H1 Stamping Tijuana - Security Check Problem - TAL

ela6

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Hi Folks,
Just wanted to share my H1 stamping (renewal) experience (problem) at Tijuana. Eventhough this happend at Tijuana, it might be relevant to other consulates too.

I work as research scientist for a medical device company and my area is chemistry. Scientist profession / chemistry area falls under Technology Alert List (TAL) and that is one of the main reason for the trouble I had.

Just for your information, the bank at Tijuana opens only at 9 am. So, make sure your appt is at a later time (although they allowed me to report at 9 after getting the draft. Had appt at 8 am). I got called in at about 11 a.m.

The consular asked me what I do and I told her that I was working as a research scientist and I develop insulin formulations. She glanced at my wife and kids and asked me if they were my family, I said yes. She asked me if I had travel plans and I said yes. She then said " I am glad you are here because, your case will take a little longer to process". She said I needed a security check. I asked her if that meant that I will be stuck in Tijuana. She said that she is NOT cancelling my (expired) visa and I MIGHT be able to go into San Diego based on the valid I94. She said that she will call me once the security check is complete or I could call them after 5 weeks. My passport was stamped "received appln on 09-14-04" and was given back along with H1 papers. She took my job description and typed it in her computer (for security check).

I came down to the border. The person at the border who checked my documents said that I cannot enter the country as I do not have a valid visa. I tried to explain to him that the consular said that it is fine. He refused and refered me to OB Court (I don't know what that means). Basically I had to go to another office building and meet an officer. I had to wait about an hour (during which I was calling my travel agent to figure out how I can fly out of Tijuana to India!!). That officer looked at my childrens passport (US Citizens) and then looked at my Valid I94s and then said that "you are good to go!!". He took the new I94 stapled it on the passport and stamped "entered on 09-13-04" and then when I came back to the regular entry point again, I was allowed to enter the country.

Moral of the story, if your occupation is under TAL list the chances are that they might make a security check. This might happen at any consulate including India. (perhaps that is what the consular said that "I am glad you are here". Just prepare your backup plans, no matter where you go. One more thing, I saw her "log" for security checks, it had a lot of chinese names like lu, lee, etc. The log had about 25 names. Which means Tijuana is involved with at least 25 security checks. Now the issue is whether the 25 checks were ordered in 1 year, 6 months, ???? So, the frequency of these checks are unclear. As far as I could see, I did not see Indian names (just had a couple second peek at the log).

If you fly into Canada and Mexico, you will not be able to come back as they would collect your I94. If you drive, you have some chance especially if the consular does not cancel your expired visa. In my case everyone involved including the consular, immigration officer might have given me a break as I had my wife and two children aged 3 and 6.

The article at http://www.faegre.com/articles/article_1053.aspx and some other articles that I read suggest that "people listed under TAL MUST undergo security check". So, if you are in TAL don't try at Mexico or Canada. Go to India and be prepared for a longer wait.

I will try to update once my security check come through so you guys can have an idea as to how long it takes for the check.

Meanwhile, if any of you know the time it takes for security check, please let me know.

Feel free to ask any questions that you may have, I will try to answer.

ela
 
Update..

Got my security check cleared in 3 weeks (for some it had taken 7 weeks). Tijuana does seem to send a lot of applicants for security check.
ela6 said:
Hi Folks,
Just wanted to share my H1 stamping (renewal) experience (problem) at Tijuana. Eventhough this happend at Tijuana, it might be relevant to other consulates too.

I work as research scientist for a medical device company and my area is chemistry. Scientist profession / chemistry area falls under Technology Alert List (TAL) and that is one of the main reason for the trouble I had.

Just for your information, the bank at Tijuana opens only at 9 am. So, make sure your appt is at a later time (although they allowed me to report at 9 after getting the draft. Had appt at 8 am). I got called in at about 11 a.m.

The consular asked me what I do and I told her that I was working as a research scientist and I develop insulin formulations. She glanced at my wife and kids and asked me if they were my family, I said yes. She asked me if I had travel plans and I said yes. She then said " I am glad you are here because, your case will take a little longer to process". She said I needed a security check. I asked her if that meant that I will be stuck in Tijuana. She said that she is NOT cancelling my (expired) visa and I MIGHT be able to go into San Diego based on the valid I94. She said that she will call me once the security check is complete or I could call them after 5 weeks. My passport was stamped "received appln on 09-14-04" and was given back along with H1 papers. She took my job description and typed it in her computer (for security check).

I came down to the border. The person at the border who checked my documents said that I cannot enter the country as I do not have a valid visa. I tried to explain to him that the consular said that it is fine. He refused and refered me to OB Court (I don't know what that means). Basically I had to go to another office building and meet an officer. I had to wait about an hour (during which I was calling my travel agent to figure out how I can fly out of Tijuana to India!!). That officer looked at my childrens passport (US Citizens) and then looked at my Valid I94s and then said that "you are good to go!!". He took the new I94 stapled it on the passport and stamped "entered on 09-13-04" and then when I came back to the regular entry point again, I was allowed to enter the country.

Moral of the story, if your occupation is under TAL list the chances are that they might make a security check. This might happen at any consulate including India. (perhaps that is what the consular said that "I am glad you are here". Just prepare your backup plans, no matter where you go. One more thing, I saw her "log" for security checks, it had a lot of chinese names like lu, lee, etc. The log had about 25 names. Which means Tijuana is involved with at least 25 security checks. Now the issue is whether the 25 checks were ordered in 1 year, 6 months, ???? So, the frequency of these checks are unclear. As far as I could see, I did not see Indian names (just had a couple second peek at the log).

If you fly into Canada and Mexico, you will not be able to come back as they would collect your I94. If you drive, you have some chance especially if the consular does not cancel your expired visa. In my case everyone involved including the consular, immigration officer might have given me a break as I had my wife and two children aged 3 and 6.

The article at http://www.faegre.com/articles/article_1053.aspx and some other articles that I read suggest that "people listed under TAL MUST undergo security check". So, if you are in TAL don't try at Mexico or Canada. Go to India and be prepared for a longer wait.

I will try to update once my security check come through so you guys can have an idea as to how long it takes for the check.

Meanwhile, if any of you know the time it takes for security check, please let me know.

Feel free to ask any questions that you may have, I will try to answer.

ela
 
yet another exp

Just wanted to post some information I had about my friend who got the similar security clearance check (TAL). he is a research scientist working on some biotech company on bioinformatics. he went to tijuana for stamping and he was told that he need FBI clearance and the consular officer asked if he was planning to travel in the near future and he said yes, then the consular officer asked him in how many weeks will he be travelling and he said in a couple of months, so the consular officer told that he clearance will be expedited and the officer asked him to contact back in 5 weeks. he came back to the US on the old F1 visa which was not cancelled by the consulate. then he came back and sent few faxes to FBI giving the name and the details, after exactly three and a half weeks he got a call from the consulate to come between monday and wednesday. he did not say if the case was approved or not but was just asked to come back. when he went back for the consulate, he was not asked even a single question and was given h1. this was his first F1-H1 stamping. Also my friend told me that many of the people got the same secuirty check requirement on the day he appeared to the consulate. so i guess going to tijuana is a bit risky. be careful before u go that route. again this is just my personal opinion.
 
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