unitednations said:
Here is #1 problem:
What everyone thinks is skilled worker is not skilled worker in business definition.
At a high level: employment base immigration should attract the best and brightest of people around the world who bring their valuable education/experience to USA. That is; it should be used to "steal" other countries resources.
It should not be designed to circumvent family base immigration (that is instead of people sponsoring through family they go through employment to get people here faster).
All of the people who fit definition of what USA is looking for; are already accomodated in employment base immigration. The top actors, entertainers, athletes, scholars, media, top business people, executives, etc. are all accomodated within the system and can get here pretty easily and stay here pretty easily.
If system was broke and a top actor, NASA scientist, journalist, business leader could not get here then there would be considerable noise to "fix the system".
For people who have "less skills" in business sense there is less argument. People jumping between companies, getting laid off, wanting to jump companies, as soon as they can; want to design a system to facilitate themselves without any good reason then it is much more difficult to do.
Being the former CFO of mutual funds of two of the top five banks in the world; I have a lot of insight on how this stuff works. My whole professional career has been involved with US "system". I know how it is manipulated at high and low levels ("spin"). I'm actually pretty good at doing it myself.
I will take a page from what happened to the leader of the "crips" gang in Los Angeles.
Crips gang was brutal; killed a lot of people; had street wars, did a lot of damage through the drug trade. Their original founder had been in jail for over 20 years. He "reformed himself". He wrote children's books to stay away from gangs; nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. As his death sentence was coming up; there was a lot of sentiment to get Governor to commute it. All the publicity was one way; in favor of him (former journalists, actors, people from the community, etc.). As soon as the people from the other side realized that his sentence could get commuted then they went into action to destroy the people who were in his favor. They discussed how easy it is to get nominated with nobel peace prize; had family victims speak up; former police officers started discussing how he is still a gang member; damage to the community, etc, etc.
Bottom line was that he did die and governor didn't commute the sentence.
This one is a little touchy subject but; in presidential elections; there was drives in Ohio and Florida to get as many African Americans to register because they are traditionally Democrats and they wanted to vote out republicans. However, Republicans still won the election. Many of the European Americans have thought process that what is good for "african americans" is bad for them. They then ensured they came out and voted. (I know this sounds like a little stretch but start digging deep into european americans and this will come to the surface)
How, is this all relevant? You can make it all positive but then are you ready for the onslaught from the other side. The sad stories that everyone is giving or will be forced to give; don't have any merit to them and will hurt the process even more.
Two of the recent people who tried impeaching me, or going after my credibility; have shown their true colors. One of them came over from immigration voice and out of the blue starts posting nonsense. Reason could be that maybe people from these forums who are dual members were pointing to some of my postings of why some things may not be a good idea. He starts coming over and starts talking about my agenda when he had the real agenda.
Now; he shows his profile and was laid off and switched to a staffing company which saved his "a--" so he didn't have to leave. Note: I have saved many people like this myself; however, this is not the poster boy or stories you want as it will hurt you in that "immigration" is broken because a person in that situation should be forced to leave.
One thing that I personally don't like is when an actor/entertiner/athlete takes up some noble cause like breast cancer, or something similar. When you start digging in; you find that spouse was inflicted with breast cancer. It is easy to lobby when you have a vested interest in that you will get something out of it.
However; one has more credibility when one doesn't have a vested interest and is arguing why something is good idea.
So u pointing at me now. BTW, the best of the best get layed off or fired at some stage in their lives. Though I don't say I am the best or the brightest, let me tell u, if I was layed off because I was inefficient, and if thats happening to me always and if I am not earning good name or struggling for surviving, then, offocurse, ur point makes sense. But, let me tell u, I was not actually layed off, I was a "scapegoat" for a political reason at my company and did not have enough political support and was forced and fooled into accepting a fault that was done by a innefficient influential person. If the system had no options for me, I would have left. But, in my situation, I did what I best possibly could. Associating with a staffing company makes people look down on u, and always a fear that the company will have immigration issues. But, one I stepped into the market, I am able to improve my resume, learn new excellent technologies, please note that, when u r a consultant, the client expects a lot more from u, and in the process, u work harder and improve ur skill base. I am not those "low earning" consultants, who massage their h1b petitions, GC petitions with more skills than they have or provide wrong and fradulent data. And my staffing company is not one of those that do all sorts of things that u always keep saying about. A lot of people in similar situations, my friends who got layed off in 7th year, 8th year etc... did similar things, some joined perm jobs, some moved to consulting again because $$$, some moved to companies with the promise of sub labor (only if their billing would yield $$$ in minimum). Some people figure out that they are not getting any promotions, and want to expand their resume and also want a change from their routine jobs, they make use of these options.
Now, do you think, system must be in such a way that people must suffer and go away??? My dear friend, u r living in a dream world. When I got 6th + 7th year extension from a staffing company based on Labor filed by my layed off company, one thing I was worried about was stamping in Chennai. The consular officer looked at my records, everything was clean, he asked if this is a staffing company? I said yes, looked at all my w2s and current year paystubs, there was no fault, he then asked me, did I change jobs in 6th year of H1b, I said yes. Thats it, I got my stamping.
Your views about staffing companies and how people are using them or they are abusing the system, is well agreed on, but ur views about layed off people must go away etc.. are not right. When I joined the staffing company and started working for clients, after 3 months of working for a client, they would ask me to join them perm (H1b and GC), my current client also thinks that at some stage they can hire me perm, but I am "cautious" in general, I won't join a company fulltime unless, I feel safe. Getting a perm job and h1b + GC sponsership is not difficult, but sticking onto and increasing ur billing rate and ability to satisfy any job u do, is challenging and those who do that, are the real smart people.
While, staffing companies thrive over people who are efficient only because of this process, they seem to take good care of immigration issues in return. Like it is said, u lose somehing to gain something, life is not that easy as u all think it is. Ability to adapt to changes is what makes a person capable. It won't take a while for me to go back to a perm job, but I will definitely do it when "staffing companies are banned".
Once again- I don't have any issues with u, or don't undermine ur skills and helpful nature. But ur views are narrow and u don't look at the bigger picture.
