Is US citizenship worthy now??

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Is US citizenship worthy now that SS benefit is very likely gone when we retire as US citizens?


My home country does not allow dual citizenship status.

What are your opinions?
 
Originally posted by applyforcitizen
Is US citizenship worthy now that SS benefit is very likely gone when we retire as US citizens?


My home country does not allow dual citizenship status.

What are your opinions?
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SS benefits are not for US citizens alone, even GC holders are eligible. There are other benefits of being a US citizen beyond just SS issues.
 
Come on, SS benefit is NOT the only benefit citizenship provides!
With citizenship,
you have the right to vote,
you have the freedom to travel anywhere with any length of time,
you can apply GC for your immediate relatives
your GC can be revoked by various reasons but citizenship is a much more stable status
possible to get a government job
the list goes on and on and I think the SS benefit is the least thing to be concerned.
 
Originally posted by applyforcitizen
Is US citizenship worthy now that SS benefit is very likely gone when we retire as US citizens?


My home country does not allow dual citizenship status.

What are your opinions?
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What are you talking about? What is gone?:confused:
 
Re: Re: Is US citizenship worthy now??

YES,

My point is that without SS benefit likely, how do we support ourselves financially after retirement? Being a GC holder of US, I can keep my home country citizenship and get some financial assistance if I decide to return to home country.

What is the point to be a US citizen if I cannot feed my family after retirement ?



Originally posted by JoeF
Huh? What does citizenship have to do with social security?
You are confused...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Is US citizenship worthy now??

Not true, cost of living is much, much lower in my home country compared to where I am living in US. Being a US citizen does not allow me to apply for some benefit in my home country.

It is good to have retirement "nestegg" yourself, but are they sufficient in case of medical emergence?



Originally posted by JoeF
That question does not change with citizenship or without.
Quite frankly, if you counted on Social Security to be there when you retire, you were horribly naive. It is known for over a decade that Social Security is anything but secure.
What, something comparable to Medicaid here?

Fact is that you should take care of your retirement "nestegg" yourself, anyway.
A lot of companies have 401(k)s, IRAs, etc.
These are the way to go.
If you can't feed your family here, you wouldn't be able to feed it anywhere else...

You are still confused...
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If you are planning to retire in your home country, which doesn't allow for dual citizenship, then generally speaking you shouldn't apply for US Citizenship.
That's what the GC is for.
 
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I don’t understand your point here.

“In a medical emergency, the lower cost of living in your home county doesn't help you”

With US $5000 in your pocket helps very little even with a minor medical operation. But converting that same amount into home country currency would definitely cover the expenses for the medical need.

My point is simple: without SS and medicare benefit, being a US citizen is no better than being a GC holder because latter offers you some flexibility at least you can return to home country.




Originally posted by JoeF
In a medical emergency, the lower cost of living in your home county doesn't help you.
So, you are still lumping different issues together...
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My question is:

Is there ANY difference:
-when it comes to federal benefits, -between a USC and GC holder
-within the United States?

I don't know about any.

US Citizenship is about whether or not you want US to be your true home. If you are looking for some monetary or other benefits over a GC holder I don't think you will find any.
It's about allegiance, community and civil duties. Not about dollars. It's about US being your home country, not the other home country, regardless whether it recognizes dual citizenship or not.

- My $0.01

My second $0.01:
Soc. Sec. is not going anywhere. Only if politicians are going with it and they don't seem to be leaving anytime soon.
 
Originally posted by JoeF
Yes. The 1996 changes to the immigration law prohibited most public aid to PRs. This was changed a bit in 2001, but there still is a 5 year waiting period for PRs.
And of course, Congress can change it again...
;)
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What exactly is public aid? Welfare, any social benefits beyond unemployment?
 
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