How can I find my PD?

Akash Sharma

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This might be stupid question but difficult for me to understand. Can anyone tell me how can I find my PD? My labor was filed in Nov 2002 under EB-2 category. Would I be benefited by retro or would take longer?

I-140 RD: Aug-03, AD:Aug-04
I-485 RD: Aug-03, AD:???
 
Akash Sharma said:
This might be stupid question but difficult for me to understand. Can anyone tell me how can I find my PD? My labor was filed in Nov 2002 under EB-2 category. Would I be benefited by retro or would take longer?

I-140 RD: Aug-03, AD:Aug-04
I-485 RD: Aug-03, AD:???

Your PD is the date your labor was recived at the State office. From above your PD is Nov 2002. Bbu since yours is EB2, you will not 'benefit', or be adversly affected by the retogression. Its only for EB3, and ppl born in India, China and Phillipines.
 
Hi Akash Sharma

If you are under substitution labor, then your I-140 RD is your PD.
If not, then your labor filing date Nov 2002 is your PD.
Right now EB2 category is current for all countries. You don't need to worry about PD.
 
v_rkumar32 said:
Hi Akash Sharma

If you are under substitution labor, then your I-140 RD is your PD.
If not, then your labor filing date Nov 2002 is your PD.
Right now EB2 category is current for all countries. You don't need to worry about PD.

Mine was a substitute labor case and my PD on my I-140 approval notice was the PD on the original labor and not the date of my I140 filing. Also Murthy.com has data that reflects that the original PD is carried over in substitute cases.
 
Akash Sharma:
Check your I-140 Approval notice.
You will find PD at the right side of ND of I140 column.
Good Luck.
 
I don't have my 140 approval notice (attorney has it - and is not very willing to give it to me - he thinks it belongs to the company - not to me).

Also my case is labor-sub -- so I have no idea what the original labor PD was.

Is there any other way - other than 140 approval notice ?
Can I call the Cust Svc number and give my 485 receipt number/A# and ask them for PD ??

Since my case is EB3, it would be good to know the PD.

Thanks :)
 
max2k1 said:
I don't have my 140 approval notice (attorney has it - and is not very willing to give it to me - he thinks it belongs to the company - not to me).

Also my case is labor-sub -- so I have no idea what the original labor PD was.

Is there any other way - other than 140 approval notice ?
Can I call the Cust Svc number and give my 485 receipt number/A# and ask them for PD ??

Since my case is EB3, it would be good to know the PD.

Thanks :)

I believe you can file FOIA with uscis. I never filed for one and hence has limited knowledge. But google FOIA+USCIS and also search on USCIS. Some attys are crooks and they don't have to be that way.
 
hi friends

nothing was written on my i-140 about eb1,eb2, or eb3.
so is some thing wrong with my i-140, if not how can i find my catagory


thanks
 
PD for Substitute labor

well, I chked on the link for murthy.com that's given above but I cudn't see anywhere where it specifies anything regarding substitute labor. Can anyone make it clear what is the priority date for substitute labor ? like in my case, it's a substitute labor and I have filed for my I-485/I140 concurrent on April-14-2003. In my I140 approval notice my PD is listed as April 30,2001. According to visa bulletin the cut off date is Jan 2002. I am still wating for my I-485 approval. This is so confusing..I do not know if since it's a substitute labor my PD is April-2001 or since I've filed for my I-140/I-485 using substitute labor it is April-2003. Pls. help..me understand this. :(

wait a second..however, I just found out this from Murthy chat.

Chat User : Hi, Muthyji. What is the priority date for a case using substitute labor? Is it the priority date of the original labor or the date of the I-140?

Attorney Murthy : Although, generally by law, the USCIS is supposed to give the date of the new I-140 filing, we have seen that they have been granting the PD from the original LC given for an earlier employee. So, although it may be possible to take advantage, the USCIS position is that their error does not guarantee the new substituted person may take advantage of something not allowed under law. So be prepared, even if the case has been filed, that it may not get approved if the USCIS realizes its error!

so there you go!!

and this too..

11/01/2004: Substitution of Labor Certification Beneficiary Alien and Priority Date
• Potential retrogression of the visa numbers in January 2005 brings back the issue of priority date on the spotlight. Under the immigration rule, the alien beneficiary "retains" the priority date once the labor certification is approved "and" I-140 petition is approved. Accordingly, unless the I-140 is revoked or the labor certification application is revoked, this specific alien retains the priority date established by the labor certification application. The same alien thus retains the priority date even if the alien starts a new labor certification application with the same employer or another employer. The concept of priority date is thus "alien-based" and the specific alien carries with him or her the priority date.
The priority date is not only "alien-based" but also limited to a specific alien and cannot be transferred to another alien. Consequently, an alien who files I-140 petition as the substituting beneficiary of an approved labor certification application takes over the approved labor certification application but not priority date. Accordingly, an alien who files I-140 petition as a substituting alien establishes his/her priority date at the time of filing of his/her I-140 petition and not on the date of filing of alien labor certification application by the employer on behalf of the original alien beneficiary who is substituted. The regulation specifically states that a priority date is not transferrable to another alien.
 
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grey area

I believe the PD for a substitute labor is a grey area and needs some guidance from USCIS. When I contacted my lawyer, he thinks it is the original PD in the labor and I guess the post above contradicts that.

Anyways, the officer has to decide which date is the PD, I guess. I wonder in that case, why USCIS gave original PD on the I140 approval notice. Who knows what the process is.... If there is one.

Also read the following to substantiate the grey area I mentioned above:

http://www.usila.net/usila-articles/printablearticle.asp?id=680

The main advantage of substitution is that the original priority date can be assigned to the substituted alien. If the employer is not permitted to substitute a new alien on an approved LC then it must file a new LC for the new alien and get a new and much later priority date.
 
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