marraige certificate address issue..URGENT

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forsms2002

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Until Oct 1992 (age = 19 as of Oct 1992) I was staying at Place:PL1 (Own house i.e. owned by my dad).
I had applied for my passport and hence it has address of place PL1.

In Nov 1992 I shifted to new place PL2 and am staying at this place till today.The is a government quarters and after my dad gets retire we may go back to PL1 or may be to a new place PL3.

The Sequence
a As PL2 is govt. qrtrs which must be left once my father retires; I did not change the address on my passport.
b Than I got married while at PL2. Since the Passport had PL1 address, the marraige certificate has the address of PL1 (i.e. Mr. xyz residing at PL1 got married to Miss. abc residing at ....).
c Then as my passport visa pages were full, I applied for "additional booklet" in which I gave address PL2 and for adding my wife's name to my "additional booklet" submitted the Marraige certificate. Now the "additional booklet" passport which is as good as a new passport (new passport number, wife name added,etc has address PL2. Ofcourse I also have my old passport with me.
The Query/Problem
While filling form DS230, Page2 Column 20 I have to specify PL1 from mm-yy to Oct -1992 and than PL2 from Nov-1992 to till-date.

Q1 Will this be cross-examined with the "residing at PL1" in the marraige certificate? or in the worst case if somebody notices it then can i say that since PL2 is a govt. qrtrs, I did not change it...until the Passport visa papers were full...

Q2 I will get the 2 PCCs one from PL1 which will say. Mr. xyz was staying at PL1 upto Oct 1992 and other from PL2 which will state that Mr xyz is staying at PL2 from Nov 1992 to till date. Will this be a problem?

Anybody gone thru such a situation?

Thanks in advance and restless and awaiting reply...
 
The Query/Problem
While filling form DS230, Page2 Column 20 I have to specify PL1 from mm-yy to Oct -1992 and than PL2 from Nov-1992 to till-date.

Answer: Correct
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Q1 Will this be cross-examined with the "residing at PL1" in the marraige certificate? or in the worst case if somebody notices it then can i say that since PL2 is a govt. qrtrs, I did not change it...until the Passport visa papers were full...

Answer: Will not be an issue..

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Q2 I will get the 2 PCCs one from PL1 which will say. Mr. xyz was staying at PL1 upto Oct 1992 and other from PL2 which will state that Mr xyz is staying at PL2 from Nov 1992 to till date. Will this be a problem?

Answer: PCC is issued for A PERSON, in A COUNTRY, for the ENTIRE DURATION. So you need 1 Indian PCC per person (assuming PL1 and PL2 are in the same country which appears to be india) for your stay in India since you were born. If you are in usa you apply for 1 pcc per person from indian consulate or if you are in india then you need 2 pcc's per person: 1 from local police where you currently reside and 1 from regional passport office. There is no need to get PCC from PL1 and PL2 as a PCC will cover your stay in India which is a SUPERSET of PL1 and PL2
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PCC Format

Thanks for that reply. KD, man, u r one hell of a contributor...Hats off. !!

If there will just one PCC for PL1 and PL2 places from the current (i.e. PL2) address, than what could be its contents which is acceptable to the consulate? The Packet-III document clearly says...The police certificate must cover the entire period of the applicants residence in that area...?

Can the format roughly be like I have stated below:
Start
Mr. XYZ residing at PL2 from Nov 1992 has no criminal/blah/blah/..records.
Mr. XYZ was residing at PL1 until Oct 1992 and there is no criminal/blha/blah.. records..
End

Do I need to tell the police officer that I need 1 PCC from my the day I was born to till date?

what should be its contents? Can anybody of more than 1 place of residence share in general the format/contents of such a certificate?

Thanks again !!
 
If you are in same place since your birth, you may get it. But they may not give you if you have resided in different places.

Generally, they will give for your current residence (say if you are staying in the current residence area since 2/3 years, then they will mention that)

But anyhow, you don't need to get since you were born.

Did you send any mail to consulate reg. this issue?
 
no..i have not contacted consulate

No, I have not contacted consulate regarding this issue. It's Mumbai consulate. Actaully, Packet-3 has been recevied by my lawyer and they have forwarded it to me. But I haven't received it yet.

I do understand that they don't need from the place I was born, but atleast from all the places I have stayed for more than six months after completion of my 16th birthday. So I was thinking that I will need PCC from PL1 and PL2 as well. Although as per discussion on this forum you have mentioned that I need PCC only from my current place of residence (I am staying here since Nov 1992). But if to be on the safe side... get it from PL1 also.

I wanted to know the general contents/format of certificates from PL1 and PL2.

Thanks to cpzinga and other members for their voluntery contribution.

Awaiting experiences from other members i.e. if they stayed for more than six months at PL1 and PL2 or more ...after the age of 16 and how many certifcates they submitted....

Hope this thread adds value for others also.
 
forsms2002:

Format of PCC is on a template. There is no way we can recommend any changes.

The PCC looks like this on Consulate letterhead:
" In case of Mr./ Mrs xx x xxxx, son/ daughter of Mr. xx x xxxx holder of passport number xxxxxx no asdverse information has been found till date that would give a reason for immigration decline"

I do not have my PCC in front of me but this is the kind of verbiage.
 
I concur with the post of kd regarding the format of the PCC,
even though I do not remember the exact sentence.

But why worry about the format when the consulate knows
precisely what they need to mention, and have done so thousands of times.

Issue of PCC involves the following two steps:

a) Give a letter as above on their letterhead.

b) Make a notation in your passport that the PCC was issued
on such and such date.

Raju
 
Raju, If I understand it correctly, "...their letter head." means on the letter head of police..right?

Also, I am totally unaware about "..Make a notation in your passport that the PCC was issued on such and such date..". Is this mentioned in the instruction???

KD, does that mean that the template or format/contents will be coming in Packet-3?

Thanks ,

Awating for reply..
 
forsms2002:

Raju, If I understand it correctly, "...their letter head." means on the letter head of police..right?

Answer: YEs letter head of the issuing authority which could be a consulate in usa OR local police & regional passport office in india

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Also, I am totally unaware about "..Make a notation in your passport that the PCC was issued on such and such date..". Is this mentioned in the instruction???

Answer: On issuance of PCC a notation is made in the passport that PCC with xxx reference number has been issued.

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KD, does that mean that the template or format/contents will be coming in Packet-3?

answer: The issuing authorities (consulate in usa or local police station and regional passport office) have a PCC template.

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forsms2002: here is my advice just apply for the PCC and everything will fall in place!
 
Originally posted by forsms2002
Raju, If I understand it correctly, "...their letter head." means on the letter head of police..right?

{As kd responded above, it will be the letterhead of the
issuing authority, who ever it is! }

Also, I am totally unaware about "..Make a notation in your passport that the PCC was issued on such and such date..". Is this mentioned in the instruction???

{It is understandable for one to be unaware. We are
saying this because we have seen this in our passports.

Having said this my above statement applies to a PCC
given out by the Indian Consulate in US.

If the same is obtained from a Passport office, then I do
not know if they make this notation, but I suspect they
would.

If the PCC is from the local police authorities then I think
they may not put any notation in your passport.

coming to your specific question ' is this mentioned in the
instruction?' - I do not know what instructions you are
referring to ! }


KD, does that mean that the template or format/contents will be coming in Packet-3?

Thanks ,

Awating for reply..
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{my responses}

Raju
 
I am in India

I am in india and will be asking PCC from police station(s) in india.

Will all the police stations in India (I mean the mumbai metro and its suburbs) would know the format of PCC?

If I go to a police station and tell them that I need a PCC for GC, and if the Police tells that they don't know the format..than in that case, what should I do? Do I call the Mumbai Consulate and tell them the reality and ask them to provide a template/format/contents?

"instructions" means the instructions which comes along with the Packet 3.

Thanks,

Awaiting for reply
 
Re: I am in India

Originally posted by forsms2002
I am in india and will be asking PCC from police station(s) in india.

Will all the police stations in India (I mean the mumbai metro and its suburbs) would know the format of PCC?

{Will all the police stations in India (.........) would know the
format of PCC ?? - I don't know!!

But usually offices like the Commissioner or Asst.Commissioner's office would deal with the issue of PCCs and
I am sure they have done this before and know what needs to
be done }

If I go to a police station and tell them that I need a PCC for GC, and if the Police tells that they don't know the format..than in that case, what should I do? Do I call the Mumbai Consulate and tell them the reality and ask them to provide a template/format/contents?

{If you approach the right office this situation would not
arise.}

"instructions" means the instructions which comes along with the Packet 3.

Thanks,

Awaiting for reply
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{my responses}

Scores of people have walked this road, and my advise to
you is, to look around in the forum and you would find specific
references to the subject you are interested in.

Raju
 
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