June, July , Aug visa prediction is here ...

perm_lc

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There are 3 issues to determine visa availability for next 4 months. It is very difficult for DOS to meet those and move the dates accordingly at the same time to meet the rules and regulation.

1. Anticipated demand based on BPC efforts – It is/was conservative step taken by DOS in last 2 years. DOS made slow movement of cutoff dates in previous months, based on anticipation of massive clearance of old LC from BPC. Because of that, lot of visas numbers may be available, as, this FY 2007 does not see much movement in cutoff dates compare to last year. That’s why they moved the EB3-Row by one year to consume as much as possible.

2. Actual Demand: Now only 4 months left. Even if a guy files a new 485 (due to recent approval of his very old LC by BPC) now his/her 485 may not get approved before the end of FY 2007. They need at least 4 to 6 months to process and approve newly filed 485s. Therefore they have to approve only the 485s that were filed already before retrogression kicked in, and pending due to retrogression. Therefore effect or demand of one year movement of EB3-ROW will reflect only in FY 2008. No one has any clue how the demand will be.


3. Minimizing wastage of visas: In order to maximize the usage of visas before Sep 2007 (unlike last year), they need to drastically move the cutoff dates. If they do so, there will be a tons of 485s will be filed and not able to adjudicated before the end of FY. Therefore only beneficial is who ever filed the 485 before retrogression kicked in. Next question is How far they move..?, it is a million dollar question. They may be taking a decision something similar to “filing 485 without PD or visa numbers” so that they can approve as much as possible to consume all the numbers before Sep 2007. If tons of 485s are eligible to be approved before Sep 2007, they may say “U” to all EB3 categories in Sep 2007 after issuing all visas without wastage.

Based on all this analysis on one can not come to any conclusion how far they move in June, July, Aug as DOS itself may not have any clue :) .
 
I thought this posting was about prediction...

I thought this posting was about prediction...

There are 3 issues to determine visa availability for next 4 months. It is very difficult for DOS to meet those and move the dates accordingly at the same time to meet the rules and regulation.

1. Anticipated demand based on BPC efforts – It is/was conservative step taken by DOS in last 2 years. DOS made slow movement of cutoff dates in previous months, based on anticipation of massive clearance of old LC from BPC. Because of that, lot of visas numbers may be available, as, this FY 2007 does not see much movement in cutoff dates compare to last year. That’s why they moved the EB3-Row by one year to consume as much as possible.

2. Actual Demand: Now only 4 months left. Even if a guy files a new 485 (due to recent approval of his very old LC by BPC) now his/her 485 may not get approved before the end of FY 2007. They need at least 4 to 6 months to process and approve newly filed 485s. Therefore they have to approve only the 485s that were filed already before retrogression kicked in, and pending due to retrogression. Therefore effect or demand of one year movement of EB3-ROW will reflect only in FY 2008. No one has any clue how the demand will be.


3. Minimizing wastage of visas: In order to maximize the usage of visas before Sep 2007 (unlike last year), they need to drastically move the cutoff dates. If they do so, there will be a tons of 485s will be filed and not able to adjudicated before the end of FY. Therefore only beneficial is who ever filed the 485 before retrogression kicked in. Next question is How far they move..?, it is a million dollar question. They may be taking a decision something similar to “filing 485 without PD or visa numbers” so that they can approve as much as possible to consume all the numbers before Sep 2007. If tons of 485s are eligible to be approved before Sep 2007, they may say “U” to all EB3 categories in Sep 2007 after issuing all visas without wastage.

Based on all this analysis on one can not come to any conclusion how far they move in June, July, Aug as DOS itself may not have any clue :) .
 
Dudes, we can all do the guesswork....as long as the data is there.....The visa office has access to this data....But, they are not willing to share the info...

If only, they shared the info on how many I485s are in ready to approve stage by country and PD....It wouldn't take more than a simple calculation to figure when each of us might be eligible for green cards.....
 
This is my prediction of visa bullition for June/July

Anticipated Demand

EB3 ROW – DEC 2003
EB3 INDIA – JUL 2001
EB2 INDIA – MAR 2003

Actual Demand

EB3 ROW – AUG 2004
EB3 India – DEC 2001
EB3 India – July 2003

To minimize the visa loss

EB3 ROW – Dec 2004
EB3 India – July 2002
EB3 India – July 2004
 
perm_lc,
congratulations for doing this almost single handedly :D :D when all the other stalwarts of the game busy doing other drama. I would go with your

Actual Demand
EB3 ROW – AUG 2004
EB3 India – DEC 2001
EB2 India – July 2003

for the movement predictions.
 
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Perm_lc has initially raised an important point. At this point time of the financial year any new filer can not be adjudicated before the end of the financial year. It means those already filed should be adjudicated.No matter how much they advance the priority date now, if USCIS/DOS does not want visa go wasted, it may mean adjudicating cases inside the current priority date. If there are not enough applications with current priority date then there is even possibility of adjudicating already filed cases even with priority date in the year 2003.
What do you think about this possibility guys?

:D
 
Its possible ..

Perm_lc has initially raised an important point. At this point time of the financial year any new filer can not be adjudicated before the end of the financial year. It means those already filed should be adjudicated.No matter how much they advance the priority date now, if USCIS/DOS does not want visa go wasted, it may mean adjudicating cases inside the current priority date. If there are not enough applications with current priority date then there is even possibility of adjudicating already filed cases even with priority date in the year 2003.
What do you think about this possibility guys?

:D

Charlatan,

If the demand is indeed low as has been indicated in the last bulletin then they should move PDs forward as you have described. My personal thought is that they will still be conservative in June-July bulletin and then depending on the number of cases they see they will adjust in the August-Sept bulletin. Hoepfully the adjustment will be on the aggresive side.

I think it would be wise for them to move India EB3 to atleast Dec '01. They can scale back if to many cases become current.

India EB2 is a mystery to me. It seems like there are to many cases with India EB2 PDs in 03 and beyond. Not sure what might happen there.

cheers,

saras
 
China & India EB2 and EB3 WILL MOVE IN JUNE

I guess the USCIS has been conservative enough so far this year on all EB categories and that is the reason EB3 ROW had moved by a year in May 2007 bulletin. The stupid conservative approach already resulted in losing 11000 EB Visas last year.

And as I stated in my first posting under another forum, the fee increase is imminent effective June 1, 2007 and the USCIS will not loose by opening up the PDs a little bit to allow the applicants to apply for I-485s, EADs, and APs. It doesn't matter then if the dates are retrogressed later in September of October neither for USCIS nor for the applicants who could use AC21 after 6 months and then wait for about a couple of years to get the GCs. Added to the fee increase is the ultimate publication of labor-sub elimination, which in my opinion should have NEVER been introduced.

Since the June 2007 bulletin has not yet been published as on Sunday night (05/13/2007), I thought I could make my two-cent prediction.

"Well-Wisher for all EBs"
 
This is my prediction of visa bullition for June/July

Anticipated Demand

EB3 ROW – DEC 2003
EB3 INDIA – JUL 2001
EB2 INDIA – MAR 2003

Actual Demand

EB3 ROW – AUG 2004
EB3 India – DEC 2001
EB3 India – July 2003

To minimize the visa loss


EB3 ROW – Dec 2004
EB3 India – July 2002
EB2 India – July 2004

My third estimation is little close on june visa bulliton.
 
hi

Hi Perm_LC
So what do you think will be movement in July and August
Will EB3 Retrogress again in September to a date behind the one mentioned in June Bulletin?
 
Congratulations perm_lc !

for the perfect prediction of priority dates in June bulletin. What are your thoughts on India EB2 movement in July bulletin ?

PERM PD: Nov 2005
I-140 approved: July 2006
Waiting to apply I-485
 
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Congrats to everyone who will become current on June 1, 2007

My PD (nov 2005 - EB3- ROW) is not yet curent, it is close but it may also be eons away as well.


anyone care to predict how will EB3 ROW move in July?

:( :( :( :cool: :cool:
 
hats off!

Thanks! . By far the most educated guess I have seen so far in these forums. Your reasoning was right on the money. Your reasoning + the reasoning that fee increase is effective from June 1st makes great sense.

There are 3 issues to determine visa availability for next 4 months. It is very difficult for DOS to meet those and move the dates accordingly at the same time to meet the rules and regulation.

1. Anticipated demand based on BPC efforts – It is/was conservative step taken by DOS in last 2 years. DOS made slow movement of cutoff dates in previous months, based on anticipation of massive clearance of old LC from BPC. Because of that, lot of visas numbers may be available, as, this FY 2007 does not see much movement in cutoff dates compare to last year. That’s why they moved the EB3-Row by one year to consume as much as possible.

2. Actual Demand: Now only 4 months left. Even if a guy files a new 485 (due to recent approval of his very old LC by BPC) now his/her 485 may not get approved before the end of FY 2007. They need at least 4 to 6 months to process and approve newly filed 485s. Therefore they have to approve only the 485s that were filed already before retrogression kicked in, and pending due to retrogression. Therefore effect or demand of one year movement of EB3-ROW will reflect only in FY 2008. No one has any clue how the demand will be.


3. Minimizing wastage of visas: In order to maximize the usage of visas before Sep 2007 (unlike last year), they need to drastically move the cutoff dates. If they do so, there will be a tons of 485s will be filed and not able to adjudicated before the end of FY. Therefore only beneficial is who ever filed the 485 before retrogression kicked in. Next question is How far they move..?, it is a million dollar question. They may be taking a decision something similar to “filing 485 without PD or visa numbers” so that they can approve as much as possible to consume all the numbers before Sep 2007. If tons of 485s are eligible to be approved before Sep 2007, they may say “U” to all EB3 categories in Sep 2007 after issuing all visas without wastage.

Based on all this analysis on one can not come to any conclusion how far they move in June, July, Aug as DOS itself may not have any clue :) .
 
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