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HERNESTO

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My PD is 2003 EB3 ROW.I filed my I-485 June 11/2007 . After the September VB got out when I can expect an approval? Untill the end of September 2007 or after that? or next year? I did my FP July 13 2007 should I call to ask what's up or wait?
Again everything is random with the approvals - chaos.
I have read in this forum for two people filed in June 2007 and got approved.One was EB 2 the other EB3 ROW.
 
It takes about 6 months minimum (some people do it faster, but it's very rare to get it done in <6 months) to get the I-485 approved. Sometimes it might take 1 - 2 years. But anyway, supposing that it would take 6 months for you, since you sent it in June, you should not expect approval before December- January 2008. At that time, a visa number must be available for you (i.e. your category has to be current for your priority date).

For example, in September, the cutoff date for your category is earlier than your priority date - that means that you will not get approval in the month of September at all, even if the whole application is processed.

So you need to think that you will get approval some time after September - maybe October if the dates are current for you, but more realistically after December - January.
 
these days, it's not that rare to get it done in like 1-2 months...quiet a few used to get the approvals in the last 1 year, if their dreaded FBI Namecheck finished in 1 week or less...

But considering the new workload of cases - 485 applications....in June/July, it is expected that there will be further delays in processing of applications....it's just a normal common sense guesss....

but, hey, if you are the lucky one...U may even get approved in 14 - 30 days or so....I did hear one guy last year like that...
 
Thank you for your answer Ordinaria.I know , as you are saying about the PD and cut-off dates thats the rule but........

I think I'm going back to Europe in November and if I get the GC o.k. if not o.k. I'm tired of waiting and working for nothing.I'll talk with my current employer to give me an unpaid leave and still with him when my case is eventualy approved.
Still Ordinaria, I see people with PD after the dates mensioned in the VB approved so I won't be surrprised to see other approvals unlogical and chaotic.Everything is a big fun chaos ))))
Hope you get your GC soon.One more time thanks for your detail answer.
 
Hi - no problem...

With a name like Hernesto, I'm wondering - where are you from?
You don't have to answer if you are not comfortable - I completely understand.

I am just wondering, because I am from Spain and it sounds like you could be from Spain too, although the standard spelling of your name in Spanish would be Ernesto.
 
Hernesto

Hernesto my friend, I feel your pain and anguish.

I had joined my company at the beginning of 2001, and they played games with me for nearly two years and finally submitting the labor papers for PD of Nov 2002, EB3 ROW. Not to mention, the constant harrasment and verbal undocumented threats that if something was to happen to my immigration paperwork, I would have to leave the US within 10 days. With the dotcom bust, economic downfall, US at war and me being young, naive and gullible, simple submission was my only choice.

I too had much hopes for this year. I am trying to concentrate on the positive side of all this considering I still have a job and things could be a lot worse, but believe me, the frustration is there. Sometimes I feel that I have been under this deadly choke-hold for so long and instead of getting stronger, my neck is getting weaker and my breath shorter. Though the harrassment at work has slowed down for the last couple of years, the wounds are there permanently. Nevertheless, I am still fighting and looking forward to progress and going back is not an option for me due to many different reasons.

At times like these, one may turn to faith and thinking that God has kept me around here for so long, there must hopefully be a good reason behind it.


Stoned!
 
HERNESTO said:
Still Ordinaria, I see people with PD after the dates mensioned in the VB approved...
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You didn't, unless you were looking at approvals in July and August when the VB essentially doesn't mean anything due to the July 2 fiasco. Aside from the July fiasco exception, it is a hard and fast rule that you cannot be approved unless your priority date is current. Your case won't be approved in September, because the EB3 ROW date is in 2002.

Even if your priority date is current, it typically takes at least 6 months just for them to do everything necessary for the I-485 processing. Yes, you might be in the lucky 1% or 2% whose processing gets done within 2 months, but that is the exception. The rule is more like 1-2 years.

You should not expect approval before December. Approval sooner than that is possible, but is not to be expected.
 
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I am in a very similar position - joined my company in Nov 2001 - they didn't sponsor me for GC until Nov 2004 (PD Jul 2005, EB3 ROW). I was also young and stupid. Still am, I guess...

I f*cking hate this place. HATE IT.
I can't wait to get out of here.
I am underpaid, overworked and they know they have me by the balls.

So I'm also considering moving back to Europe if I don't get my GC soon...
 
Hola Ordinaria de nuevo.

La cosa es muy simple )))) Yo no soy espanol pero se espanol.Yo soy Bulgaro.De donde me se el espanol vivi en Mexico 5 anos alla termine escuela y empeze la universidad, despues me regrese a Bulgaria.En Bulgaria termine la Universidad - la carrera de Derecho.Trabaje 6 anos y desidi venir para aca EU a ver como es la cosa.Mi hermana vive aqui. El de Ernesto con la "H" me gusta como se ve )))))))) mi email es: HIPODIVO@yahoo.com
 
ordinaria said:
I am in a very similar position - joined my company in Nov 2001 - they didn't sponsor me for GC until Nov 2004 (PD Jul 2005, EB3 ROW). I was also young and stupid. Still am, I guess...

I f*cking hate this place. HATE IT.
I can't wait to get out of here.
I am underpaid, overworked and they know they have me by the balls.

So I'm also considering moving back to Europe if I don't get my GC soon...
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I totally sympathize with your situation, as I'm sure many on this site do as well.

We area ll being held captive, with no recourse.
One way to screw them back is say f*** you, leave the place and restart the process elsewhere. Yes, you're losing your PD, maybe not even that if you have I-140 approved, but with infinite H-1b extensions, why stay at the same place with a crap payscale?

To show you I'm not just talking the talk, I did this recently. I left my old crappy job (without I-140 approval so totally lost my PD), am in a job I really like (at least for now), much better paid, and filing the LC all over again. I am already in 8th year extension, so what?
I have seen people on 11th and 12th yr extensions.

Even for people in the 485 stage without AC21 option, waiting endlessly, thinking they are so close, ii's like a mirage in the desert - now you see it now you dont.
The hell with exploiting employers.
Do what makes you happy. Otherwise you might be going back home anyway, without having enjoyed your stay here.

If this job also doesnt work out for me, I will go to yet another place.
Some people may think I'm crazy - but what are the chances that I wont be laid off and be completely helpless, having lost all my chance of getting the gc? Isn't this a better option? In the end I think PD is given too much importance by us. 2-3 years later is not so bad if you are making much better money and happier as well.

would like to know others' thoughts on this
 
HERNESTO said:
Hola Ordinaria de nuevo.

La cosa es muy simple )))) Yo no soy espanol pero se espanol.Yo soy Bulgaro.De donde me se el espanol vivi en Mexico 5 anos alla termine escuela y empeze la universidad, despues me regrese a Bulgaria.En Bulgaria termine la Universidad - la carrera de Derecho.Trabaje 6 anos y desidi venir para aca EU a ver como es la cosa.Mi hermana vive aqui. El de Ernesto con la "H" me gusta como se ve )))))))) mi email es: HIPODIVO@yahoo.com
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Now it's my turn to say - "I don't understand"
I am being silly... no offense intended...
 
I guess the fear of making a huge mistake is what may hold back from pursuing a different employer. Doesn't mean it will turn out to be a mistake, but the fear will always be there.
 
pswami is 1000% right. I have seen a lot of people who said that they want to leave US in 6 months or 1 year. They will repeat the same but stay for ever and apply for GC and so on. GC (or even PD) has unlimited potential whereas pay raise is short term only.
 
There is a downside if you give too much importance to
priority date. If you continue working for the same
company eventhough work is not challenging, then
you are spoiling your career. You will be good for nothing
after getting greencard. At the end you will have
green-card in your hand and lost all your high-energy
years.
 
nanilb said:
There is a downside if you give too much importance to
priority date. If you continue working for the same
company eventhough work is not challenging, then
you are spoiling your career. You will be good for nothing
after getting greencard. At the end you will have
green-card in your hand and lost all your high-energy
years.
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Or in the end, you still don't get the green card because the exploitative employer deliberately or negligently screws up your green card process.

As time goes on, the US becomes less attractive and more opportunities open up in other countries. The GC is less important to have now than 5-10 years ago. You shouldn't sacrifice some of the best years of your life for it.
 
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pswami said:
I think you are self reassuring and self consoling yourself through this post. You want to feel that you have made a good decision by quitting your old job, old PD and restarting the GC again.

Ask anyone how much PDs are important. This was the reason labor substitution was a booming business and companies made lot of money. Ask people who wait for their GC every day, log on to USCIS site to check their LUDs. You will find majority of people who will share this sentiment.

Yes there are people who will say, they don't care for greencards. I have seen many of them. And after a year I found that they recently got their greencards. These kind of people show off to outside world that they dont care for greencards and career and money is important, but secretly they check LUDs and bleed for greencards every day of their lives and continue to be exploited.

PDs are very very very important in this mad race for greencards. People will do anything to send their applications even a day before their lawyer is sending so that they can get one day ahead of everyone in line. You will see this on Trackers on Trackitt how much people are worried who signed their Fedex delivery and what exact time it was delivered.

This is the community we all belong to. And if someone says money and career are important and it is ok to change jobs, I dont buy that.
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nobody is asking you to buy anything.
you do whatever you think is right, if staying in a s*** job makes you happy that's your blessing or curse.

nobody also said that getting the green card is not important.
but to some people quality of life is obviously more important than the green card.
obviously also, you are not one of them
 
pswami said:
Good for you if you are one of them/not one of them: Who bleed for green cards everyday but since they cannot get it they want to show off that green cards are not important. It does not really matter. Everyone has a right to make choices in life. If that makes you happy, then be happy. I have seen enough. I even saw some J1 people in universities who were on 2 year exchange student award. They used to talk BS about this country and how bad it is and they will never settle here. And guess what, I found them back in USA after 2 years doing some job and applying for greencards. Some girls who were students tried their best to marry someone working in USA just so they can live in USA. I have also seen people who got fired or were incompetent at job and lost their PDs. After they took a new job they talked about how PDs and green cards are not important and quality of life and career is most important and they don't really care if they live in USA, Canada , Australia or India. It is a global economy and they will get jobs anywhere. There are plenty of such people. Its just that they don't really express what they 'really' think. On the forums one can say whatever they want and put any mask they want.
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I wonder if you understand English.
Read my previous post, specifically:
"nobody also said that getting the green card is not important."

If you don't understand English, let me explain in simpler English my first post which said:
"I think PD is given too much importance by us. 2-3 years later is not so bad if you are making much better money and happier as well."
What this means is that getting your green card later rather than sooner may not be so bad. What it does not mean is that green card is unimportant. And even that is not true for everyone. Maybe not for people who are able to find jobs easily elsewhere; it looks like you are not one of them.

You seem to be very frustrated with your situation, and my post was exactly addressed to people like you, who seem to have lost focus in life.

Anyway, as I also said in my previous post, everyone makes their own decisions. Including me. So who are you to pick on mine, or me to pick on yours.

good luck and goodbye
 
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I want to comment as well.

I too really hate people when they say US is not a good place etc...

Then why are they staying here...it beats my mind, they take so much pains to apply for visa/M.S or whatever I mean they work really hard to come here.

Then they say GC is not important, we will go back home.

Suckers, I had some roommates who were studying with me in M.S. They all said they wanted to go back. All of them applied for GC, when they got EAD, some went to work night shifts in other companies, to make money, bought houses, pushed their wife's to work, now some got GC.

Now you know what I hear, they say we will make some money and go back, nonsense, I feel they are waiting to apply for citzenship and then settle down here. Whatelse do you think they will do.

I really hate such double standards........



Madboy said:
pswami is 1000% right. I have seen a lot of people who said that they want to leave US in 6 months or 1 year. They will repeat the same but stay for ever and apply for GC and so on. GC (or even PD) has unlimited potential whereas pay raise is short term only.
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double minded talking so common in these days
i know people told me that they want to go back for India, all of sudden when their 5th year coming to end, they begged their employer to file labor, last week that guy got GC after 4 years of waiting

some people are superstitious saying if they say negative it will come come positive news to them
i know literally couple of my friends who got GC's like that


gc_retrogress said:
I too really hate people when they say US is not a good place etc...

Then why are they staying here...it beats my mind, they take so much pains to apply for visa/M.S or whatever I mean they work really hard to come here.

Then they say GC is not important, we will go back home.

Suckers, I had some roommates who were studying with me in M.S. They all said they wanted to go back. All of them applied for GC, when they got EAD, some went to work night shifts in other companies, to make money, bought houses, pushed their wife's to work, now some got GC.

Now you know what I hear, they say we will make some money and go back, nonsense, I feel they are waiting to apply for citzenship and then settle down here. Whatelse do you think they will do.

I really hate such double standards........
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gc_retrogress said:
I too really hate people when they say US is not a good place etc...

Then why are they staying here...it beats my mind, they take so much pains to apply for visa/M.S or whatever I mean they work really hard to come here.

Then they say GC is not important, we will go back home.

Suckers, I had some roommates who were studying with me in M.S. They all said they wanted to go back. All of them applied for GC, when they got EAD, some went to work night shifts in other companies, to make money, bought houses, pushed their wife's to work, now some got GC.

Now you know what I hear, they say we will make some money and go back, nonsense, I feel they are waiting to apply for citzenship and then settle down here. Whatelse do you think they will do.

I really hate such double standards........
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The US is a nice place to be, but it isn't worth sacrificing your peace of mind for several years just to get a green card, unless you don't have good opportunities back home or in third countries.

If I was working 50-60 hours a week for a below-market salary, paying for my own lawyer and EAD/AP/etc., I would have gone back rather than put up with that crap.
 
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