Company withdraw I-140....Any idea???

painful140

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Hi everyone,

My company informed me that they withdraw my I140 two days ago. Does anyone know how long will take USIC to process withdraw case? I am so disappointed about it because I think two more months my I140 may get approval. I have been spent 4 years in this company, and all suddendly, all my time and effort are in vain.
My I140 RD: Aug 30. 2003
I485 Rd: Jan 4, 2004
EAD, AP: approval March,2004
FP done: April, 2004

The company laid me off in May. Please let me know if I still can hold any hope on this I140? Any chance get approval on this I140? Is there anyway that I can keep this I140 processing or I need to start over again from LC???
Any advice will be highly appreciated.
Thank you very much..


Painful140
 
painful140 said:
Hi everyone,

My company informed me that they withdraw my I140 two days ago. Does anyone know how long will take USIC to process withdraw case? I am so disappointed about it because I think two more months my I140 may get approval. I have been spent 4 years in this company, and all suddendly, all my time and effort are in vain.
My I140 RD: Aug 30. 2003
I485 Rd: Jan 4, 2004
EAD, AP: approval March,2004
FP done: April, 2004

The company laid me off in May. Please let me know if I still can hold any hope on this I140? Any chance get approval on this I140? Is there anyway that I can keep this I140 processing or I need to start over again from LC???
Any advice will be highly appreciated.
Thank you very much..


Painful140
I do not think that you can do anything. since 140 is not approved, if they will send a withdrawl request, your 140 may not be approved. Tough luck man. Yes, you will have to start from LC again ... You should consult with a lawyer and read if someone else had a similar experience.
 
Dazzling & Lcauser,

Thank you for your information. Actually, the company has sent the withdraw letter last week, and states i was only employed until June 1, 2004.
Very bad, right?
I don't know if there anyone has the same situation as mine, hopefully not..
Just wanna know any way that I 140 can still process?

Painful 140
 
Painful140,

Consult a good lawyer and try to see if you can use AC21. I know, it's very risky using AC21. But, when there is no other go, it's worth trying it.

Find a good company who can cooperate with you and join them using AC21. Nothing worse can heppen than what you are already in.

Meanwhile, for a back up, you can apply for another labour. This is my suggestion.

-rkishore999
 
You may have a chance if ur 485 was also filed with 140 and it has been more than 180 days since u filed 485. Try AC21 ... its worth a shot
 
Same situation

painful140 said:
Dazzling & Lcauser,

Thank you for your information. Actually, the company has sent the withdraw letter last week, and states i was only employed until June 1, 2004.
Very bad, right?
I don't know if there anyone has the same situation as mine, hopefully not..
Just wanna know any way that I 140 can still process?

Painful 140

Painful 140,
I am here to give you company. My 140 was withdrawn by company on March 17 this year. My 140/485 were filed with RD of 6/27/2003 and ND of 7/11/2003. I also worked for the company for five years, was given best employee award, gave the company a billing of 2.5 millions plus on myself only in 5 years and more than 10 millions in new opportunities. But because one of the partners brother needed a substitute labor, mine was withdrawn and given to him.

I do not regret that because I was able to leave the employer still in time and am doing better than that and he cannot earn more out of me. I know he is suffering now and needs my expertise but I am not looking back at all.
The only thing I regret is my failure to see the true colors of the employer in advance although many warned me on that.

Now back to 140, I got notified by attorney in writing that my 140 was withdrawn on March 17. I found another job and applied AC21. Now 7 days back, RFE has been issued on my case. My case is still not denied. I do not see much hope but as the law is not clear, I am fighting on the basis of 180 days clause.

That is best we can do. I do not know if my case would get approved but because RFE has been issued and case is not denied yet, there is very little hope still left.

I would suggest you to take AC21 step and fight for it. You do not have much time, so you have to act fast. This may at least delay the denial (if not get the approval) and buy you some time to plan alternative steps.

If you want to send a personal mail, use my email - neversayno999@yahoo.com.

Best of luck.
 
Hi GC Case Gone,
Thank you for sharing your story. We are in the same boat. It makes me feel upset how can those employers treat their employees like this way??
Did your I140 get approved? Mine is not approved yet.
I sent you an email. please check it.
i need your advise.
Painful 140
 
One more approach is to sue BCIS

All the problem is caused by CIS's disordered approval. They approves new I-140/485 application (pilot program) at the cost of many old pending I-140/485. Even more, the director of CIS does not allow old applicants to withdraw and refile to take the benefit. This is unfair treatment and should againt some federal laws. Look for a good attorney and sue BCIS. As a layman, I guess you should win the case. Further information:


From: http://www.immigration-law.com/
05/14/2004: California Service Center Concurrent Adjudication Pilot Initiation and Warning Against Abuse

We reported earlier that the California Service Center was launching I-140/I-485 concurrent adjudication pilot program for the concurrent I-140/I-485 filing cases inasmuch as it is non-National Interest Waiver case and filed after certain date. Qualified cases were supposed to be adjudicated in less than 90 days.
Apparently, CSC is concerned at this time that those who have already filed concurrent I-140/I-485 cases or I-140 petition alone may withdraw the pending cases to refile a concurrent I-140/I-485 case to take advantage of the pilot program.
AILA reports that CSC will not take such withdrawn-refiling cases qualified for the pilot program and will not adjudicate such cases concurrently. It appears, though, that such decision may raise a legal question of arbitraniness in administration of adjudication function. It may also raise the issue of "equal" protection and fairness. The agency may create a "class" without permissible legal justification or constitutional basis just as seen in the "Francis" decision. We'll see.
 
Its really unfortunate that our life/future in this country is dependent on so many factors that we cannot control. After working/sweating for 5 to 6 years for an employer and waiting on a 140 approval is really bad. I can understand how your guys feel.

painful140, GC Gonecase, I wish you guys get your 140 approvals soon. AC21 rules are also not very clear. CIS introduces pilot programs which proves to be a boon for some and a curse for others.

GC Gone Case, please post any updates to your 140. Hope it goes smoothly.

They (CIS) should atleast give the flexibility to change jobs after a 140 and 485 is being pending for more than 180 days.
 
Still I don't understand why they need I140 application approval to excute AC21. It is employer based. Why they are linking with the employee job change?

Who knows? Even they will ask you to get an approval from the nearest safeway manager.
 
Let's fight againt CSC's pilot program

I have drafted the letter below to fight againt CSC's stupid pilot program. Anyone who are capable of writing, please polish it as much as you can.
I suggest we send the letter to as many congressmen as possible, in order to seek a solution. As AILA points out, CSC's unfair practice will create a class of application who file I-140/485 earlier. I assume we can find a way to sue CSC as a class if our seek of solution does not work.


Dear Honorable Senator/Congress(wo)man <XXXX>

Subject : Request for addressing the backlog for Employment based I-140/485 applications

We want to draw your attention to the excruciatingly slow and random progress of I-140/485 applications California Service centers.

We are happy that the congress men like you have put enough pressure on US CIS (formerly known as INS) to reduce the backlog of immigration applications. We are aware of the recent presentations of Mr Eduardo Aguire, the honorable director of Unites States Citizenship and Immigration Services, about the backlog reduction plan. After reading the backlog reduction plan and the milestones, we would like to make the following submissions to you.

1. Random Processing
In May 2004, California service center (CSC) introduce a pilot program for concurrently filed I-140/485. CSC has stated that people who concurrently filed I-140/485 cannot even withdraw and refile to take the advantage of the pilot program. Therefore, the total effect is that CSC process new filed I-140/485 while leaving many more old applicantions on the shelf. This is totally unfair for those who have waited there for years. We have seems quite a few people who wait for their I-140 for a year or so (the whole waiting on green card for four years or so) got layed off and the whole four years of waiting is wasted. We have also saw many people who filed in 2004 got all their I-140/485 approved.

The logic of I-140/485 is to process new cases first so that they do not have to file EAD/AP application, that will save CSC resources. However, leaving the old I-140/485 on the shelf for years will force many of them to file EAD/AP more than once, which will create CSC the same amount of work. Therefore, I think they idea of this pilot program is totally unreasonable and should be stopped as soon as possible. Basically, CSC serves the people who comes later and lets those on the front of line wait for more years. This simply does not make logical sense.


2. Manipulating Average Cycle Time
In their recent backlog reduction plan milestones, US CIS has shown that they will bring down the average cycle time to 20 months by the end of FY2004. The average cycle time was defined as the average time taken, over the last 12 months, to approve an application. Currently Vermont Service Center is showing the official processing date as 02/15/2002. That means that on an average, official time taken to approve the application, is more than 28 months. We are wondering how the average can come down to 20 months within the next 3 months . If the applications are processed in a serial manner, then to achieve the average processing time of 20 months by September’30 of 2004 (FY2004), the official processing date has to advance to 01/31/2003. It is just hard to believe that they can advance the current processing date by almost 1 year within the next 3 months. Based on recent approval trend, we believe that US CIS is trying to achieve the target results by approving a large number of very recently filed applications so that it will bring down the average cycle time because the average cycle time depends on the wait times of the approved cases in the last 1 year. This is a highly manipulative method chosen by US CIS to show the congress that the backlogs are reducing where as the applications pending for more than 2 years are not going to see much change in the pace of approvals.

3. RFE Delays
In most of the cases, US CIS is asking the applicants to submit certain documents before approving the case. We have recieved several complaints from our members who have submitted all the required information in a timely manner and still could not get any decision from US CIS for more than 3 months. We request that US CIS should adjudicate such cases within 30 days of receiving the response from the applicants.


We believe that US CIS, especially CSC with the unreasonable pilot program is accountable to the United States Congress and our only hopes of justice in this land of fairness, rest with a representative like you. We request you to ask US CIS to address the above concerns correctly. We will be looking forward to favorable action from US CIS. Please let us know if you have any questions.

Regards,
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We should also write to Director of CSC, Director of BCIS, Ombudsman, as well as many congressmen.

I think the the problem is CSC partially implement Ombudsman's recommendation. Ombudsman recommends to allow old applicant refile a copy w/o fee to take the benefit while CSC does prohbit the old applicants to do anything except waiting for die.
 
I have written to Ombudsman as of the following

CISO@DHS.gov


Repected Sir,

I heard your testimony on BCIS backlog reduction plan. CSC introduces a pilot program to reduct backlog for employment-based application, according to your recommendation. You have recommended to allow old concurrent applicant to refile without a fee, so that it will be fair to those who have been waited there for years. Unfortunately, CSC does prohibit the old applicants to even withdraw and refile to take the benefit of the pilot program. I have found that since the introduction of the pilot program, old concurrently I-140/485 have stopped to move, which mean CSC grab the resource to approve the new application in stead of the old ones. This is totally unfair to the many old applicants who have waited for years. On one forum, I have seen people who waited I-140 for more than a year got laid off, more than four years' waiting of the green card process (from Labor Certification) is finally turned out to be nothing.

I believe, your recommendation is a good one to reduce the backlog. However, CSC's partial implementation misses the fairness portion of your recommendation, which does not seem to be equal protection of all applicats. Since I-140 is not approved, they cannot use AC21 to change job, according to BCIS's AC21 memo (not regulation).

I hope you can help CSC to correct the problem as earlier as possible. America should be a place for fairness, democracy and tranparent.

Thanks for your attention.
 
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