WellWisher007
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Found these posts by 'logiclife' & 'myimmivoice' on IV forum - a very interesting perspective:
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logiclife
Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 244
Ethnic diversity and hard cap
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First of all, ethnicity has nothing to do with hard cap.
First of all, you have to understand what hard-cap implies. Hard cap is a new thing proposed in the bill out of judiciary commitee that PREVENTS over-subscribed countries(Usually that's India and China each year) from using the UNUSED visa numbers each year.
EMPHASIS ON UNUSED.
So, given the 10 percent per country(it is 7% today) each country can and would use UPTO 10 percent of available visas first. FIRST. Usually what happens is that India and China use up their numbers and other countries do not use their own quota. So the unused numbers would be then alloted to India and China rather than being unused to diverted to FB categories.
So the removal of hard cap has NOTHING to do with diversity - ethnically or nationality-wise. HARD CAP DOES NOT PROTECT any country.
Today, the soft cap exists, and the numbers are retrogressed only for India and China. REST of the world is current. Hard cap would make things worse for only those countries that have higher demand and WASTE the visa numbers.
Please get your analysis on hard-cap Vs Soft-cap, the visa usage numbers etc. before you emphasize ethnic diversity as the two have NOTHING to do with each other.
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Originally Posted by myimmivoice
The IV is about issues/problems of employment based immigrants, and the goal is to get support as much as possible from every corner in this country to further the cause. Everyone who supports this cause fit in to some category (within legal limits - pro, anti, this group, that lobby, this ethincity, that nationality, etc.), and that does not mean we are promoting something or have preferences for a group. In my opinion any support (with in the legal framework) to the cause of IV from any corner in this country is welcome and should be appreciated.
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logiclife
Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 244
Ethnic diversity and hard cap
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First of all, ethnicity has nothing to do with hard cap.
First of all, you have to understand what hard-cap implies. Hard cap is a new thing proposed in the bill out of judiciary commitee that PREVENTS over-subscribed countries(Usually that's India and China each year) from using the UNUSED visa numbers each year.
EMPHASIS ON UNUSED.
So, given the 10 percent per country(it is 7% today) each country can and would use UPTO 10 percent of available visas first. FIRST. Usually what happens is that India and China use up their numbers and other countries do not use their own quota. So the unused numbers would be then alloted to India and China rather than being unused to diverted to FB categories.
So the removal of hard cap has NOTHING to do with diversity - ethnically or nationality-wise. HARD CAP DOES NOT PROTECT any country.
Today, the soft cap exists, and the numbers are retrogressed only for India and China. REST of the world is current. Hard cap would make things worse for only those countries that have higher demand and WASTE the visa numbers.
Please get your analysis on hard-cap Vs Soft-cap, the visa usage numbers etc. before you emphasize ethnic diversity as the two have NOTHING to do with each other.
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Originally Posted by myimmivoice
The IV is about issues/problems of employment based immigrants, and the goal is to get support as much as possible from every corner in this country to further the cause. Everyone who supports this cause fit in to some category (within legal limits - pro, anti, this group, that lobby, this ethincity, that nationality, etc.), and that does not mean we are promoting something or have preferences for a group. In my opinion any support (with in the legal framework) to the cause of IV from any corner in this country is welcome and should be appreciated.
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