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Punjabi_Munda

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Hi Guys I was reading another thread where I found this following question. I was wondering if we can ask few asylees who recently received their GC about their "Resident Since Date: "
Here is the post from SBWSOON...... Thanks

My card has been approved recently and received my green card. It is surprised that I saw on my card "Resident since 05/23/2001". I thought that It should be "Resident since my approved date". Is there any policy change? Does that mean that I can start my citizenship processing on 05/23/2006 (after 5 years)? Anybody has the same situation. I hope that it is policy change which will shoot our citizenship processing and save lots of time.
 
I gues it is a USCIS mistake

His RD is 12/04/2002 so he must be a work based I-485 or maybe a refugee.
However I cannot understand how can it show that his residence is since 05/23/2001 when he applied only in December of 2002.

Alex
 
You are correct...

Alex,
His card was work related and yes he did apply in 2002. 2001 was his priority date and that's what they out om his card. I was wondering may be they are doing the same for asylees. Meaning may be put our asylum approval date on the green card. Just a thought....
 
That would be nice

However, I don't expect anything nice from USCIS. I only expect from them to make our lives more miserable. It is obvious that asylees are treated here the same way they were treated in their respective countries, second class citizens. I am very dissapointed in them.

To give asylees their residence status from the time they were approved asylum would not be nice, but the only thing fair to do. But as everybody on this forum can testify we are expected to be thankful to death for simple things that other people take for granted.

Alex
 
I hate to tell you this, but according to the Immigration Act, Asylees will get their Green Card 'issued' dates backdated one year from the date of approval. Refugees however, get their Green Cards backdated to the date of entry (which is the date they were granted refugee status).

You have to understand that this backlog is not a backlog as far as the government is concerned. They only allow 10K visas per fiscal year and so they are not responsible for the delay. [Doesn't matter that the Nebraska Service Center screwed up 22K visas and further delayed us! Or that more than 10K cases are being granted asylum per year.] So, I'm afraid all asylee GCs will only be backdated one year.

And to answer the original poster's question.. YES - one can apply for citizenship five years from the issue date on the GC. Actually one can apply 90 days prior to satisfying the five year residence requirement.
 
I think there is a valid reason for treating refugees better than asylees. Refugees arrive in this country in an organized fashion, at the invitation of the US government. We asylees, by contrast, enter without inspection, use fraudulent travel documents or conceal our asylum intents at our visa interviews. The U.S. Government needs to maintain a degree of control over its borders.

Moreover, judging by the number of people who are inclined to "go home" or to renew their country passports, it is extremely hard to garner sympathy on behalf of asylees.

We (as a collective group) cannot have it both ways: your country is abusive toward you that you ask for international protection, then you can go back and have a nice vacation!!!


LolaLi said:
I hate to tell you this, but according to the Immigration Act, Asylees will get their Green Card 'issued' dates backdated one year from the date of approval. Refugees however, get their Green Cards backdated to the date of entry (which is the date they were granted refugee status).

You have to understand that this backlog is not a backlog as far as the government is concerned. They only allow 10K visas per fiscal year and so they are not responsible for the delay. [Doesn't matter that the Nebraska Service Center screwed up 22K visas and further delayed us! Or that more than 10K cases are being granted asylum per year.] So, I'm afraid all asylee GCs will only be backdated one year.

And to answer the original poster's question.. YES - one can apply for citizenship five years from the issue date on the GC. Actually one can apply 90 days prior to satisfying the five year residence requirement.
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I think there is a valid reason for treating refugees better than asylees. Refugees arrive in this country in an organized fashion, at the invitation of the US government. We asylees, by contrast, enter without inspection, use fraudulent travel documents or conceal our asylum intents at our visa interviews. The U.S. Government needs to maintain a degree of control over its borders. Moreover, judging by the number of people who are inclined to "go home" or to renew their country passports, it is extremely hard to garner sympathy on behalf of asylees. We (as a collective group) cannot have it both ways: your country is abusive toward you that you ask for international protection, then you can go back and have a nice vacation!!!


What kind of reasoning is this? Or you are trying to get a reaction by taunting those of us who have suffered alot? Your were being mean and there is no good reason for it. :mad:
Yes Asylees are here at the “invitation of the US government,”
By saying “we asylees, by contrast, enter without inspection, use fraudulent travel documents or conceal our asylum intents at our visa interviews, ” you must be talking about yourself, otherwise how could you talk on behalf of a diverse population like this.

From your reasoning --So when refugees "go home" .. .., it easy to garner sympathy on behalf of refugees?

You are not making any sense....
 
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I think there is a huge misconception to the world that EVERY ASYLEE Is a fraud!! True there may be cases out there but usually an asylee tries to protect his life and belongings by any means for his/her safety. I know many sudanese dying out there..but u.s govt would bring only FEW as refugess..so are you saying that U.S government gives them a chance to live or die?

In my opinion, an Asylee is a person who wanted to live and tried his best(Even using fraudlent documents) to get into this country while refugees who are helped by other western governments to relocate and safety

My point is...Asylee or Refugee..Asylee goes through more crap to prove his case than a refugee. I don't see WHY a valid ASYLEE from somalia is different than a refugee from somalia...They both suffered the same but its just the ONE WAS picked by a U.S agent to be relocated.

If a FAKE ASYLUM Case was approved. I wouldn't fault that to the asylee but to the U.S Government who ARE TRAINED to smell out a fake case rather than ASYLEES being traned to fool a Immigration officer.
 
Have some compassion please

1. I agree, there is a lot of fraud in the process, but unfortunately on both refugee and asylee side. Refugees go home as much as asylees do

2. Please look at US refugee quotas for different countries: Africa gets hardly any numbers at all, and can we just contemplate how much prosecution and suffering there is there? Far more (if this can be measured) than many other places that get big refugee quotas. The process is VERY complicated and that is why there is the asylum option

3. If you put your ass on the line for democracy in your country, and then the Congress does not approve a refugee quota on time (by the way, by the time the quota IS approved half of those same refugees are raped, tortured or lost family members), and some mean ass people are going to potentially imprison, rape or torture you, I guess you would just stay there, right? You woul dnot try to get your wife and children out, because you want to respect the laws of Western countries?

4. Since I got to this country I did not use any public assistance whatsoever. I had absolutely no family or close friends to help me here. Refugees have agencies to help them out and they do get a lot of money and assistance. So I think there is a difference right there.

5. Although this was not my case: do you ever think of how traumatic it is trying to leave the country on fake documents that one had to make just because they are of "wrong" nationality or have been outspoken against a brutal regime? Do you know how many people don't make it? I guess we should cheer for random police and mafia that gets those people who don't make it to the US....God, I am getting angrier by the minute!

Have some compassion, please.
 
Hey guys all of you are right,but one thing you have to know is that each case varies.Some asylees aquired US visa with the intention of fleeing their country not because they wanted to leave but because they had to do anything possible to leave and file for asylum as soon as they got here ,others came here with different visa categories e.g students,business etc,but when they got here they changed their minds and filed for asylum it`s not because they do not have genuine reasons to seek for asylum but because they do not have the know how about the process or even scared to file.The waiver we file eliminates most of the huddles as long you have a genuine reasons or convicingly demonstrate that your life will be in danger if you go back to home country. I suggest that you do not bite your tongues.To me i see no difference between refugees and asylees in terms of aquiring residence and citizenship,I thing it is sad, backward and pathetic
 
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But you do forget that getting an asylum approved is no piece of cake. The officers do not simply believe in any B.S!!!...If you lie and can prove your lie, my hats off to you..but its not as simple as some ppl make it seem.
 
Well most people come to USA with atent to stay.
I don't think somebody come from third world country just to visit USA, than changing there mind and filing for asylum. Refugees are lucky and financially poor .


care2much
 
Care2much said:
Well most people come to USA with atent to stay.
I don't think somebody come from third world country just to visit USA, than changing there mind and filing for asylum. Refugees are lucky and financially poor .

You might be correct all you have to do is to look at your own situation and fight yourself out of bondage.I for one was able to demonstrate that at the time i got the US visa my intention was not to stay here.I love my dear country than anyother country,but the situation that prompted me to leave the country changed since i already had the visa although I fled my country when the US visa was about to expire.I was totally confused about seeking asylum but the questionaires guided me to answer promptly.Again I care less how other people have seeked asylum,at the end you `re going to carry your own burden not that i`m not sympathetic.
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