goin home early on a tourist visa

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sir5.7

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a friend of mine applied for a 3 month visa and had to leave after 7 weeks due to a family emergency back home. they plan to come back after about 6 weeks for another 3 months to finish there travels. will the 1st trip be classed as a 7 weeek stay or the whole 3 month stay? i know you are only allowed a total of 6 months in a yr in the usa on a toursit visa but just wondering if the 1st travel will be classified as a 3 month stay or a 7 week stay? do they need to notify anyone to advice that the 1st stay was only 7 weeks not 3 months? the visa was via the vwp from australia
 

will the 1st trip be classed as a 7 weeek stay or the whole 3 month stay?
VWP allows for a visit for 'up to' 90 days......you can use it for as little as a few minutes/hours (ie, those who visit the American Falls when entering the US at Niagara, up to as much as the full 90 days.
When you leave on the VWP, it is tracked that that the individual has left the country. In the past, part of a green I-94W was removed from their passport, but now the green I-94W is no longer issued. But either way, it is known that they have left so it will only be classed as a 7 week trip.

i know you are only allowed a total of 6 months in a yr in the usa on a toursit visa
It is not true though that you are allowed a max of 6 months in one year.....while you are supposed to spend as much time out of the states as you do in, many people get away spending longer in the states, while some are not so lucky.

do they need to notify anyone to advice that the 1st stay was only 7 weeks not 3 months?
No
 
oh ok cool. thanx for that very useless info. not sure where i was told about the 6 month rule per yr or possibly just a wives tail? how do they determine who may stay longer and who doesnt? could create a very large grey area??
 
sir5.7 said:
oh ok cool. thanx for that very useless info.
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I hope you meant 'useful', otherwise this is very rude.

sir5.7 said:
not sure where i was told about the 6 month rule per yr or possibly just a wives tail? how do they determine who may stay longer and who doesnt? could create a very large grey area??
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Its not really determining who can stay longer as generally each VWP is given the full 90 days (thought this can be for less should the POE officer have any suspicions.....its rare but it does happen)......it's more like 'who is determined to be granted admittance to the US on VWP'. And youre right about it being a very grey area- and it is purposely intended to be. The person who determines whether someone is granted admittance is the interviewing POE that the visitor is inspected into the country- if the POE officer suspects that a person is abusing the VWP (ie attempting to live in the US by demonstrating multiple entries/lengthy stays in the US which dont follow the patterns of a genuine visitor) then it is likely they will be denied entry. A reason which one POE officer denies a person entry for, a different officer may grant entry.
 
I am pretty certain that the 6 months refers to the issuance of two 3 month visas. However, I may be wrong about this and would wait for someone who is certain about their answer. For your friend's sake, I hope I am mistaken.
 
Horace Jones said:
I am pretty certain that the 6 months refers to the issuance of two 3 month visas. However, I may be wrong about this and would wait for someone who is certain about their answer. For your friend's sake, I hope I am mistaken.
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Its not a 3 month visa they get......the get admitted 'visa free' (hence the name 'visa waiver') and can stay up to a total of 90 days per visit.

Many people enter multiple times per year on the VWP, especially those on business trips, so someone can definitely enter the US on the VWP more than 2 times. I personally entered 5 times in one year.....my trips were short and so I didnt have a problem. Ive seen accounts of where people have done multiple (exceeding 4) back to back visits where they have stayed the entire 90 days and (luckily) were fine (many people abusing the VWP like this would not be so lucky).

So there is no hard and fast number of visits/total time spent in the US per year figures available as there is none.........this is why (as I stated in my last post) this is considered a HUGE grey area and number of entries on VWP (with previous visit lengths being a big factor) before entry denial will be entirely determined upon the POE officer that a VWP entrant is dealt.

No one on this website will be able to tell you how many visits you can have on VWP per year or how long you can stay for in a year as like I said, there are no such guidelines, and no where is it written down/documented.......however, what people on this forum can do is advise you about lengths of stays/proximity of visits etc that 'could possibly' lead to a denial of entry.
 
elcupacabras said:
I hope you meant 'useful', otherwise this is very rude.



Its not really determining who can stay longer as generally each VWP is given the full 90 days (thought this can be for less should the POE officer have any suspicions.....its rare but it does happen)......it's more like 'who is determined to be granted admittance to the US on VWP'. And youre right about it being a very grey area- and it is purposely intended to be. The person who determines whether someone is granted admittance is the interviewing POE that the visitor is inspected into the country- if the POE officer suspects that a person is abusing the VWP (ie attempting to live in the US by demonstrating multiple entries/lengthy stays in the US which dont follow the patterns of a genuine visitor) then it is likely they will be denied entry. A reason which one POE officer denies a person entry for, a different officer may grant entry.
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haha sorry i ment useful :) my bad.
 
elcupacabras said:
Its not a 3 month visa they get......the get admitted 'visa free' (hence the name 'visa waiver') and can stay up to a total of 90 days per visit.

Many people enter multiple times per year on the VWP, especially those on business trips, so someone can definitely enter the US on the VWP more than 2 times. I personally entered 5 times in one year.....my trips were short and so I didnt have a problem. Ive seen accounts of where people have done multiple (exceeding 4) back to back visits where they have stayed the entire 90 days and (luckily) were fine (many people abusing the VWP like this would not be so lucky).

So there is no hard and fast number of visits/total time spent in the US per year figures available as there is none.........this is why (as I stated in my last post) this is considered a HUGE grey area and number of entries on VWP (with previous visit lengths being a big factor) before entry denial will be entirely determined upon the POE officer that a VWP entrant is dealt.

No one on this website will be able to tell you how many visits you can have on VWP per year or how long you can stay for in a year as like I said, there are no such guidelines, and no where is it written down/documented.......however, what people on this forum can do is advise you about lengths of stays/proximity of visits etc that 'could possibly' lead to a denial of entry.
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i didnt actually see there visa but sounds bought right seeing u been there already
 
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