FP II Q: Pork Sankrit Ghee and others

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orca

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i most likely received a 2nd FP notice in Denver this last wk (and unsurprisingly, missed it). my address change was put in by mail but INS never updated it for some reason. i called yesterday to change the address. i now live and work in a state under CSC jurisdiction. any idea how complicated things could get here? as far as i know, you guys all have ND's close to mine (mine's 19 Apr 2002). 2 of my friends the same month have also received their respective FP II notices.

i read on the original FP notice that if i reschedule and/or miss showing up, this means abandoning my sweet case. the problem is that the 800 number guys as well as the NSC-IIO's (402 number) don't seem to have a clue as to the whereabouts of this FP. online and verything else is same for me, as they are for my friends. could i possibly do anything to get the FP moved and rescheduled by a 1000 miles to a different state? what happens? and how do i go about doing it anyways? my idea was that FP remains valid for 15 mths, so what's going on?

as an aside, i'm still working on 131, 154, and 164, and am over half-way through those LIN's. will post the excel files in the Greenland Report as soon as they are brushed up.
 
Yes, you can call for re-schedulement for AP. My wife coudn't get fingerprinted, as she was travelling then. We requested couple of times of reschedulement on phone and by a certified mail, to no avail.

In the mean time I changed job, that caused us to move. We called BCIS for change of address, and also mentioned about fingerprinting situation, and bam! got the fingerprinting reschedulement notice in two days.

Note the time difference between first fingerprint notice which she couldn't attend, and the rescheduled notice was more than 15 months.
 
I read your previous postings but donot remember everything.

Atleast in my case my First FP notice and second FP notice both were copied to my attorney. Our attorney's office (they themself) called us to inform regarding the FP notices. Call your attorney, get a copy immediately.

Once you get the copies go to the local INS and test your luck.

Also, please popularise in this website, that when ever there is a address change submitted to INS/BCIS on a pending I-485, it is better to call INS/BCIS to verify that they have updated the new address. Submit separate change of address for each applicant i.e., for spouse and each child.
 
thanks everyone...

...for the prompt responses. actually, i DON'T have an attorney, and never did for the entire case - i filed everything myself. right now, i'm trying to reach the NSC direct line. maybe they'll send the FP notice at the new address now. your posts sound encouraging, though, and if i can get through to them, hopefully they wouldn't consider my case abandoned at this stage.
 
Orca, the BCIS would mostly likely have sent you a FP notice.

My ND is 4/27/02, and my wife and I received our second FP notice last week. We moved (within NSC's jurisdiction though) last Oct, and I wrote NSC about our change of address. I was pleasantly surprised to note that NSC actually took action on my note (I had sent the address change form - 2nd page of G-731N) when I called a couple of months later to check if the address change has been effected on the system.

I was 'thrilled' to receive my second FP - 'cos it was mailed to my new address. I finally had written confirmation that NSC actually had updated my address on their system.

However, there's no indication that a second FP notice was issued (or even that one was sent last June) on the online case status system.

And I don't have a lawyer either!
 
orca...

i was just wondering what it was that led you to conclude that you might have received a second FP notice? was it the online/AVM case status report? if you are going by the observation that many in our ND ballpark have received second FP notices, then that might not be the most dependable premise. for instance, my ND is feb 02, and i haven't received a second FP notice - at least, not yet - and nor has my case status report changed from "FP sent" from the last time.

so, unless you are quite certain otherwise, there may not have been a second FP notice. you might, in that case, attempt to ascertain from an IIO if a second FP has indeed been sent out, and then have it resent/rescheduled.

re the greenland report, i am still working on 02-075 (jan 2, 02). it is taking inordinately long due to the fact that there are large, gaping holes in the receipt number sequence, causing the script to make enough inquiries for non-existant numbers and getting booted out ever so often, so i have to babysit it.

that might explain why you were able to get back in right after being denied access, since making too many inquiries for invalid receipt numbers also gives the same denial message as reaching the 1000 inquiry-a-day limit. only in the former case, you can close the browser and get right back into the game. so unless you were observing goggle-eyed the progress of your script (like me), you might have been hurled out due reasons of too many invalid inquiries.
 
frodo and pork: thanks for your responses. my friends with ND's 04/20-29 received FP's, and though i think pork is right in that the uncertainty factor is high on this one, i think i've a huge hunch that this one has been pitted against me. as for the NSC-IIO's, none of them have info on this RFE - they still show the RFE sent out 05/02 of LAST year. they are, shall i say, so 'simple', for lack of stronger words or my inability to confront these guys with words like 'dumb', that they asked me to spell words such as "chemistry" in my departmental address, to which i was okay since the humanities might not have need for such nonsensical alchemy; but i was driven aghast at her wanting me to spell words like "arizona" (believe me, she said, "could you spell "arizona" for me?" and then, "what is the abbreviation for arizona?", and had hiccups trying to write down "AZ"). in any case, i'll try to spare these poor souls but start believing that you've got to be pretty 'involved' to work in these BCIS dens. my friends' statuses haven't updated, like mine, so there's all the more reasons to suspect more procrastination from the BCIS. could it be, pork, that you got 'condoned' for FP II because you had to go do the SR?

yes, it might be that i'm getting the same thing for the VB script. for the last 2000 or so numbers all in a row, there aren't ANY 485's, which seem surprising for my LIN (164). however, the fun is that i get logged out easily doing this one than some others where i start off fresh. i don't know what this means.
 
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My experience is somewhat similar to frodo's. I was fingerprinted in July '02. Because I provided a change of address at around the same time(within NSC's fiefdom), I received a duplicate fingerprint notice promptly, which I ignored and just wrote to Nebraska informing them of the apparent redundancy.

Curiously though, I received yet another fingerprinting notice again in April '03 (all this while the on-line system faithfully returned the same "we received your application...." message). So this time, feeling the weight of the times, I showed up at the prescribed address and produced the notice, whereupon, in the most laconic manner possible, the official informed me that my prints from July '02 continue to be valid and hence there is no need yet for a second set, and waved me away (a mannerism that appeared much like one I have seen employed by many on the street to keep accosting panhandlers at bay) without providing me any proof that I presented myself as demanded by Nebraska. Of-course, they also retained Nebraska's notices and with a Doc Daneeka like expression, let me know that they will arrange to forward the same to Nebraska as appropriate.

After all this, in what appears to be a bureaucratic attempt at humor, the on-line message now says that a fingerprinting notice was sent to me.... and that I need to contact them if I did not receive it in 14 days....

In light of all that has transpired, you will forgive me if I do not feel very qualified to advise you. However, if I were you, I would call the 800 number and try to change the address once again and subsequently also request a fresh fingerprinting appointment.

Good-luck.
 
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wwossen:
the greenland report -> http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?threadid=83256

orca:
i am inclined to think that SR might not figure the second FP deal, considering that BCIS has not in the past demonstrated any rudiments of the faculty of elementary correlation. why else would they send out additional FP notices? (simple deductive process: homo sapiens' finger prints do not change; why not retain images from first FP and simply ask for update from FBI, and save all concerned considerable incovenience?).

my home address changed in jan 03, and, while my lawyer promised to write in to NSC to have their records updated, the first frisson of worry is shooting through me as to whether i should be wondering why i have not been bestowed with a second FP notice. i really do not cherish the thought of attempting umpteen times to get through to an IIO (which point just might be the beginning of my ordeal...), yet, that is clearly what i must do.
 
Orca,

"i read on the original FP notice that if i reschedule and/or miss showing up, this means abandoning my sweet case. "

The rate at which NSC is going (I should have said NSC is decelerating - reminds me of some exponential decay charts from way back when), if you are considered to have abandoned your application, it may not after all be such a bad thing! It may very well be that the next immigration amnesty train will arrive sooner than the NSC legal EB AOS approvals rake.

It is all for one's best!
 
Sankrityayan

there's a joke (the truth actually) about sending spaceships to the nearest star-systems. consider this: at the rate that NASA sent the voyagers, they'd take approximately 80,000 years (traveling at 0.004 X the speed of light) to reach the closest star-systems. in a way, it wasn't worth it, people guess, since surely in 80,000 years humans would find faster propulsion systems to outpace the voyagers, and so on and so forth. hence, why send these missions at all?

it's like buying a computer - i love to get the latest stuff, only to be dwarfed (halved, so to speak) every 1.5 years or so. if i just waited another year, i'd be able to get a faster machine. well, may be it's not worth buying one of these either if you believe in Moore's Laws.

i ain't sure why it is that it takes the length of time it actually does for these guys to just do a basic security check and enter some biographical crap in their system. at the 485 stage, this could be done by an automated system - literally. what a waste of time and stinky gray matters! if McDonald's goes bankrupt, we'll know why they couldn't hire smart employees.
 
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