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yeaher

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Hello, everyone, I find this is really a good place. I have a question with regard to the permanent position for Eb1-OR. I was a postdoc from 2003 oct-2005 July. Now my title is research associate, the job offer from my boss and letter from dean did not mention the "postdoc", how should I describe my title for that period in my resume, I am just wondering if I say clearly I used to be postdoc it may hurt my petition, since the interval is too short. BTW, what kind of material is needed to estabilish the position is "permanent" for a research associate? the two letters (from boss and dean) are sufficient enough? I will appreciate any of your suggestions.
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My qualifications:
1. PhD in chemistry 2002 July in foreign country
2. 26 papers (11 first author) 60 citations (one paper in my PhD has 30 citations), and one granted patent in foreign country
3. Chemical Engineering News-a weekly magzine sponsored by American Chemical Society reported my work in 2001 , but unfortunately it did not mention my name, but my boss's.
4. I am participating in projects funded by NSF, AFOSR (air force office of scientific research) and ONR (office of Naval Research).
5. Several recommendation letters, some from big guys in our field.
 
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yeaher said:
Hello, everyone, I find this is really a good place. I have a question with regard to the permanent position for Eb1-OR. I was a postdoc from 2003 oct-2005 July. Now my title is research associate, the job offer from my boss and letter from dean did not mention the "postdoc", how should I describe my title for that period in my resume, I am just wondering if I say clearly I used to be postdoc it may hurt my petition, since the interval is too short. BTW, what kind of material is needed to estabilish the position is "permanent" for a research associate? the two letters (from boss and dean) are sufficient enough? I will appreciate any of your suggestions.
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My qualifications:
1. PhD in chemistry 2002 July in foreign country
2. 26 papers (11 first author) 60 citations (one paper in my PhD has 30 citations), and one granted patent in foreign country
3. Chemical Engineering News-a weekly magzine sponsored by American Chemical Society reported my work in 2001 , but unfortunately it did not mention my name, but my boss's.
4. I am participating in projects funded by NSF, AFOSR (air force office of scientific research) and ONR (office of Naval Research).
5. Several recommendation letters, some from big guys in our field.
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Good OR case!

Yes! you have to be cautious about use of P word. On the other hand you are now Research Associate which is good. Although most university takes P and RA as same but some clearly define both. You can submit university rule page which clearly differentiate between both.

I beleive it won't harm if you use the P word in letters where you were postdoc. I am sure by now Immigration authorities are full aware of gradual growth of post docs to RA or faculty postion. It is important that you are having permanent position during filling of Eb1-OR petition. I guess in normal case Dean's and Boss's letter will be sufficient but I would go for two more letter
1. Business office of your Department (one who takes care of your salary etc)
2. Human Resource department
All 4 letters should write that magic word PERMANENT.

something like

RE: Dr. XXX, Job Verification

Dear Sir/Madam;

This is to certify that Dr XXX (Employee ID XXX) is a fulltime permanent employee at the XXX at the University of XXX. He is currently working as Research Associate at the Department of XXX. He joined this position on XXX and was offered to work on this position for an indefinite time. Along with the salary, Dr XXX is awarded several benefits such as health insurance, retirement plans, and tuition reduction. I also wish to certify that Dr. had full authority to hire Dr. XXX as a Permanent Research Employee in their research laboratory.
 
I heard INS sometime question about where the salary from. If it is from the research funding of your boss, it may not ben considered "permanent". They like to see you are still employed even the boss run out of research funding. So if your salary is from the university, say it.
 
Joo77 said:
I heard INS sometime question about where the salary from. If it is from the research funding of your boss, it may not ben considered "permanent". They like to see you are still employed even the boss run out of research funding. So if your salary is from the university, say it.
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I am paid by my boss, not university, God bless me!
 
yeaher said:
Hello, everyone, I find this is really a good place. I have a question with regard to the permanent position for Eb1-OR. I was a postdoc from 2003 oct-2005 July. Now my title is research associate, the job offer from my boss and letter from dean did not mention the "postdoc", how should I describe my title for that period in my resume, I am just wondering if I say clearly I used to be postdoc it may hurt my petition, since the interval is too short. BTW, what kind of material is needed to estabilish the position is "permanent" for a research associate? the two letters (from boss and dean) are sufficient enough? I will appreciate any of your suggestions.
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My qualifications:
1. PhD in chemistry 2002 July in foreign country
2. 26 papers (11 first author) 60 citations (one paper in my PhD has 30 citations), and one granted patent in foreign country
3. Chemical Engineering News-a weekly magzine sponsored by American Chemical Society reported my work in 2001 , but unfortunately it did not mention my name, but my boss's.
4. I am participating in projects funded by NSF, AFOSR (air force office of scientific research) and ONR (office of Naval Research).
5. Several recommendation letters, some from big guys in our field.
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Looks like a good case for OR-category.
In my opinion, including postdoc word in the resume would not hurt as it is well know that most researchers start as PDs. You have to make sure about the wording in the offer letter (where postdoc should be avoided).
Be prepared for an RFE on permenent position (it is becoming a common RFE for majority of OR petition). It is better to state in the offer letter that you are working in multiple grants and the research program in which ur are involved is very active and the college expects to have continued funding for indefinite period. check if my earlier posting is of any use to you in this matter.
BTW which center are you in?
Good luck,
 
Well Funding is serious issue!
Offer letter from your boss plays very important role here.
try getting offer letter from boss essentially saying that your salary is paid from general budget of department
Please don't mention any kind of FUNDS (no NIH, etc).
I must say if you get all these you will not get RFE.

I am pleased to offer you a position as Research Associate in the Department of XXX at University XXX effective as of XXX. We offer you annual salary of $XXX , which will be paid biweekly from general budget of the department. This position is permanent research position with an expectation of continued employment unless there is good cause for termination.
 
Toxsci said:
Looks like a good case for OR-category.
In my opinion, including postdoc word in the resume would not hurt as it is well know that most researchers start as PDs. You have to make sure about the wording in the offer letter (where postdoc should be avoided).
Be prepared for an RFE on permenent position (it is becoming a common RFE for majority of OR petition). It is better to state in the offer letter that you are working in multiple grants and the research program in which ur are involved is very active and the college expects to have continued funding for indefinite period. check if my earlier posting is of any use to you in this matter.
BTW which center are you in?
Good luck,
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NSC, the horrible one!
 
Job offer

Please see my job offer:


Dear Dr.XX

I am pleased to offer you the position of Research Associate in the Department of XXX beginning XXX, 2005, at the salary of XXXXX per fiscal year. This is a continuing appointment at the University of XXX, Fringe benefits including healthy insurance and 7.4 hours of annual leave and 3.7 hours sick leave earned during every two-week period.

I look forward to working with you.
 
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yeaher said:
Please see my job offer:


Dear Dr.XX

I am pleased to offer you the position of Research Associate in the Department of Chemistry beginning July 25, 2005, at the salary of XXXXX per fiscal year. This is a continuing appointment at the University of XXX, Fringe benefits including healthy insurance and 7.4 hours of annual leave and 3.7 hours sick leave earned during every two-week period. Performance evaluations are conducted on an annual basis.

The terms of your employment are subject to the rules of the Regents of the University of XXX, the Governing Policies and Procedures of the Regents of the University of XXX, and the policies and procedures of the University of XXX. Specific terms and conditions applicable to your appointment are contained in the attached Salary Agreement, Terms and Conditions of Employment Supplement to Appointment Letter and Initial Salary Agreement and the Employment Agreement concerning Patents and Copyright. Please sign these forms and return them with your acceptance of this position.

I look forward to working with you.
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You should include that your salary comes from the university budget not from some grants from your boss and most important it is nowhere written that your position is permanent.
 
honkman said:
You should include that your salary comes from the university budget not from some grants from your boss and most important it is nowhere written that your position is permanent.
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Thank you, Honkman. I think the word of "continuing" has the same meaning as "permanent", Maybe I am wrong.
 
You may be right!
I must say that there is no alternative to word permannent in the book of Immigration related to this particular category!
 
yeaher said:
Thank you, Honkman. I think the word of "continuing" has the same meaning as "permanent", Maybe I am wrong.
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IMO, there is a small difference between "continuing" and "permanent". For me "continuing" doesn't say clearly enough that there is no expected end for your job, whereas "permanent" is more obviuos for this issue. But still you should make very clear where the money for your salary comes from, no grants etc.
 
honkman said:
IMO, there is a small difference between "continuing" and "permanent". For me "continuing" doesn't say clearly enough that there is no expected end for your job, whereas "permanent" is more obviuos for this issue. But still you should make very clear where the money for your salary comes from, no grants etc.
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Thanks for your reminder, honkman!
 
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