliterated my entire patronimic and they put that as my middle name in the reentry permit.

its simple...just put the name like it is on the greencard...
and then request for a name change and leave a note saying that you do not want to have a middle name.
P.S: once u become a american citizen its a long process to hae ur name changed...so plz think twice...

So I am not sure now what to put in the "full middle name" box in N-400. My inclanation is to leave it blank but I don't know if that might cause any problems.

I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Click to expand...
 
I really don't know what to say, though I've been through that at least kind of myself.

I never used my middle name prior to coming to the US, but since it's in my passport, they wanted me to use it in all those official forms and documents here. By now I'm used to it and it's not a big deal for me anymore.
Why don't you just live with it ?
 
Hi, Rex1960.

I guess I could get used to it, but it is certainly a nuissance. For one thing, the middle name the USCIS gave me is not conjugated correctly.

To illustrate the point, it says something like "Ivanovich" (just an example, that is not actually the patronimic I have in my passport), which literally means "son of Ivan". As such "Ivanovich" is not even a name and if one really wanted to convert this patronimic into a middle name it would have to be "Ivan".

Also, all of my other U.S. documents (driver's licence, social security card, credit cards, mortgage, bank accounts etc) do not have a middle name.

After reading through various threads pointed by query11 I took another look at my green card I discovered that at the very bottom it does have what USCIS wants me to use as a full middle name (like "Ivanovich").

So I guess I will use that on N-400 and request a legal name change there to have the middle name in its properly conjugated form....
 
baikal3 said:
To illustrate the point, it says something like "Ivanovich" (just an example, that is not actually the patronimic I have in my passport), which literally means "son of Ivan". As such "Ivanovich" is not even a name and if one really wanted to convert this patronimic into a middle name it would have to be "Ivan".
Click to expand...

I'm aware of the use of "father's name" in Russian. That doesn't appeal to me and my case since I'm German, which makes it different from your case. I see your point.
At least you probably simply use the middle initial, which is what I do, and that'll be "I" in your example no matter what.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top