GC_Paranoid
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Very good job.
I got a job offer after the GC approval
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patienceGC
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congrats!
Luck seems to be on your side
Luck seems to be on your side
GC_Paranoid
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Thanks. PatienceGC. I have suffered long enough.
Job change after GC
People keep saying that one must stay with the same employer for at least 6 months but my lawyer says that it doesnt not matter even if you change earlier just that your relations with your current employer must be good. I don't know what that means. Good relations so that they don't inform INS that you left them so soon ???? I don't know. Maybe if they do tell INS then your GC can be revoked. There have been some such cases specially when they apply for citizenship because they check employment history when you apply for naturalization and then if they find that you just dumped your employer after getting GC very soon then that would indicate you committed fraud during GC process. The whole thing is very convoluted. Nobody knows the right answer.
People keep saying that one must stay with the same employer for at least 6 months but my lawyer says that it doesnt not matter even if you change earlier just that your relations with your current employer must be good. I don't know what that means. Good relations so that they don't inform INS that you left them so soon ???? I don't know. Maybe if they do tell INS then your GC can be revoked. There have been some such cases specially when they apply for citizenship because they check employment history when you apply for naturalization and then if they find that you just dumped your employer after getting GC very soon then that would indicate you committed fraud during GC process. The whole thing is very convoluted. Nobody knows the right answer.
GreenPatta
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My two and 1/2 cents
Green card is for a job an individual hopes to hold in the future.
So, technically the time you have spent before your GC is approved with the sponsoring company does not matter.
When you apply for GC it is assumed that you will stay with the sponsoring company for a lifetime (I know this sounds funny). When the green card is approved it is assumed that the applicant has the "intention" to stay with the sponsoring company.
If you change the company immediately after the GC is approved, obviously the "intent" can come under scrutiny. On the other other, if the company goes out of business or if the company is down-sizing and if you have the letter stating so, you should be ok.
I was told you should work with the sponsoring company 6months to 1 year to be on the safer side. On the other hand, there are people who have left jobs post 180 days(some even before) of I-485 RD and have got the GC approved. so ... I really dont know the correct answer.
What I could suggest is that every individual should take into account his/her employment comfort level with his/her sponsoring company. If you can, stay a lil longer .... if its very painful, leave the company post GC and dont regret if things dont go ur way in the future. How much risk you r willing to take depends solely on you and no one can make this decision for you.
Just my point of view ... dont beat me up for offering my two and 1/2 cents
Green card is for a job an individual hopes to hold in the future.
So, technically the time you have spent before your GC is approved with the sponsoring company does not matter.
When you apply for GC it is assumed that you will stay with the sponsoring company for a lifetime (I know this sounds funny). When the green card is approved it is assumed that the applicant has the "intention" to stay with the sponsoring company.
If you change the company immediately after the GC is approved, obviously the "intent" can come under scrutiny. On the other other, if the company goes out of business or if the company is down-sizing and if you have the letter stating so, you should be ok.
I was told you should work with the sponsoring company 6months to 1 year to be on the safer side. On the other hand, there are people who have left jobs post 180 days(some even before) of I-485 RD and have got the GC approved. so ... I really dont know the correct answer.
What I could suggest is that every individual should take into account his/her employment comfort level with his/her sponsoring company. If you can, stay a lil longer .... if its very painful, leave the company post GC and dont regret if things dont go ur way in the future. How much risk you r willing to take depends solely on you and no one can make this decision for you.
Just my point of view ... dont beat me up for offering my two and 1/2 cents
Re: Job change after GC
i did a lot of research on the immigration.com forums and other on-line sources regarding the issue of job switching after GC approval. in conclusion, i have came up with a theory that is same as the lawyer's advice quoted above.
as long as NO ONE reports the possibility of a GC fraud, the person who switches the job after GC approval (may that be 1 day after approval or 5 months), it should be okay. YES, it is generally accepted to be on the safe side of staying at the sponsoring company for at least 6 months to a year so that in case someone reports to the INS of a possible GC fraud.
it is also to my understanding that ANYONE can report a possible GC FRAUD to the INS. of course in the few cases that this has happened, the sponsoring employer is the most likely candidate to report such acts. BUT this person can be any person who does not like you at the company or where ever.
SO if and only if you don't have any enemies who may use this tactic (reporting to INS) against you, i'd say it's safe to switch jobs immediately after GC approval. This is just my theory.
of course, i can't say that my theory is completely correct. it is just a compliation of multiple sources i have gathered regarding this issue. it appears that only a very few cases where someone got reported.
i guess my final opinion on this issue is as follows:
1.if you don't believe ANYONE will report you leaving your job before the suggested 6 months - 12 months, FREE yourself!
2.if you have any doubts, stick around for 6 months.
3.if you really want to be 100% SAFE, stick around for at least a year.
most of us have suffered long enough being literally slaves for the sponsoring company. GC sponsoring is what i'd like to call "MODERN SLAVERY"!
just my two cents.
i did a lot of research on the immigration.com forums and other on-line sources regarding the issue of job switching after GC approval. in conclusion, i have came up with a theory that is same as the lawyer's advice quoted above.
as long as NO ONE reports the possibility of a GC fraud, the person who switches the job after GC approval (may that be 1 day after approval or 5 months), it should be okay. YES, it is generally accepted to be on the safe side of staying at the sponsoring company for at least 6 months to a year so that in case someone reports to the INS of a possible GC fraud.
it is also to my understanding that ANYONE can report a possible GC FRAUD to the INS. of course in the few cases that this has happened, the sponsoring employer is the most likely candidate to report such acts. BUT this person can be any person who does not like you at the company or where ever.
SO if and only if you don't have any enemies who may use this tactic (reporting to INS) against you, i'd say it's safe to switch jobs immediately after GC approval. This is just my theory.
of course, i can't say that my theory is completely correct. it is just a compliation of multiple sources i have gathered regarding this issue. it appears that only a very few cases where someone got reported.
i guess my final opinion on this issue is as follows:
1.if you don't believe ANYONE will report you leaving your job before the suggested 6 months - 12 months, FREE yourself!
2.if you have any doubts, stick around for 6 months.
3.if you really want to be 100% SAFE, stick around for at least a year.
most of us have suffered long enough being literally slaves for the sponsoring company. GC sponsoring is what i'd like to call "MODERN SLAVERY"!
just my two cents.
Citizenship
I guess the issues of statying with the sponsor came up regarding the Citizenship. In the above comments nobody has addressed it, but what I read is and one of the lawyer also supported is that at the time of Citizenship application your employment hisotry is checked. At that time, the INS can raise a question about the intent if you didn't stay with your employer for a longer time. I am not sure how this is implemented. Add your comments ...
I guess the issues of statying with the sponsor came up regarding the Citizenship. In the above comments nobody has addressed it, but what I read is and one of the lawyer also supported is that at the time of Citizenship application your employment hisotry is checked. At that time, the INS can raise a question about the intent if you didn't stay with your employer for a longer time. I am not sure how this is implemented. Add your comments ...
Dardenkoa is 100% right
I agree with Dardekoa. ANYBODY can inform INS about your screw up. Just yeaterday there was thread going on from galaxygc that his freind got GC revoked just 3 months after approving because SOMEONE told INS that he was being paid less than what was promised during labour and I-140. That someone could be even your very close friend who has jealousy with you. I know it sounds bad but in these bad times when jobs are scarce such things can happen and you cannot trust anybody.
As far as citizenship is concerned, they do check employment history. Hence NEVER resign from your company but instead let the employer cut you. Even if you don't apply for citizenship and want to just live with GC then too never resign from your company till at least 6 months. If the employer cuts you then you did not do any fraud and it's the employer who may get into trouble.
I agree with Dardekoa. ANYBODY can inform INS about your screw up. Just yeaterday there was thread going on from galaxygc that his freind got GC revoked just 3 months after approving because SOMEONE told INS that he was being paid less than what was promised during labour and I-140. That someone could be even your very close friend who has jealousy with you. I know it sounds bad but in these bad times when jobs are scarce such things can happen and you cannot trust anybody.
As far as citizenship is concerned, they do check employment history. Hence NEVER resign from your company but instead let the employer cut you. Even if you don't apply for citizenship and want to just live with GC then too never resign from your company till at least 6 months. If the employer cuts you then you did not do any fraud and it's the employer who may get into trouble.
GC_Paranoid
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For Scotgirl's question
Thanks for the congrats. The GC did help. The first question many companies asked was "Do you have a GC?". I found the job market was actually very good after my approval.
Regarding to your question, I called my lawyer and she said no problem. She even said that I could collect unemployment benefits during my transition time.
God bless you all,
GC_P
Thanks for the congrats. The GC did help. The first question many companies asked was "Do you have a GC?". I found the job market was actually very good after my approval.
Regarding to your question, I called my lawyer and she said no problem. She even said that I could collect unemployment benefits during my transition time.
God bless you all,
GC_P
i am unsure how quitting immeidately after GC approval may affect citizenship. if you do have good or better yet GREAT relations with your employer, you could always ask them to lay you off. hell, they probably want to do it anyway since the employer most likely won't want to start paying you the salary that's stated on the GC. these past two years of bad economy and a very slow recovery, being laid off during this period is way too common. i theorize that that INS probably won't be too harsh on laid off GC approvals from this period seeking citizenship 5 years from now.
now, how do you go about asking your employer to lay you off? i have no idea. of course you do still want a good reference from them. i would not suggest doing a bad job just to get fired. hehe. so to play it safe, always go with the norm, 6 months to one year. i feel really badly for that guy who got his GC stripped from him.
what am i going to do if i ever get approved? i am getting the hell outta my job!!
now, how do you go about asking your employer to lay you off? i have no idea. of course you do still want a good reference from them. i would not suggest doing a bad job just to get fired. hehe. so to play it safe, always go with the norm, 6 months to one year. i feel really badly for that guy who got his GC stripped from him.
what am i going to do if i ever get approved? i am getting the hell outta my job!!
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