how to find out I485 Application receipt number?

485may03

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my employer does not provide the Application receipt number?
it was filed in the Nebraska service center on May 03. is there is a way to find out this number based on the A# ?
can i call any number of NSC? . any help is appreciated. thanks
 
485may03 said:
my employer does not provide the Application receipt number?
it was filed in the Nebraska service center on May 03. is there is a way to find out this number based on the A# ?
can i call any number of NSC? . any help is appreciated. thanks

Your employer should not deny access to your I-485 receipt number. They can do it for I-140, but not I-485. I-485 is your petition. If your employer does not provide that, directly request that from the attorney who filed your application.

No, you cannot find receipt number from A#.
 
pralay said:
Your employer should not deny access to your I-485 receipt number. They can do it for I-140, but not I-485. I-485 is your petition. If your employer does not provide that, directly request that from the attorney who filed your application.

No, you cannot find receipt number from A#.
I doubt if attorney will give you receipts. normally they dont do anything which
their clients not ask them to do. I agree that 485 is an individual application
and you've right to it. try talking with your attorney.

I dont know if it can be done but check if FOIA can be used to get it directly
from NSC.
 
fast_gc_seeker said:
I doubt if attorney will give you receipts. normally they dont do anything which
their clients not ask them to do. I agree that 485 is an individual application
and you've right to it. try talking with your attorney.

Well, professionalism and client's interest are two different things and they don't conflict each other. By law, the attorney must provide those documents involving any client. For I-140, employer is client. For I-485, employee is client (even if employed paid all the fees). If some attorney does not provide those document upon request - that would be beyond professionalism and beyond ethics. But most of the attoneys have those qualities.
Attorneys provide services for fees, and they are not slaves. So "they dont do anything which their clients not ask them to do" argument does not hold much for good attorneys.
 
pralay said:
Well, professionalism and client's interest are two different things and they don't conflict each other. By law, the attorney must provide those documents involving any client. For I-140, employer is client. For I-485, employee is client (even if employed paid all the fees). If some attorney does not provide those document upon request - that would be beyond professionalism and beyond ethics. But most of the attoneys have those qualities.
Attorneys provide services for fees, and they are not slaves. So "they dont do anything which their clients not ask them to do" argument does not hold much for good attorneys.
I agree with your comments on attorneys professionalism and ethics but you'll
probably agree that they are making money from their client and would not
risk it so easily. Thats why I've asked the poster to "try talking with attorney"
for his/her receipts.
 
485may03 said:
my employer does not provide the Application receipt number?
it was filed in the Nebraska service center on May 03. is there is a way to find out this number based on the A# ?
can i call any number of NSC? . any help is appreciated. thanks
Once you have filled G-28 for 485 with your lawyer, you are his/her client for 485. And you can demand for 485 reciept.
 
fast_gc_seeker said:
I agree with your comments on attorneys professionalism and ethics but you'll
probably agree that they are making money from their client and would not
risk it so easily. Thats why I've asked the poster to "try talking with attorney"
for his/her receipts.

What risk you are talking about? Loosing business? As you understand it's always a bad idea for business to give up professionalism and break law, just for making money. That's the basic of any good business. Thieves and cheaters do that. You will be very surprised to see that most of attorney are not like that (not sure how many attorneys you interacted with and how much you know them).
 
pralay said:
What risk you are talking about? Loosing business? As you understand it's always a bad idea for business to give up professionalism and break law, just for making money. That's the basic of any good business. Thieves and cheaters do that. You will be very surprised to see that most of attorney are not like that (not sure how many attorneys you interacted with and how much you know them).
I agree again with what u say thats why I asked poster to check with his/her attorney but still feel they may refuse to provide it.
 
And if your lawyer refuses to give you case number, keep proof of refusal and complain in Ethics Committee of the state where he/she is licensed. Rest they will do for you. For 485 sometimes calling NSC helps - most of the time it doesn't! You may like to try your luck.
 
thanks for you comments. I can not talk to attorney directly, since the attorney is paid by my comapny I can only talk to the atoorney thru my HR. and there is no way they let me ask the attorney for the receipt number.
Is there a number I can call the customer service number in the NSC and try to get the receipt number? if somone have there phone number can you pls provide me with that.
I earlier call the National customer service number (1-800 number), I was told that they can not look up the receipt number, instead I should write to the NSC to get the receipt number. so before I send a letter to them, I was checking if I can get this imformation by call the NSC.

thanks
 
485may03,

Have you actually asked the HR or your lawyer directly to get the receipt number? I would try that first.

Then, file G-639 to get the info.
 
485may03 said:
thanks for you comments. I can not talk to attorney directly, since the attorney is paid by my comapny I can only talk to the atoorney thru my HR. and there is no way they let me ask the attorney for the receipt number.

Why? Did you sign any agreement with your employer that you cannot contact attorney with any immigration issue?
If you don't know your rights and don't excercize them, you are just deprecating yourself. If your H1 is expired and don't have a copy of I-485 receipt with you, you even won't be able to prove to someone that you are not a out of status or staying illegally.

If you know law firms name, find their phone number from internet/yellow pages. You don't have to get attorney's phone number from your employer.

You should know your rights and keep your immigration records in order. Otherwise, if an issue comes up in future, you will be in trouble. Deligating everything to attorney or employer is never a good idea. Want some example? Here it goes:

http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=148080
 
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ok guys, It is not that I have not asked my HR. and I don't know who is the company attorney. my HR will not give the information about the attorney nor will they provide the receipt number. They will not give my the receipt number unless there is a genuine reason. I just want this receipt number so that I can check the status online. I have a valid AP/EAD.

so , what possible reason can I tell my HR, so as to get the receipt number?
 
485may03 said:
ok guys, It is not that I have not asked my HR. and I don't know who is the company attorney. my HR will not give the information about the attorney nor will they provide the receipt number. They will not give my the receipt number unless there is a genuine reason. I just want this receipt number so that I can check the status online. I have a valid AP/EAD.

so , what possible reason can I tell my HR, so as to get the receipt number?
u have genuine reason for getting 485 receipt. tell ur HR that u want to track ur case and for doing this receipt # is a must. Inform them
that you are aware of 485 being your application and not theirs. By the
way who paid for 485? If u have paid u've right to get receipt # and even otherway u've right to get it. Also if you've paid check with ur bank for
the copy of the cleared check, at the back of it u can find receipt #.
Good Luck
 
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485may03 said:
so, what possible reason can I tell my HR, so as to get the receipt number?

That, you have to figure out - based on your relationship with your employer/HR and your personal situation. There are 1000 ways to do that.
Very first way is to not showing any reason at all and demand that as I-485 is your petition, you would like keep a copy in your immigration folder - just for a record in case you need it in future.
Or you can tell them you lost your EAD card or AP and you would like to get a new one. For that reason, you need I485 receipt.
If your H1 is expired, you can show the excuse that your drivers license is expiring, so you need renew it with showing your valid immigration status.
So on and on.
 
485may03 said:
ok guys, It is not that I have not asked my HR. and I don't know who is the company attorney. my HR will not give the information about the attorney nor will they provide the receipt number. They will not give my the receipt number unless there is a genuine reason. I just want this receipt number so that I can check the status online. I have a valid AP/EAD.

so , what possible reason can I tell my HR, so as to get the receipt number?

Are you sure you need the number? You did not ask HR - you did not ask lawyer. How else will you get it?

OK here is one more pretext for you. Quote: 8 CFR Sec. 245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C) to your HR. It says:

(C) The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful H-1 or L-1 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if, upon returning to this country, the alien remains eligible for H or L status, is coming to resume employment with the same employer for whom he or she had previously been authorized to work as an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant, and, is in possession of a valid H or L visa (if required) and the original I-797 receipt notice for the application for adjustment of status. The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful H-4 or L-2 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if the spouse or parent of such alien through whom the H-4 or L-2 status was obtained is maintaining H-1 or L-1 status and the alien remains otherwise eligible for H-4 or L-2 status, and, the alien is in possession of a valid H-4 or L-2 visa (if required) and the original copy of the I-797 receipt notice for the application for adjustment of status. The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status, who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful K-3 or K-4 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if, upon returning to this country, the alien is in possession of a valid K-3 or K-4 visa and remains eligible for K-3 or K-4 status. (Amended 8/14/01; 66 FR 42587) (Revised effective 4/1/97; 62 FR 10312)

Now term possession can be interpreted in different ways - but you do not need to get into that loop - just go and show this to your HR. They will get you case number and a copy of 485 notice.
 
thanks for your options. now pls tell me options in the other path(No hr No attorney). like, calling NSC or write to them? I read somewhere I can fill up the FIOA or something, but that form itself requires the receipt number.
 
485may03 said:
thanks for your options. now pls tell me options in the other path(No hr No attorney). like, calling NSC or write to them? I read somewhere I can fill up the FIOA or something, but that form itself requires the receipt number.
I had suggested on using FOIA earlier in this thread. I'm not sure if it can be used
in your case to get receipt number but you can try sending this request.
USCIS has a special form for FOIA and I believe you can also send a letter instead of using this form. In the letter you can mention ur employer refuses to provide 485 receipt
number and hence you would like to use FOIA.
 
thanks all. I was finally able to get the receipt number. I called the FOIA number (1800 ) which is the USCIS site and they were able to look it up for me.
 
485may03 said:
thanks all. I was finally able to get the receipt number. I called the FOIA number (1800 ) which is the USCIS site and they were able to look it up for me.
Kool :) I'm glad my information helped you.

Please post your experience as to what exactly you spoke with them.
 
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