eb-3 2002

fimbria

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guys who filed eb-3 india,with pd's around june july aug of 2002,how long will it take for our pd's to become current?2ys?optimisticly thinking can it be by 2006 oct nov?pls put ur pds and ur expectations?
 
Definitely after my PD becomes current

fimbria said:
guys who filed eb-3 india,with pd's around june july aug of 2002,how long will it take for our pd's to become current?2ys?optimisticly thinking can it be by 2006 oct nov?pls put ur pds and ur expectations?
One thing for sure, it will be after my PD becomes current.
It will be advisable not to do these guessing games and just wait for your turn.
Here is my past experience in guessing games:
June2004 - After my FP1, expected my approval within a week based on another person's experience posted in this forum - PD was current for EB3 then.
Nov2004 - Unexplainable transfer to local office ( I have worked for my GC sponsoring employer ever since I came to USA and am still working for him)
PD was current for EB3 till Dec2004 - No interview scheduled
Feb/Mar2005 - Expected interview calls based on others' experiences in this forum. PD retrogressed to Jan2002 and then again crossed my PD of Mar2002
No interview scheduled
Sep2005 - The much awaited interview happened; Case approvable; Lo and Behold No visa numbers are available for EB3 India
Looking at the way PD for EB3 India has been progressing in the last few months, it seems lot of 245(i) cases pending for EB3 India.
Once we cross that hump (may be by Oct2006) and labor substitution banned, we can expect fast movement of PD to atleast mid 2002 by Mar2007.
All the best :)
 
down but not out

The way dates are moving for eb3 india it looks 2 years for PD 06/2002 to 08/2002. But on the other hand I am hopeful that a legislation will come shortly to reduce this backlog. In that case 7-10 months from now?

eb3 india
PD - 06/2002
I485 RD 09/2003
I140 Approved
4 EAD's & 3 AP's till now
 
do you think i245 cases for india are too many?thats why our dates are moving so slow.will they eat up all the visa no's of the next fy 2006.
 
Will know when PD crosses 04/30/2001

fimbria said:
do you think i245 cases for india are too many?thats why our dates are moving so slow.will they eat up all the visa no's of the next fy 2006.
We will know only when EB3 India PD moves past 04/30/2001 and makes further progress.
Since EB3 India priority date is lagging behind EB3 Mexico priority dates, I guess there are substantial number of 245(i) cases for India. The other culprit could be labor substitution.
 
No one has a clue

fimbria said:
do you think i245 cases for india are too many?thats why our dates are moving so slow.will they eat up all the visa no's of the next fy 2006.

fimbria,

At this point everything is pure speculation. Even the DOS and the USCIS do not know exaclty how many 245i cases are still pending let alone know the exact number from India. This whole retrogression is based on forecasts and no one knows what data those forecasts have been derived from. I would not try to analyze this issue to much. There really is no sense. The troubling part is that the PD for India moved by just a month for April. No one can really tell you why this is. The list of good guesses (as dallas pointed out) are -

1. There are a lot of 245i cases from India. I would believe this but from what I have heard most of the 245i cases are still stuck in labor and BPCs are not chruning out approvals. Even if they are approving the 245i cases then they are not eligible to file for 485 because Indias EB3 is before April 01. So this theory has a lot of holes in it.

2. Labor substituion. This may be harming us but I do not believe that there are enough labor substituion cases to justify a PD of Feb 01. This is purely my own opinion. I may be entirely wrong here.

3. DOS and USCIS are scared of the "projected" 245i cases and having screwed over thousands of people by approving cases in a random manner without regard for PD, RD or ND over the past 2-3 years, is using this time to clean house. They have a nice excuse in the form of 245i. They have relatively less work and are making sure all the old cases are cleared before opening the flood gates. I am not suggesting that the 245i cases are not a problem, however I am of the opinion that this issue is being used to falsely justify such stiff retrogression dates.

I am sure other readers will have more input into this.

regards,

saras76
 
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saras76 said:
fimbria,

At this point everything is pure speculation. Even the DOS and the USCIS do not know exaclty how many 245i cases are still pending let alone know the exact number from India. This whole retrogression is based on forecasts and no one knows what data those forecasts have been derived from. I would not try to analyze this issue to much. There really is no sense. The troubling part is that the PD for India moved by just a month for April. No one can really tell you why this is. The list of good guesses (as dallas pointed out) are -

1. There are a lot of 245i cases from India. I would believe this but from what I have heard most of the 245i cases are still stuck in labor and BPCs are not chruning out approvals. Even if they are approving the 245i cases then they are not eligible to file for 485 because Indias EB3 is before April 01. So this theory has a lot of holes in it.

2. Labor substituion. This may be harming us but I do not believe that there are enough labor substituion cases to justify a PD of Feb 01. This is purely my own opinion. I may be entirely wrong here.

3. DOS and USCIS are scared of the "projected" 245i cases and having screwed over thousands of people by approving cases in a random manner without regard for PD, RD or ND over the past 2-3 years, is using this time to clean house. They have a nice excuse in the form of 245i. They have relatively less work and are making sure all the old cases are cleared before opening the flood gates. I am not suggesting that the 245i cases are not a problem, however I am of the opinion that this issue is being used to falsely justify such stiff retrogression dates.

I am sure other readers will have more input into this.

regards,

saras76

Saras,
You seem to have a lot of knowledge in these issues.
MY PD is Sept 2002 EB3 India. Now, how do I know if my name check is pending or cleared ?
I applied for my I-44 in April 2004 and had my finger printing done once.
I don't know why I have't recieved my second finger printing notice. I called USCIS to change my address and there is no response from them until now. They gave me some case inquiry number which ends with "VSC".
Any thoughts ?

Thanks.
 
not many approvals

saras
i have been checking to see how many interviews are scheduled each month at mumbai, delhi and chennai consulates for EB3 category for the past 4-5 months. i have hardly seen more than 25-30 Eb3 interviews scheduled for the 3 consulates combined for any one month . now not all folks opt for consulate processing, but so few consulate interviews makes me believe that there are not many cases with priority dates before April 2001 to justify this retrogression and the DOS is just using 245(i) as an excuse to clear out old cases...
 
I am EB3 India with August 2001 PD. I am hoping to get GC by Jan 2008 or im out of here. Wonder if the PD moves to August 01 by then given the 245(i) applicants ? Guess have to take it each visa bulletin at a time. :)
 
I agree

GC37 said:
saras
i have been checking to see how many interviews are scheduled each month at mumbai, delhi and chennai consulates for EB3 category for the past 4-5 months. i have hardly seen more than 25-30 Eb3 interviews scheduled for the 3 consulates combined for any one month . now not all folks opt for consulate processing, but so few consulate interviews makes me believe that there are not many cases with priority dates before April 2001 to justify this retrogression and the DOS is just using 245(i) as an excuse to clear out old cases...

GC37,

I have not followed the consulate interviews but have been very active in this forum for the past 3 years. I know for a fact that in 2004 and early 2005 all service centers went on an approval rampage. There was no FIFO policy, people with PDs in 02 and even 03s got approved. I firmly believe that there aren't to many EB3 India (non 245i) cases with PDs prior to 02 because most have been approved. Most of the non 245i labors stuck in the BEC (Back Log Eliminiation Centers) are from 02 and beyond. They are holding the dates back in pure anticipation of a flood of 245i cases.

I recently read that the stupid BECs are approving labor cases from 03 and 04 and not touching cases from 02 and 01 (mainly 245i cases I assume). There is no FIFO there either. So the USCIS and DOS are waiting for thousands of 245i cases to be approved while the BECs are not touching them and approving cases from 03 and 04. The dates are not moving, 245is are not getting approved and with each passing month we are getting closer to Oct 06 when all the unused EB3 visa numbers will be wasted. It is enough to boil anyones blood but what can we do? We are stuck in a broken system. We have to wait to get lucky ...

Congress can pass any law (this looks unlikely also) but ultimately the DOS and USCIS will have to implement it. I have no hope that they will be able to tackle this issue irrespective of what law is passed. How can you expect such a badly run agency to implement anything properly ...

Yesterday I read that the USCIS is implementing a plan whereby two service centers will deal with family based cases and two will deal with employment based cases. 140/485 cases are already being transferred from CSC to TSC and soon a lot more cases will flow between Service Centers. This is bound to cause even more chaos in the short term. Cases will get transferred to the wrong offices, files will be misplaced and there will be tons of confusion. The backlog will get worse in some centers because cases will be transferred and people in the centers will have no clue as to which cases to work on and how to integrate the process. I do not mean to scare people but I am being realistic in my expectations of this utterly useless system. We are at their mercy and have to hope that we get lucky ... SOMEHOW ...

regards,

saras76
 
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Contacted Senator Cornyn

Have sent the following message to Senator Cornyn through his website:
Quote:
Employment Based EB3 green card retrogression: Could you please ask USCIS to provide the number of green cards approved so far in the current financial year 2006 and the breakup for number of green cards approved under EB3 India which is heavily retrogressed? We fear that the annual quota for employment based green cards will remain unutilized because of the retrogression (which appears to have no basis)
Unquote
Let us see whether this will send a wake up call to USCIS.
 
Retrogression

BPC haven't touched any 245(I) NON RIR cases so far ,most of them filed in April 2001.Until these are eligible to file 485's visa dates will be moving slowly at least another 6 months or so.So there is a chance that some of the 2001 cases will be adjusticated.Once APRIL 2001 cases starts coming out of BPC then EB3 PDS won't move.Given country quota 10000 GC's for EB3 category as per the new praposed legislation it will take long time to move the PD's.To get to 2002 PD's it may take atleast more than 2 years I guess.So this is why we need to raise our voices to take out country quota limit in the specters/frist praposed legislation.Join www.immigratonvoice and raise your voice.
 
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