Could one would lose his GC if..?

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Onie

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Thanks in advance for reading my post here & I'm just hoping i could get some help for you.

Could someone lose his GC if he's going to live & work outside mainland US but still within US territory respectively Saipan, Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, USA? Cuz my wife's planning to transfer there for some reasons. Currently she's somewhere in Eastcoast.

Anyone pls? Help experts! :rolleyes:

Cheers! :)
 
Onie said:
Thanks in advance for reading my post here & I'm just hoping i could get some help for you.

Could someone lose his GC if he's going to live & work outside mainland US but still within US territory respectively Saipan, Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, USA? Cuz my wife's planning to transfer there for some reasons. Currently she's somewhere in Eastcoast.

Anyone pls? Help experts! :rolleyes:

Cheers! :)
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*I am not sure about but you may review the following info'(as it is not straight issue):
Saipan is in CNMI.
It has it's own immigration policy though it is US in jurisdiction(Territory).
(There was an amendment proposed in legislation but not sure whether it passed and affective now).
After World War II, the islands became part of the United Nations Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands. In the 1960s residents began to consider the option of becoming either an independent nation or a U.S.-affiliated jurisdiction. The latter sentiment prevailed, and, in 1978, following resident voter approval and U.S. Congressional ratification of the Covenant to Establish a Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands in Political Union with the United States of America, the Northern Mariana Islands became a U.S. Commonwealth. Residents, who subsequently became U.S. citizens, adopted a local government similar to a U.S. state government, the framework of which is set forth in the Commonwealth Constitution .

Most federal statutory law applies in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. Apart from unique customary law based on oral tradition handed down through the centuries, local law is largely based on U.S. common law.
www.justice.gov.mp/2004cacom.aspx.
www.mymarianas.com/html/display.cfm?sid=1021.
*Is Saipan part of the United States?
Good question, with many answers. Here are a few:

Federal Income Taxes No
Social Security Taxes Yes
Federal Labor Law Yes
Federal Minimum Wage No
US Postal Service Yes
FedEx, Airborne, Etc. No
Telephone Yes (effective 1 July 97)
Currency Yes
>>See link:www.mgnewman.com/saipan/ .
*As per CIS the CNMI may not be a state for them.
Further,as per 8 USC 1102(a)38:
(38) The term “United States”, except as otherwise specifically herein provided, when used in a geographical sense, means the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands of the United States.
www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ html/uscode08/usc_sup_01_8_10_12_20_I.html .
Also see the following court opinion at item6) under 'Factual back ground'
www.cnmilaw.org/pdf/superior_court/ 00-03-27%20A00-0101.pdf.
*From the above it sounds that living and working in saipan(CNMI)
may not be construed as living and working in US.
*However,as this matter is complex it is best to consult an good standing attorney before taking any decision.
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lay man's opinion only.not a legal advise.
 
Participant said:
*I am not sure about but you may review the following info'(as it is not straight issue):
Saipan is in CNMI.
It has it's own immigration policy though it is US in jurisdiction(Territory).
(There was an amendment proposed in legislation but not sure whether it passed and affective now).
After World War II, the islands became part of the United Nations Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands. In the 1960s residents began to consider the option of becoming either an independent nation or a U.S.-affiliated jurisdiction. The latter sentiment prevailed, and, in 1978, following resident voter approval and U.S. Congressional ratification of the Covenant to Establish a Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands in Political Union with the United States of America, the Northern Mariana Islands became a U.S. Commonwealth. Residents, who subsequently became U.S. citizens, adopted a local government similar to a U.S. state government, the framework of which is set forth in the Commonwealth Constitution .

Most federal statutory law applies in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. Apart from unique customary law based on oral tradition handed down through the centuries, local law is largely based on U.S. common law.
www.justice.gov.mp/2004cacom.aspx.
www.mymarianas.com/html/display.cfm?sid=1021.
*Is Saipan part of the United States?
Good question, with many answers. Here are a few:

Federal Income Taxes No
Social Security Taxes Yes
Federal Labor Law Yes
Federal Minimum Wage No
US Postal Service Yes
FedEx, Airborne, Etc. No
Telephone Yes (effective 1 July 97)
Currency Yes
>>See link:www.mgnewman.com/saipan/ .
*As per CIS the CNMI may not be a state for them.
Further,as per 8 USC 1102(a)38:
(38) The term “United States”, except as otherwise specifically herein provided, when used in a geographical sense, means the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands of the United States.
www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ html/uscode08/usc_sup_01_8_10_12_20_I.html .
Also see the following court opinion at item6) under 'Factual back ground'
www.cnmilaw.org/pdf/superior_court/ 00-03-27%20A00-0101.pdf.
*From the above it sounds that living and working in saipan(CNMI)
may not be construed as living and working in US.
*However,as this matter is complex it is best to consult an good standing attorney before taking any decision.
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lay man's opinion only.not a legal advise.
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I would delved into the matter.

Thank you for your time.
 
Just some more info' on moving to the isalnds.

Onie said:
I would delved into the matter.

Thank you for your time.
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MOVING TO THE ISLANDS:

Some people from large metropolitan areas on the U. S. mainland and elsewhere who move to the islands for employment reasons find adjustment difficult and do not remain long after their "initial" enthusiasm wears off. This is not meant to be critical of such people or the islands, it is simply a fact. Usually disenchantment of one spouse or the other is likely to result from one or more of the following: high cost of living compared with the United States particularly for food, rent and utilities; perceived limited medical facilities or educational opportunities; inability to adapt to a different cultural environment; low wages and salaries compared with the mainland or limited employment opportunities for a spouse; expense of moving household effects vast distances and the cost of re-establishing one's household; limited opportunities for professional growth; hot and humid climate; separation from family members on the mainland and the expense of returning for frequent visits; service oriented economy limits opportunities for some professions; limited cultural entertainment; no public transport and water shortages. The above are some of the reasons people leave the islands after a relatively short period and return to the U. S. mainland. It is strange, however, that after leaving the islands to resume their previous urban lifestyle elsewhere, many regret having left the islands and long to return.

Before accepting an employment opportunity it is always best to first visit the area and certainly this is true before abandoning one career or geographic location for another, selling the house and giving the dog away.

ENTRY PROCEDURES (Visitors):

U.S. visitors entering the Commonwealth must show proof of citizenship, (passport, birth certificate, naturalization papers, etc.) Non United States citizens must have a valid passport and round trip or onward trip ticket with a valid visa to their next destination if other than their home country. Authorization for visits of 30 days or less is given at the visitors point of entry. If the purpose of the visit for non U.S. citizens is to conduct business, authorization for visits of 14 days or less is given at the point of entry. Permits authorizing presence of more than 14 days must be obtained by applying through the Department of Labor and Immigration. For laborers, work permits must be obtained in advance. Non U.S. citizens (other than former Trust Territory citizens) cannot enter the Commonwealth on a tourist visa and, while present in the CNMI, obtain a work permit. Work permits for nonresidents must be obtained prior to entry. Regardless of citizenship, U.S./CNMI citizen residents traveling to and from Guam and the Commonwealth must clear immigration and customs at both destinations.
See further at:
net.saipan.com/personal/vanlanen/info/info_pg2.htm

However check whether a GC holder needs a work permit,contacting CNMI govt.
www.gov.mp
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Above is Not a legal advise.Lay man's opinion only.
 
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