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Employment Visa Statistic 2006
- Thread starter sfmars
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indian_gc_ocean
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thanks for the link sfmars. time for us to stop all our visa number distribution hypothesis and live in reallity. everybody can make their calculation to determine their date.
gravitation
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Data for India
Foreign State: India
1st: 3,156
2nd: 3,720
3rd: 3,006
3rd OtherWorkers: 175
3rd Total: 3,181
4th: 424
4th Certain ReligiousWorkers: 187
4th Total: 611
Foreign State: India
1st: 3,156
2nd: 3,720
3rd: 3,006
3rd OtherWorkers: 175
3rd Total: 3,181
4th: 424
4th Certain ReligiousWorkers: 187
4th Total: 611
mariner555
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Saras,
your comments on this ? does this mean they issued only 3000 green cards for EB3 India ? I guess yes ..wierd !! it would seem that chances of winning a lottery is more than getting GC with 2004 PD
your comments on this ? does this mean they issued only 3000 green cards for EB3 India ? I guess yes ..wierd !! it would seem that chances of winning a lottery is more than getting GC with 2004 PD
freezthefire
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Looking at that I have a feeling that they are just holding back on the visas, since they are still uncertain about the number of cases at the BEC's.
They are just playing safe and once that gets cleared, they will start moving the dates, since they will have a much better estimate and also they will not do injustice to the people whose cases are at the BEC's.
They are just playing safe and once that gets cleared, they will start moving the dates, since they will have a much better estimate and also they will not do injustice to the people whose cases are at the BEC's.
Thanks sfmars.
1st -- 37,504
2nd -- 22,430
3rd -- 58,357
3rd OtherWorkers -- 5,008
3rd Total -- 63,365
4th -- 6,460
4th Certain ReligiousWorkers -- 3,062
4th Total -- 9,522
Total = 37,504 + 22,430 + 63,365 + 9,522
= 132,821
Annual Quota = 140,000
Unused = 7,179
It seems that eb3 RoW could have got another 7,179 visas. Not sure, how much movement this would have caused.
I tend to agree with freezthefire. seems like they conserve visa numbers till the last quarter of the fiscal year or till the BECs are done with most of their backlogs and give them some realistic estimate ...
Given the massive need for visa numbers this year,still they would NOT have used up all the numbers(as with most years before) at the end of the fiscal year ...... no accountablity .....
Given the massive need for visa numbers this year,still they would NOT have used up all the numbers(as with most years before) at the end of the fiscal year ...... no accountablity .....
One thing is clear
Unused EB1 and EB2 ROW flow to EB3 - ROW and not EB2 India or China.
India total (10688) is pretty close to 7% of 140,000 (= 10546).
If they were going by 7% rule strictly they couldn't have approved any more EB3 or EB2 s. So not sure if they are "holding back" on any visas.
-dink
Unused EB1 and EB2 ROW flow to EB3 - ROW and not EB2 India or China.
India total (10688) is pretty close to 7% of 140,000 (= 10546).
If they were going by 7% rule strictly they couldn't have approved any more EB3 or EB2 s. So not sure if they are "holding back" on any visas.
-dink
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so approximately 3000-4000 GCs in EB2 category every year. It would have been nice to see the number of principals and dependents.
2-4 visas consumed per principal would mean ~ 1000-2000 labor certs/year.
long wait for eb2 and eb3 india
2-4 visas consumed per principal would mean ~ 1000-2000 labor certs/year.
long wait for eb2 and eb3 india
Foreign State: India
1st: 3,156
2nd: 3,720
3rd: 3,006
3rd OtherWorkers: 175
3rd Total: 3,181
4th: 424
4th Certain ReligiousWorkers: 187
4th Total: 611
Numbers ...
freexhefire,
I tend to agree with your assertion. Until all the backlogs from the BECs are not "officially" processed, there will be very little or no movement in most categories. Once the BEC backlogs are processed movement will be forward or backward depending on the number that make it to the next stage.
India EB3 used 3006 visas last year. Until visa numbers are increased we can expect the same number each year. Probably about 40-50% of these are for primary applicants so the real number of EB3 primary applicants getting approved is just around 1500 or less.
Without a change in the law, this situation will stay grim.
regards,
saras
Looking at that I have a feeling that they are just holding back on the visas, since they are still uncertain about the number of cases at the BEC's.
They are just playing safe and once that gets cleared, they will start moving the dates, since they will have a much better estimate and also they will not do injustice to the people whose cases are at the BEC's.
freexhefire,
I tend to agree with your assertion. Until all the backlogs from the BECs are not "officially" processed, there will be very little or no movement in most categories. Once the BEC backlogs are processed movement will be forward or backward depending on the number that make it to the next stage.
India EB3 used 3006 visas last year. Until visa numbers are increased we can expect the same number each year. Probably about 40-50% of these are for primary applicants so the real number of EB3 primary applicants getting approved is just around 1500 or less.
Without a change in the law, this situation will stay grim.
regards,
saras
One interesting thing ..
The one interesting thing is that more India EB2's rather than EB3's have been approved yet the dates for EB3 India are way behind India EB2. This is probably due to the 245is from India that are projected to flood the system from the BECs.
regards,
saras
so approximately 3000-4000 GCs in EB2 category every year. It would have been nice to see the number of principals and dependents.
2-4 visas consumed per principal would mean ~ 1000-2000 labor certs/year.
long wait for eb2 and eb3 india
The one interesting thing is that more India EB2's rather than EB3's have been approved yet the dates for EB3 India are way behind India EB2. This is probably due to the 245is from India that are projected to flood the system from the BECs.
regards,
saras
andy garcia
Registered Users (C)
Thanks sfmars.
1st -- 37,504
2nd -- 22,430
3rd -- 58,357
3rd OtherWorkers -- 5,008
3rd Total -- 63,365
4th -- 6,460
4th Certain ReligiousWorkers -- 3,062
4th Total -- 9,522
Total = 37,504 + 22,430 + 63,365 + 9,522
= 132,821
Annual Quota = 140,000
Unused = 7,179
It seems that eb3 RoW could have got another 7,179 visas. Not sure, how much movement this would have caused.
Hi desi;
The correct number is 133,623. You missed the 802 for EB5.
However, the limit was not 140,000.
The actual limit was 143,949.
This info was on the Visa Bulletin for August 2006.
andy
bigbang2001
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At least UN is vindicated. He was telling about this but had few believers at least initially.
Law would not change with election year looming next. Enjoy the spring and summer.
Law would not change with election year looming next. Enjoy the spring and summer.
Unused EB1 and EB2 ROW flow to EB3 - ROW and not EB2 India or China.
India total (10688) is pretty close to 7% of 140,000 (= 10546).
If they were going by 7% rule strictly they couldn't have approved any more EB3 or EB2 s. So not sure if they are "holding back" on any visas.
-dink
10K is nothing
Hanuman55,
10K is nothing. In the past USCIS has wasted upwards of 30K visas each year because they were to slow to process. Then when they sped up they approved randomly and in the process gave away visas without regard for RD or PD.
There is no point worrying to much about this mess. Its clear that we need a law change. Not sure when that may happen ...
regards,
saras
To let 10K visas lapse and move dates as if you have a super calibrated system!
Hanuman55,
10K is nothing. In the past USCIS has wasted upwards of 30K visas each year because they were to slow to process. Then when they sped up they approved randomly and in the process gave away visas without regard for RD or PD.
There is no point worrying to much about this mess. Its clear that we need a law change. Not sure when that may happen ...
regards,
saras
Interesting
They "wasted" atleast about 10K visas while maintaining backlogs. Perhaps a little more since there is usually a few thousand overflow from the family categories.
The overflow is definitely going down vertically in EB categories rather than horizontally across EB categories. So EB India/China will be capped out at about 10K annually unless the situation changes. At that rate the wait times are going to be very long for anyone in EB India.
It is interesting that EB3 for many countries like poland, ecuador, phillipines etc nearly 5-6 had used EB3 numbers more than EB3 India which has been heavily
backlogged all this time.
EB1 India and China are using almost their entire quota, so there is litle hope of downward flow within those country numbers either.
They "wasted" atleast about 10K visas while maintaining backlogs. Perhaps a little more since there is usually a few thousand overflow from the family categories.
The overflow is definitely going down vertically in EB categories rather than horizontally across EB categories. So EB India/China will be capped out at about 10K annually unless the situation changes. At that rate the wait times are going to be very long for anyone in EB India.
It is interesting that EB3 for many countries like poland, ecuador, phillipines etc nearly 5-6 had used EB3 numbers more than EB3 India which has been heavily
backlogged all this time.
EB1 India and China are using almost their entire quota, so there is litle hope of downward flow within those country numbers either.
Chicago Desi
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Just take a look at number of people coming from South Korea, UK and Canada. No wonder EB3 ROW is stuck for such a long period of time. They should have their own queue just like Mexico, Philipines, India and China.
Yes ..
Chicago Desi,
I guess the cut-offs are based on the backlogs. At any given time backlogged cases from India, China and Mexico are probably a lot higher than the countries you have mentioned. That being said, I am sure there are a few countries that are benefitting from being in ROW while still having a substantial number of applicants.
regards,
saras
Just take a look at number of people coming from South Korea, UK and Canada. No wonder EB3 ROW is stuck for such a long period of time. They should have their own queue just like Mexico, Philipines, India and China.
Chicago Desi,
I guess the cut-offs are based on the backlogs. At any given time backlogged cases from India, China and Mexico are probably a lot higher than the countries you have mentioned. That being said, I am sure there are a few countries that are benefitting from being in ROW while still having a substantial number of applicants.
regards,
saras
True ..
UN,
You are right. 10K unused visas is not bad at all. It does feel like a huge waste because in days of retro when entire countries are being allocated 3K visas for the whole year, 10K (over thrice as many) are going unused. Like you said, there is no way they can fix this one. You would think they could pre-approve cases while in retro and speed up approval once the app becomes current. This would ensure maximum utilization of visa numbers. Oh well, this is the USCIS we are talking about ...
later,
saras
One of the purposes of ac21 was to allow unused visas to be re-allocated each quarter if total demand was less then supply.
Reason they had made this change was that in the past they wouldn't release the unused visas until the fourth quarter. They would then only have a small 3 month window to accept cases, adjudicate and approve them. If they weren't able to allocate those unused visas in the fourth quarater then they would be lost forever.
This will also be an issue going forward. However, it shouldn't be that big of a problem because when they release the unused visas in the fourth quarter; it will cause cases which are already sitting there to become approvable; they won't necessarily be new cases.
With fingerprints expiring; people in visa interviews; stuck in name check, rfe's, etc.; it is highly doubtful they would ever use up 100% of all greencards every year. There is always going to be some unused visas.
UN,
You are right. 10K unused visas is not bad at all. It does feel like a huge waste because in days of retro when entire countries are being allocated 3K visas for the whole year, 10K (over thrice as many) are going unused. Like you said, there is no way they can fix this one. You would think they could pre-approve cases while in retro and speed up approval once the app becomes current. This would ensure maximum utilization of visa numbers. Oh well, this is the USCIS we are talking about ...
later,
saras
infohunger
New Member
So if we accept that there were 143,949 EB visas available in FY 2006, then the total EB-1 -EB-5 visas (7%) available to an individual country was 10,076. India (10688), Mexico (10400) and South Korea(10537) clearly exceeded this number. [There seems to be an error in the China columns in this prelim data, the numbers don't add up].
So here is the question of the hour: why no cutoff dates for clearly "oversubscribed " South Korea??
So here is the question of the hour: why no cutoff dates for clearly "oversubscribed " South Korea??