Is Early FP worth it !!!!

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puneet_gcard

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Hi Friends
I need your help or input on this issue. Is there any negative impact on early FP. My appointment is on Jul 14 and I wanted to do it in the next couple of weeks. I am thinking that by doing it early USCIS might process my case quicker.

But I hope it will NOT delay the processing of my case or have any negative impact on it. Could you guys please post your experiences/knowledge on this issue.

Thanks in advance !!
Puneet
 
No issues. Go ahead.

Hi Jharkand. Thanks for letting us know. Do you know of anyone whose case was approved quickly after he did early FP. Because I read in the FP forum that someone's case got delayed by 4 months because of early FP. Dont know how authentic that info is and that is why I am asking the question.

In order to save 1 month we dont wanna lose 4 or more. :)
 
I do not think early FP is a problem. In this forum there are lots of people who have done early FP from various city/states and they did not have any problems. with 1 case we cannot decide that early FP will cause problems/delay it by a couple of months.

I think there are no problmes.

Cheers
 
Early or late FP don't make any difference in approval - that is another (perhaps widespread) fallacy.
 
If can do early FP, that's better. But don't die or be desparate for it. Because early FP does not help to prepone your approval date. As long as any USCIS adjucating officer is not working on your case, there is no possibility of getting approval - no matter how fast you do your FP.
 
Thanks Guys !! Your input is really appreciated.

So it seems like we can get RFE even before we complete 2nd FP and there is no possibility of getting approval before 2nd FP. I guess I will probly just wait till the scheduled date. Who knows how USCIS may react. They may call us as a NO SHOW since we didnt show up on the FP date even if we did it earlier. :) :) . Who knows how their system works anyway.
 
One and the same

Whether you go early or on the same date... it's one and the same...
End result will be - "DELAY"

- Flam
 
Hi puneet_gc,

I did early FP and my case status is also updated with my 2nd FP. What do you mean by NO SHOW? My FP is already done, FBI has sent the results to USCIS and their system is updated. Do you mean still they will think it is a NO SHOW?

Another assumption you made is you may get RFE even if your 2nd FP is pending. I do not think it is TRUE. It may be true for cases whose FP has not expired. They may get RFE (In the first pass, their case may be Adjudication ready(non-expired 1st FP), so goes to an IIO and they get RFE. If by their RFE response time, their FP is still valid, they may get approved, if it has expired, they will get 2nd FP notice and subsequent approval). But, in the cases, where 1st FP has expired, you first get 2nd FP notice (not RFE, the case will not even go to IIO as it is not adjudication ready). Then, you complete your 2nd FP, case becomes adjudication ready and makes it to IIO in the next pass.

Thus, if I go for 2nd FP earlier, my case becomes adjudication ready faster, thereby increasing the chance of getting to the IIO for adjudication. Of course, if they do not make a pass in the mean time, it will make no difference whether I do it early or not.

This is just my observation.

-sk
 
skjun02 said:
Thus, if I go for 2nd FP earlier, my case becomes adjudication ready faster, thereby increasing the chance of getting to the IIO for adjudication.
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Not necessarily true. Your case becomes ready for adjucation no matter whether you did FP or not. FP and adjucation are both parallel thing. Now, if IIO completed adjucation, and you did not do FP yet, in that case your approval will be delayed. But if your case is still on the rack and no officer is working on your case, early FP does not help.
 
As per some earlier post (Someone quoted the entirte adjudication process), I remember, only "Adjudication Ready" (Valid FP and name check) cases go to IIOs for processing. Thus, if an FP has expired, it will not make to IIO's desk, until it is redone.

Would appreciate other member's comments.

-sk
 
What do you mean by NO SHOW? My FP is already done, FBI has sent the results to USCIS and their system is updated. Do you mean still they will think it is a NO SHOW?

Hi Skjun 02. No. I didnt mean that. What I am saying is that maybe it is better not to mess with the already confused USCIS. Their process is anyway so screwed up. Havent you heard of the case in CSC where they shred someone's case. Moreover they have lost the RFE for someone on this forum.

Can you call this very organized process. What if they just dont get the FP records and say that you did a NO SHOW. I am not sayin it will happen but who knows how they function.

My main purpose is just to get an idea if the process can be expedited by doing FP earlier. But from most of the responses I dont think it makes a difference. So maybe our cases will be ADJUDICATION READY even in 2FP is not done. Only we wont get approval till they are completed.

Does anyone know of any urls which can shed more light on this subject ?? :confused:
 
Thanks, Puneet. I was also a bit hesitant to go for early FP, but took the chance. As you say, nothing is clearly defined and you never know the way USCIS works. There are always contradictions available to prove all hypotheses wrong.

-sk
 
pralay said:
Not necessarily true. Your case becomes ready for adjucation no matter whether you did FP or not. FP and adjucation are both parallel thing. Now, if IIO completed adjucation, and you did not do FP yet, in that case your approval will be delayed. But if your case is still on the rack and no officer is working on your case, early FP does not help.
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pralay,
I agree with skjun02. A case cannot be "Adjudication ready" without having anything to validate against. The basis for this validation is to have a valid FP and a name check that passes security check. Only then the case would be sent to an IIO. THis process is logical and makes sense since you wouldnt want to forward a case to an IIO when you know the IIO cannot process it any further without having this necessary information.

For further info - refer www.murthy.com

rgds,
 
puneet_gcard said:
.So maybe our cases will be ADJUDICATION READY even in 2FP is not done. Only we wont get approval till they are completed.
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2nd FP is new thing for employment based I-485s. According to my attorney, before 9/11 it was very rare to go for 2nd FP (even if the 1st FP is expired already). But after 9/11 and USCIS moved from DOj to DHS, things have been changed and it became mandatory if 1st FP expired.
 
Pre 9/11, INS used to ask for FP(1st) when they were close to process the case. Thus, there was substantial gap between I-485 application and 1st FP. Getting the 1st FP notice was indicative that your case will be apporved in 4-6 months. After getting 1st FP, they used to issue RFE (also rare) or approve.
That time entire I-485 processing used to take 11-18 months.

Later at some point, they issued 1st FP notice within a month of receipt of I-485. As the backlog increased, this early 1st FP process proved detrimental as it expired in 15 months. If the processing is taking 24 months, there is no point is sending an immediate FP notice knowing that it will expire and necessiate another FP.

We also see some Sept-Nov 2002 approvals for some lucky guys whose 1st FP was fortunately delayed, thereby making their case adjudication ready and getting earlier approval on the basis of their valid 1st FP.

In any case, there is no point in analyzing all this. It is better to wait, watch and see the way USCIS works. Trying to interprete the seemingly illogical and random process would only make one insane.

-sk
 
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