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andy2000

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Hi Pork,

Really need your advice....

My wife is working on EAD but her H4 is valid till next year. She will be going next week to India. She has not yet received her AP. If she stops working now can she enter on her valid H4 visa?

Your response to this will be greatly appreciated.

Thousands of our Good Wishes to you...and God Bless You...
 
is your h1 still valid....

Yes I am on H1 and is valid till 2004 and my wife on H4 valid till

2004...but worked on EAD for time.
 
Originally posted by andy2000
Hi Pork,

Really need your advice....

My wife is working on EAD but her H4 is valid till next year. She will be going next week to India. She has not yet received her AP. If she stops working now can she enter on her valid H4 visa?

Your response to this will be greatly appreciated.

Thousands of our Good Wishes to you...and God Bless You...

The day your wife began employment using EAD, her H4 status expired. She is no longer in H4 status now. If she leaves US, she will need either AP or a new H4 visa based on a NEW H4 APPROVAL.
 
andy2000

sorry for the delayed response... one of those crazy project deadlines that crop up every now and then.

yes, your wife does need an advance parole to travel. in fact, i have heard lawyers state that H4 status people invariably need AP to travel during AOS even if they, or their H1 spouses, have never used EAD. earlier, even valid H1 holders needed to use AP to travel during AOS. i think it was around mid-2000 that the INS had relaxed the regulations to allow them to travel on H1 (as long as it was valid) without AP, but as far as i know, they had not extended this facility to H4 dependents.

as always, i will emphasize that the foregoing is to the best of my understanding; don't take take it as gospel. run this by your lawyer before you make any decision.

hope this helps.
 
Thanks a ton pork and I did check up with my attorney and he sites this rule….
Based on 8 CFR §245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C), your wife may travel on her valid H-4 visa…
Is this true….I really wonder..
 
here is the text from "H and L Regulations Regarding Adjustment of Status (6-1-99)" issued by the erstwhile INS as part of their implementation regulations for 8 CFR parts 214 and 245.

the section in the above commenting on 8 CFR Sec. 245.2(a)(4)(ii) reads:

What Are the Documentary Requirements for Travel Outside the United States for H-1 and L-1 With Pending Applications for Adjustment of Status?

Current Service regulations at Sec. 245.2(a)(4)(ii) require that all adjustment applicants obtain advance parole authorization prior to traveling outside the United States. Prior to enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 [IIRIRA], such persons were deemed to be applicants seeking admission and were subject to the grounds of excludability. The Service imposed the advance parole requirement and the concomitant exclusion process in order to maintain control over the re-entry of such aliens. With the phasing out of exclusion proceedings under IIRIRA, however, the Service believes it is now appropriate to amend its regulations to provide fuller effect to section 214(h) of the Act by exempting H-1 and L-1 nonimmigrants with pending applications for adjustment of status (as well as their dependent family members) from obtaining advance parole authorization prior to traveling outside the United States. Generally, such H-1 and L-1 nonimmigrants may be readmitted into the United States in the same status provided they are in possession of a valid H-1 or L- 1 nonimmigrant visa (for those aliens not visa exempt), and the original I-797 receipt notice for the application for adjustment of status, and continue to remain eligible for H-1 or L-1 classification. All other nonimmigrants with pending applications for status must obtain advance parole authorization in accordance with Sec. 245.2(a)(4)(ii) prior to traveling outside the United States.
(my emphasis)

the above regulation seems to apply only to H1 and L1 visa holders, doesn't it? the last sentence that i have underscored would seem to include H4/L2 holders.

just in case you want to run it by your lawyer again, the above is from INS's regulation No. 1881-97, which can be found at the Federal Register of June 1, 1999 (Volume 64, Number 104). here's a link to this document: http://frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov/cg...SdocID=847813431185+2+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

didn't want to add to your confusion. my "default advice" in situations like these is, "err on the side of caution".
 
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Hey Pork…..you are genius…man…you will go a long way…(you are a throughbred(TB)..lambi race a godha…Yes, I will speak to my attorney again…..thanks again…
 
Originally posted by andy2000
Thanks a ton pork and I did check up with my attorney and he sites this rule….
Based on 8 CFR §245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C), your wife may travel on her valid H-4 visa…
Is this true….I really wonder..

Just an added note, your wife IS NOT IN A VALID H STATUS since she used EAD to seek employment. This particular 8 CFR §245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C) rule for H and L visa holders therefore does not apply to your wife.
 
andy2000...

thanks, pal, for your sentiments. however, i admit i made a mistake! i completely missed highlighting one other very telling line from the law excerpt that i posted; i shall hasten to repair that omission now:

With the phasing out of exclusion proceedings under IIRIRA, however, the Service believes it is now appropriate to amend its regulations to provide fuller effect to section 214(h) of the Act by exempting H-1 and L-1 nonimmigrants with pending applications for adjustment of status (as well as their dependent family members) from obtaining advance parole authorization prior to traveling outside the United States.

you just want to ascertain with your lawyer if your wife is still in valid H4 status. since H4 is a derivative of your H1 status, i have seen arguments either way that the use of EAD invalidates the H4 status.

the safer assumption is that it does; therefore she would still need advance parole to travel.

if there was ever a place to emphasize my usual caveat, my last post was it!

my profound apologies, andy2000.
 
Thank you all of you and its really a great site with great guys helping each other…I will check up once again with my attorney…..Guruji Pork..Parnam…maan gaye..apkoo…my RD of I-485 is a recent one…sooo I might have to hang out here…for taking advice and helping others, if I could.
 
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